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OK, I may have exegerated things a bit with the title, but I've been disappointed by the quality of the "blurbs" lately. I know there are multiple writers posting their opinions, but lately they have simply been off and wrong. I've see them appologize twice tonight for making bad predictions on players.

I'm a loyal reader and rely on Rotoworld for advice, but lately I'm finding myself disagreeing on half the stuff. Either I'm getting better at fantasy or the opinions from writers are just poor. I consider myself a big NBA and fantasy fan/follower, but Rotoworld's writers should have me beat in most cases.

A few things I'm specifically talking about:

Rotoworld: JJ Hickson should be owned in all leagues and formats.

- Wrong. He's been sub-par and Leonard is having a negative impact on his value. He's got double-double potential but there's a lack of defensive stats. He's worth holding on to in 12 team leagues but he's definitly not must own in less deep leagues.

Rotoworld: Kyle Korver is not a good pick-up.

- Wrong. He should be owned in all leagues. He gives great 3s, solid percentages, low TOs, and some steals. He's getting 30+ minutes a game for over 2 weeks now, and it's just now that Rotoworld has something positive to say about him. They suck Novak's wee-wee all day, but won't give Korver any props. The man has a solid role in ATL... certainly much more important than RW thinks. I picked him up a week ago despite RW's nonsense and I'm reaping the benefits. Almost anyone that gets 30+ minutes and starts is worthy of a spot on 10-12 league teams, especially someone who specializes in 3s without being a drain on your percentages.

Rotoworld: Aminu was dismissed last night and owner's were told to look other places.

- Wrong. They apologized today for it: "We shouldn't have told owners to look at other options since Aminu has provided late-round value even during his slump, and tonight's output shows exactly why. He's one of the few trusted players on the Hornets roster, and he should be owned in most formats." The kid has been amazing this year and they threw him under the bus for one bad game. I wonder what Noob wrote that. They should have the writer's name under each opinion piece.

Rotoworld: All over Stuckey as if he's ballin.

- Wrong. He's still inconsistent and bang average even when he performs. If we're gonna stash everyone hoping they bounce back, we'd all be in last place waiting.

Rotoworld: Jeremy Pargo situation

- They misread the situation and they apologized for it tonight. Donald Sloan didn't even get off the bench. Surprised they had no knowledge on this.

Rotoworld: Nene: "...and unless you need a big man taking a chance on him at this stage isn't worth the risk."

- Wrong. How the hell can you say Nene is not worth the risk? Rotoworld tells us all the damn time to stash s--- players like Nate Robinson, Jack, Drummond, etc... all guys who may NEVER see the starting line up this season, but a proven player like Nene doesn't derserve a stash? WTF?! Nene can easily do 15-8-1-1 if he's OK. I'm willing to take that risk and RW should be telling everyone to snatch him up in 12 team leagues. What's the worst that could happen; he goes down and misses time? Then just drop him. If he's OK (they've been super careful with him - he should be OK), then you can reap big benefits from a proven player. There is lots of upside here but RW ignores it all and doesn't see a point in picking him up.

Listen, I know fantasy is a bit of a guessing game but if they aren't sure of something, then they shouldn't throw out such factual sounding information. I would really like to see the names of the writers responsible for the opinion bits. Maybe we could rate them and give them a reputation so it shows next to their name.

I still love Rotoworld and all they do... great resource, but damn, there's room for some improvement here as well.

Just my two cents.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again: the news on this site is top notch and it comes in very quick. I can't count how many times I've snatched lottery ticket pick ups because of this site. However, the analysis is very, very spotty. Read the blurbs for the news and ignore the analysis because the blurbs are written by different people on any night and if you try to follow their advice you'll feel like it's a schizophrenic giving you advice.

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Especially the "hot free agent alert" when Varejao had 20 rebounds in his first game. The same can be said for football too, the columns and advice are useless.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again: the news on this site is top notch and it comes in very quick. I can't count how many times I've snatched lottery ticket pick ups because of this site. However, the analysis is very, very spotty. Read the blurbs for the news and ignore the analysis because the blurbs are written by different people on any night and if you try to follow their advice you'll feel like it's a schizophrenic giving you advice.

Well said. B)

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I have made many great moves by taking RWs advice and reading these forums. I have noticed the drop in fantasy advice from the blurbs lately but the feedback from the users on these forums is top notch and I find myself checking threads before the main screen blurbs these days.

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twitter has ruined everything for these sites. Nothing is "breaking" anymore. The lack of quality insight really doesnt give rotoworld an upperhand.

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twitter has ruined everything for these sites. Nothing is "breaking" anymore. The lack of quality insight really doesnt give rotoworld an upperhand.

I don't really use Twitter but I'd like to know what accounts you follow to get the news.

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I totally agree. I have found pointed out to myself many times recently not to listen to some stuff I had been reading, like one day H. Barnes is a must own player in all the leagues and then drop him for a FA next day. Sheesh.

Just ignore what they say even though it is hard to and just make your own decisions, although I sometimes hope they have more insight than me, but often just let you down.

Surprised on the no heads up on MWP at all and he was producing pretty soild all year, and then hes a not must own, but must start in all formats over night?>

TOo many recent examples of this.

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Well, I tend to apppreciate the Rotoworld blurbs for the instant news they bring. If viewers use the personal opinion notes attached to the news as the be-all-end-all guide to their strategies, then that is their problem. Take the advice with a grain of salt. Run your own teams off your knowledge and intuition based on your league's settings. The Rotoworld writers are not always going to be right with their personal viewpoints. Even the best fantasy basketball managers are probably wrong at least 30% of the time. Let's not forget that we all play different settings and league sizes as well, so what works in one league may not in another.

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Well, I tend to apppreciate the Rotoworld blurbs for the instant news they bring. If viewers use the personal opinion notes attached to the news as the be-all-end-all guide to their strategies, then that is their problem. Take the advice with a grain of salt. Run your own teams off your knowledge and intuition based on your league's settings. The Rotoworld writers are not always going to be right with their personal viewpoints. Even the best fantasy basketball managers are probably wrong at least 30% of the time. Let's not forget that we all play different settings and league sizes as well, so what works in one league may not in another.

I completely agree with you! It's just lately there has been a ton of finnicky stuff being thrown out there thats what really got this guy irked enough to post this. And I do not blame him as there has been much more than ususal, despite that the league has gotten off to a crazy start and I know this stuff can get really hectic.

But yeah, your post is spot on

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Yea I've also noticed that so many players are now "must-adds in almost every format". They love that term now. I agree with most of them but there are some I definitely don't.

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There are two parts to Rotoworld blurbs: the news part, and the "RW opinion" part underneath it. What I do is read the news part, close my eyes, scroll down to the next news item, repeat.

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I think they are trying to blurb more this year which unfortunately sacrifices quality for quantity. It's very evident this year that they have different people covering the same games. I think a better idea for RW is to assign writers to cover the same teams for the full year to provide consistency and better analysis.

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The inconsistencies have been pretty noticeable this year. There's an incredible amount of guys "only worth a look in the deepest of leagues" who suddenly in the next game are "must-owns in all formats".

I'm gonna have to echo what most others are saying; use the blurbs as up-to-the-minute updates, nothing more, nothing less. I think we're on our own now for advice

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I dropped Aminu but I needed a PG and PF/C desperately.

Some owner who adds him from the WW will be happy.

Oh well.

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The burbs isn't too bad as long as you don't take it as gospel. Most of us have played fantasy long enough that we don't need "expert" to tell us who is a must add and who isn't. The only issue I have is the bias towards certain teams. It's obvious the guys writing the burbs do not like Keith Smart and takes every opportunity to bash the guy. Even after beating the Lakers last night, they still take petty cheap shots at him.

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As someone who doesn't have years and years of experience, the bad advice is especially problematic. The biggest example for me this year is Isaiah Thomas. They were so rigid in their belief in this kid (and don't get me wrong, he's talented) that they became downright propagandists about him. There were a lot of indicators from the beat writers that Sacramento as a franchise was in love with Aaron Brooks, but they dismissed every account suggesting Brooks could start as foolish claptrap. Even as all the anecdotal evidence pointed to the strong possibility of a time share, they told everyone to ignore it, Isaiah will be just fine (with the occasional "we're midly concerned, but Isaiah should still be drafted super-high" caveat). So even though I thought about drafting Damian Lillard over Isaiah, I went with the authority that told me Isaiah would be terrific no matter what.

Short of it is, you have to trust your own judgment even if they're giving you the hard sell. Lesson learned. Still like the site and recaps and forums.

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This might sound ridiculous, but these blurbs would be a LOT better if the writers didn't play fantasy basketball. The big problem is that the writers are people just like you and me, and as a result carry a lot of the same biases and prejudices that we do. I can tell you that if I were writing blurbs, I would slag Eric Gordon because I drafted him last year and he burned me real bad. The same is true for these writers and guys like Andrew Bogut, who, if you believe the blurbs, has a hobby of running over people's grandmas and is also a white supremacist.

Analysis should be performed by people without a vested interest and/or personal history with the players being analyzed.

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They do this a lot with most sports, but basketball has been egregious this year. I wish they had to sign off on who writes each blurb to give some accountability. For those that do fantasy baseball, I need not tell you how they were just wrong about every closer situation at the beginning of last year.

Also, why does Steven Alexander write for rotoworld? Has he ever made good predictions? I follow him on Twitter and he's just the epitome of a horrible fantasy analyst who doesn't know what to do. All he does is talk about his teams and is incredibly reactionary. Remember when Anthony Randolph was his boy and he would reach for him in every mock that year?

He owned Carmello last year and I remember the tweet "I will never own Carmello again". I hate it when stupid people on this board say dumb generalities like that. Every player is worth owning at the right price and when that many people are frustrated with them, they generally become a bargain.

Hopefully he didnt pass on Carmello in too many leagues this year. Great advice dude. This is like the main fantasy hoops guy here too it seems.

I know I know... I don't have to listen to him. Believe me, I don't and haven't for a very long. I'm just utterly confused as to why any would.

Rotoworld is a great site, but could make some huge improvements and actually be good for fantasy enthusiasts.

Kudos for this thread.

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The burbs isn't too bad as long as you don't take it as gospel. Most of us have played fantasy long enough that we don't need "expert" to tell us who is a must add and who isn't. The only issue I have is the bias towards certain teams. It's obvious the guys writing the burbs do not like Keith Smart and takes every opportunity to bash the guy. Even after beating the Lakers last night, they still take petty cheap shots at him.

The Lakers were tired and stagnant last night. If that game was repeated 10 times, I really doubt the Kings would come out ahead more than twice. Marcus Thornton isn't going to carry the load night in and night out. Additionally, Keith Smart is starting Brooks over Thomas despite ample evidence last season that Isaiah can produce. This is just one of many reasons Smart is such an easy target for RW's writers.

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The forums help me more than the actual site.

These forums help me more than ANY actual site. I will echo the sentiment that the blurbs are not generally high quality. I read them because it gets my wheels churning as to how the news impacts how I react, but frequently I disagree and do as I think because I pay for my team not them. Making any move because RW (or any other site) told you to is bad policy. The forums tend to have some great guys as well as a big enough mix that the bias gets balanced out.

I've been playing for longer than I'd care to admit and I'd bet that a lot of people here have as well. Great opportunity for newer players to mix in and pick the minds of a lot of players rather than just one (blurbs). Not only that, but I feel as if some of the guys on the forums are better than some "experts." Give me a Code of Hammurabi, Rico381, or MarkDash (I'm missing a bunch of great guys) basketball post over any "expert" I read. Same goes with a large number of guys on our forums with other sports. Some of these guys are GOOD. They watch the games and run the numbers and have their own opinions.

The beauty of RW has always been that before the social media days you could come here and figure out what happened before it came out on the mainstream media sources. It's still true, but less of an advantage for those who can use twitter and beat writers well. May be embarrassing, but I lost a lot of good banter when the forums were down and really missed them. Makes me more thankful to have them!

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