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Drafting your favorite players?

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What is everyone's opnion on drafting your favorite players? Obviously if you roll with Lebron or Durant there really isn't an issue, but as for me, my favorite player is Deron Williams. During the draft, I could've picked up Westbrook (as my #1) overall, but I passed him up to draft D. Will (yes I even already knew about this ankle).

I'm not regretting it, but I was just wondering does/has anyone else favor(ed) their favorite player over what the next "best" draft pick is? Any advice/opinions to share about that?

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The only one I've regretted so far is Gortat, but I think that if you're deciding between on 2 or more playes players who you think will have similar numbers then go with the guy you like to watch more

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I'm fine with drafting players you like, but only when there is a choice between players close in value. Me I wouldn't have taken DWill over Westbrook as I don't think they're all that close, but then again neither are on my favorites list.

May as well enjoy following your favorites, but careful you don't overvalue them. You still want to win.

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Always. Everyone is like that. Everyone places a label onto someone's name. We're not machines that can calculate exact potentials of a player. During the draft, I suggested someone to draft Joakim and he simply told me, he does not like Joakim.

That's why it's such a huge advantage to have BBM's calculator. I place my values on every single player based on that calculator and I don't regret it at all.

The secret to having a good draft is to drop all your opinions about every single player and simply let a machine do every single calculation for you.

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Kobe is my favorite player but I haven't drafted him in about 3 yrs :P . 9/10 times I draft without bias and target the "best value" with my picks. As stated before, if one of my fav. players is on the board and the value is pretty close, then I would pick the player I like. I'm more likely to walk in a draft with a list of players that I don't want every year: Blake, Dwight, Beasley, Evans, etc.

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We tend to overrate or underrate players.

Machines do not. They use exact calculations giving each player a more precise value.

The main difference is that machines have no opinions. We do and, in some ways, they are flaws when it comes to drafting.

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Yea that's what I'm starting to come at, maybe next year's draft I'll try to differentiate between personal like and stats better.

That is some good advice, about the close value thing never really thought of that.

I guess it really does payoff to pay for some fantasy services. This being my first year doing anything fantasy related AT ALL, I came in thinking hey, Basketball is my favorite sport, I know a lot, I should do fine! I wonder, how many people actually signed up for Basketballmonster's membership? I tend to use the site A LOT but I only do the free things, I could end up using it for next year's draft.

Yea I had a couple of names I knew I wasn't going to draft, Blake Griffin and ANY Lakers players (I just really really do not like the Lakers lol).

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I don't draft my favorite players because for some reason, I've never had any favorite players. I do try to avoid getting players from my favorite team unless the difference in value becomes significant, because every missed shot and turnover makes me feel worse when I'm supposed to be enjoying the game.

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I only use the free services. I think it provides enough information.

Yeah me too, my problem is still discerning stats from "bigger" names, I guess that's the fun in fantasy right

That's me everytime I watch a Brooklyn game lol whenever D. Will makes the pass I want someone to shoot it straight away to get me an assist

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I think unless it is a total reach you should go for it. The point of the game is to have fun and i definitely enjoy having the players i like on my teams

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My #1 favorite player is Manu Ginobili with Andrei Kirilenko coming in a close second. I was able to get them in every auction draft I did and most snake drafts but I am kind of fortunate because they are not superstuds that go in the first 2 Rounds. I really had a dilemma in one of my snake drafts, my main one actually, where I was forced to choose between going with my gut and picking AK47 or going with my head and taking OJ Mayo. I made the right, more importantly unbiased, choice and took OJ Mayo but it wasn't easy at the time. I also had Manu targeted in RD 5/6 (I picked 3rd overall so I had close picks). Anthony Davis was still available in RD 5 somehow so I jumped, of course the very next pick was Manu to an owner who had a bunch of swingmen and no bigmen.

I think I have been playing for so long I just know that it is rarely worth it to reach for your favorite player. A lot of the time in snake it really only matters where my draft spot is. After I figure that out I know if I will get them or not. Auction is an entire different animal and I could see actually building your budget around your favorite players, but again my brain would overpower me to just take the best value as opposed to the best appreciated.

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My #1 favorite player is Manu Ginobili with Andrei Kirilenko coming in a close second. I was able to get them in every auction draft I did and most snake drafts but I am kind of fortunate because they are not superstuds that go in the first 2 Rounds. I really had a dilemma in one of my snake drafts, my main one actually, where I was forced to choose between going with my gut and picking AK47 or going with my head and taking OJ Mayo. I made the right, more importantly unbiased, choice and took OJ Mayo but it wasn't easy at the time. I also had Manu targeted in RD 5/6 (I picked 3rd overall so I had close picks). Anthony Davis was still available in RD 5 somehow so I jumped, of course the very next pick was Manu to an owner who had a bunch of swingmen and no bigmen.

I think I have been playing for so long I just know that it is rarely worth it to reach for your favorite player. A lot of the time in snake it really only matters where my draft spot is. After I figure that out I know if I will get them or not. Auction is an entire different animal and I could see actually building your budget around your favorite players, but again my brain would overpower me to just take the best value as opposed to the best appreciated.

After further review I screwed up some of the RDs but you get the point.

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My #1 favorite player is Manu Ginobili with Andrei Kirilenko coming in a close second. I was able to get them in every auction draft I did and most snake drafts but I am kind of fortunate because they are not superstuds that go in the first 2 Rounds. I really had a dilemma in one of my snake drafts, my main one actually, where I was forced to choose between going with my gut and picking AK47 or going with my head and taking OJ Mayo. I made the right, more importantly unbiased, choice and took OJ Mayo but it wasn't easy at the time. I also had Manu targeted in RD 5/6 (I picked 3rd overall so I had close picks). Anthony Davis was still available in RD 5 somehow so I jumped, of course the very next pick was Manu to an owner who had a bunch of swingmen and no bigmen.

I think I have been playing for so long I just know that it is rarely worth it to reach for your favorite player. A lot of the time in snake it really only matters where my draft spot is. After I figure that out I know if I will get them or not. Auction is an entire different animal and I could see actually building your budget around your favorite players, but again my brain would overpower me to just take the best value as opposed to the best appreciated.

After further review I screwed up some of the RDs but you get the point.

This is probably the piece of advice that I'm going to remember the most. Being a fan of a player, one can always come up with arguments on why he is the best a what he does and etc. but the stats are unbiased. Next time I'm gong to be look at my draft position and determine from there if I can reach for them or not.

Ah AK47 is one of the people I personally sought after in the draft, looking at the way he played during the Euros, I knew he was going to come back to the league and be a little more "special" then he's been lately. That trip back home really helped him out lol

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I always try to draft a player from the Pacers. I tend to have favorite teams with players that I like. I won't reach to get them but it factors into my draft strategy. I used to play fantasy for money and that was fine. Now, I prefer to play for fun. It helps me enjoy the game more. So, a miss here or there on a player isn't that big of a deal.

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I always try to draft a player from the Pacers. I tend to have favorite teams with players that I like. I won't reach to get them but it factors into my draft strategy. I used to play fantasy for money and that was fine. Now, I prefer to play for fun. It helps me enjoy the game more. So, a miss here or there on a player isn't that big of a deal.

That's how I felt about the Heat and OKC (although I didn't get either lol), can't go wrong with owning a player from both conference's champion teams. I have thought about playing fantasy for money, after I get a little more experience, but I didn't want to give up the fun for the stress of money.

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Damian Lillard has been in all my leagues and I always choose him at the 5th or 6th round regardless of who's still up there. He's my favorite player atm. :)

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Steph Curry is my favorite player, since I live in the bay, unfortunately same applies to everyone else in my league lol. Curry was gone late 1st, and if there was a redraft, I'm sure he would of went even higher. One guy in my league drafted Monta just to trade him for more value and it actually worked. Even though he playing for Bucks now.

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As a long time Knicks fan, I haven't owned a Knick in the past 3 years, at all. My favorite player is Gerald Wallace and I haven't owned him period. I think its to do with because I spend a lot of time watching/analyzing/admiring these two things I understand their value a little better than others; so I know their weaknesses and the limits to what they can produce. Whereas for players I don't usually care for they have more of an unknown edge to them.

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I'm curious, for the people who said that AK47, Manu, Gerald Wallace, and such. What makes them your favorite players? I'm asking because I would normally expect the Kobe, Lebron, Rose, answers, so ya surprised me there.

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As long as you're not ridiculously overdrafting, it's fine. I've managed to own Rondo multiple years now, but sometimes it requires me drafting him as soon as early-2nd.

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I'm curious, for the people who said that AK47, Manu, Gerald Wallace, and such. What makes them your favorite players? I'm asking because I would normally expect the Kobe, Lebron, Rose, answers, so ya surprised me there.

Thats a surprsingly hard question to answer but I will try. Manu and AK47 are both versatile and understated. Manu is fearless and regularly comes through in the big moments. AK47 is an all around player and glue guy. He is probably the best glue guy and also dominates defensively. I just remember the first time I saw Manu play and I asked my friends "Who was that guy" and of course nobody really knew. I had that moment with Antoine Walker too.

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I'm fine with drafting players you like, but only when there is a choice between players close in value. Me I wouldn't have taken DWill over Westbrook as I don't think they're all that close, but then again neither are on my favorites list.

May as well enjoy following your favorites, but careful you don't overvalue them. You still want to win.

I agree with this, and it really only works in rounds 1-2 where value is hard to discern. I used to take Dirk Nowitzki a few spots above his late 1st round rank but it never hurt my team since 1st & 2nd round rankings are usually separated by such a minute difference it doesn't matter. For the same reason I never drafted Kobe ever haha, didn't want to have to root for a pure evil sociopath ;)

Always. Everyone is like that. Everyone places a label onto someone's name. We're not machines that can calculate exact potentials of a player. During the draft, I suggested someone to draft Joakim and he simply told me, he does not like Joakim.

That's why it's such a huge advantage to have BBM's calculator. I place my values on every single player based on that calculator and I don't regret it at all.

The secret to having a good draft is to drop all your opinions about every single player and simply let a machine do every single calculation for you.

We tend to overrate or underrate players.

Machines do not. They use exact calculations giving each player a more precise value.

The main difference is that machines have no opinions. We do and, in some ways, they are flaws when it comes to drafting.

I see where you guys are coming from with this, but I totally disagree. In fact I would say if you went 100% by stats (not including the BBM projections that are made by another human, but season to season stats) you would never win a league. Instead you would miss out on pretty much every sleeper, which are in essence, players that defy their logical statistical progressions based on a new favorable situation or accelerated growth between seasons. I do agree we over/under value guys based on opinion (see: me not drafting Kobe lol) but at the same time going with your gut to make educated statistical projections on your own (for which knowing the player's situation, history, work ethic, personality, trades, projected new team role, etc) is absolutely essential. Playing fantasy basketball without any human input would get you no where.

I'm curious, for the people who said that AK47, Manu, Gerald Wallace, and such. What makes them your favorite players? I'm asking because I would normally expect the Kobe, Lebron, Rose, answers, so ya surprised me there.

As another guy who's always been more of a fan of the AK/Wallace/Manus (although my all time fav is Dirk) over the Lebron/Kobes is that I know alot of people feel the same way, is that we like to root for guys who have qualities we respect. The first group are a bunch of team players who will do anything it takes to win, be it play elite defense, play make, score, spot shoot 3's, or sit on the bench w/o complaint. Also, they have a little bit of the underdog thing going, as none of them came into the league anointed as the next big thing - Manu was a mid 2nd round overseas pick, AK was a little known rail thin Russian who went to a small US city in Utah to play D for an aging Stockton & Malone, and Wallace was a late 1st rounder who did very little for the 1st half of his NBA career, yet all became all-stars. Lebron & Kobe came into the league hyped, are the scorers, and while they could be ok people, they come off like total arrogant d-bags at times.

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Always. Everyone is like that. Everyone places a label onto someone's name. We're not machines that can calculate exact potentials of a player. During the draft, I suggested someone to draft Joakim and he simply told me, he does not like Joakim.

That's why it's such a huge advantage to have BBM's calculator. I place my values on every single player based on that calculator and I don't regret it at all.

The secret to having a good draft is to drop all your opinions about every single player and simply let a machine do every single calculation for you.

We tend to overrate or underrate players.

Machines do not. They use exact calculations giving each player a more precise value.

The main difference is that machines have no opinions. We do and, in some ways, they are flaws when it comes to drafting.

I see where you guys are coming from with this, but I totally disagree. In fact I would say if you went 100% by stats (not including the BBM projections that are made by another human, but season to season stats) you would never win a league. Instead you would miss out on pretty much every sleeper, which are in essence, players that defy their logical statistical progressions based on a new favorable situation or accelerated growth between seasons. I do agree we over/under value guys based on opinion (see: me not drafting Kobe lol) but at the same time going with your gut to make educated statistical projections on your own (for which knowing the player's situation, history, work ethic, personality, trades, projected new team role, etc) is absolutely essential. Playing fantasy basketball without any human input would get you no where.

That's true. You still have to have some knowledge when drafting. However, in most cases, I wouldn't recommend having your opinions override the calculator's results. For example, the calculator ranked Jason Kidd & Jeremy Lin very high, but I avoided all of them during draft day. Use your knowledge, do not use your feelings towards a player. I mean, like what my friend said, he just doesn't like Noah. Noah is about in the same situation, except that Rose is injured. He's always been a really good all around player. If you're aiming to win, it just doesn't make sense not to draft someone only because you don't like them.

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I'm fine with drafting players you like, but only when there is a choice between players close in value. Me I wouldn't have taken DWill over Westbrook as I don't think they're all that close, but then again neither are on my favorites list.

May as well enjoy following your favorites, but careful you don't overvalue them. You still want to win.

I agree with this, and it really only works in rounds 1-2 where value is hard to discern. I used to take Dirk Nowitzki a few spots above his late 1st round rank but it never hurt my team since 1st & 2nd round rankings are usually separated by such a minute difference it doesn't matter. For the same reason I never drafted Kobe ever haha, didn't want to have to root for a pure evil sociopath ;)

Always. Everyone is like that. Everyone places a label onto someone's name. We're not machines that can calculate exact potentials of a player. During the draft, I suggested someone to draft Joakim and he simply told me, he does not like Joakim.

That's why it's such a huge advantage to have BBM's calculator. I place my values on every single player based on that calculator and I don't regret it at all.

The secret to having a good draft is to drop all your opinions about every single player and simply let a machine do every single calculation for you.

We tend to overrate or underrate players.

Machines do not. They use exact calculations giving each player a more precise value.

The main difference is that machines have no opinions. We do and, in some ways, they are flaws when it comes to drafting.

I see where you guys are coming from with this, but I totally disagree. In fact I would say if you went 100% by stats (not including the BBM projections that are made by another human, but season to season stats) you would never win a league. Instead you would miss out on pretty much every sleeper, which are in essence, players that defy their logical statistical progressions based on a new favorable situation or accelerated growth between seasons. I do agree we over/under value guys based on opinion (see: me not drafting Kobe lol) but at the same time going with your gut to make educated statistical projections on your own (for which knowing the player's situation, history, work ethic, personality, trades, projected new team role, etc) is absolutely essential. Playing fantasy basketball without any human input would get you no where.

I'm curious, for the people who said that AK47, Manu, Gerald Wallace, and such. What makes them your favorite players? I'm asking because I would normally expect the Kobe, Lebron, Rose, answers, so ya surprised me there.

As another guy who's always been more of a fan of the AK/Wallace/Manus (although my all time fav is Dirk) over the Lebron/Kobes is that I know alot of people feel the same way, is that we like to root for guys who have qualities we respect. The first group are a bunch of team players who will do anything it takes to win, be it play elite defense, play make, score, spot shoot 3's, or sit on the bench w/o complaint. Also, they have a little bit of the underdog thing going, as none of them came into the league anointed as the next big thing - Manu was a mid 2nd round overseas pick, AK was a little known rail thin Russian who went to a small US city in Utah to play D for an aging Stockton & Malone, and Wallace was a late 1st rounder who did very little for the 1st half of his NBA career, yet all became all-stars. Lebron & Kobe came into the league hyped, are the scorers, and while they could be ok people, they come off like total arrogant d-bags at times.

I find it very difficult to NOT like your posts lol

I was actually thinking about the whole Machine vs Human thing when it comes to drafting and team management. You hit it right dead on, the stats being churned out by machines is a great tool to help you make decisions, but ultimately it comes down to what we think. Only we can measure the heart and determination a certain player has, whether he/she will or will not take that step forward, and so on.

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