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Brett Anderson 2013 Outlook

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He will be a top 15 pitcher this year. And I don't think the hype will be there either. Already I've heard some industry people knocking him down b/c he's an injury concern.

I feel the opposite. I look at a guy who pitched a lot of innings at a young age and was still dominant through stretches while dealing with lingering elbow pain. Now he got the TJ out of the way, 2 years removed, and -- yeah, he pulled an oblique at the end of the regular season, but who isn't pulling obliques these days? He cam back in the playoffs and shut out the Tigers for 6 innings in an elimination game.

this guy is legit, and i really hope people still go on considering him injury prone. In this recent CBS 12 team analysts' mock that came out, he went in the last pick of the 13th round. are you kidding me?!?!? Jose Altuve, Ryan Dempster, AJ Burnett all picked more than 14 picks earlier. Jon Niese went 34 picks ahead of Anderson ... :P

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Anderson is still an injury risk. He has really struggled to stay healthy throughout his short career.

With that being said, he is being undervalued. Definitely has an ace ceiling if he can stay healthy. The fact that he is going so late makes him a great value pick.

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meh lots of guys get TJ. I don't think that makes him an injury risk.

he is a stud and plays in a great park. GB pitcher who controls walks and gets decent Ks. he goes deep into games and that helps in the W column. I have full confidence in him. I agree with OP, he's in that category of guys who could establish themselves as aces.

it says a lot that the A's, who need bats, wouldn't trade him for Wil Myers.

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The TJ doesn't make him an injury risk, all the injuries he has had do.

AND I STILL LOVE HIM!!!

He is just so damn good when he is on the mound he is well worth targeting almost regardless of draft spot. Obviously I wouldn't take him in RD 3 but if his draft spot is cheap then reaching for him won;t be a problem at all.

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I always liked him but you have to call him an injury risk. Wish his K/9 was a little better also. But still a very good pitcher.

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What's the O/U on his GS? 10? 20? Would anybody be surprised if he made less than 10 starts?

That's the problem.

If the guy actually is healthy and starts >20 games then he's a decent value pick. He hasn't made that many starts since 2009. Also, he may have negative value in K's which makes him a 2-3 category guy in 5x5.

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What's the O/U on his GS? 10? 20? Would anybody be surprised if he made less than 10 starts?

That's the problem.

If the guy actually is healthy and starts >20 games then he's a decent value pick. He hasn't made that many starts since 2009. Also, he may have negative value in K's which makes him a 2-3 category guy in 5x5.

I didn't realize how poor his Ks were. in a cap IP league he definitely seems like a candidate to be over-drafted.

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What's the O/U on his GS? 10? 20? Would anybody be surprised if he made less than 10 starts?

That's the problem.

If the guy actually is healthy and starts >20 games then he's a decent value pick. He hasn't made that many starts since 2009. Also, he may have negative value in K's which makes him a 2-3 category guy in 5x5.

I'd be shocked. I'm a homer but see no reason to think he's going to be hurt coming into the year or is any more injury prone than many pitchers. He had tj surgery. Many guys do. He came back eventually and was dominant until straining an oblique. As long as he's still taking fitness seriously, I imagine he'll be fine.

Personally, I'll likely be avoiding him this year. But that's only because I'm a sucker for high k/9 rates. You'll see me destroying my WHIP as I climb aboard the Scherzers of the world. But if you do draft Anderson he should be able to help your ratios. And if Oakland stays as hot as they were last year, he'll be a solid source of wins as well.

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I was totally shocked to hear the A's passed up trading him for Myers given his health issues. With the vast depth the A's have on the farm for SP's, the potential impact bat in Myers would have been worth the risk to me. Straily is ready to step in now, with Parker, Milone and AJ Griffin already having proven themselves as good starters, and Gray in Sacramento developing along with Peacock, that potential impact bat is much more needed than Andersons arm, IMHO.

Perhaps the A's are going to hope he proves himself finally healthy, and perhaps trade him at the deadline, but at the young age of 24, they'll have a solid core of young arms for many years if he proves healthy and they decide to keep him.

Having watched his rehab starts, I'm not totally sold that he's who they think he was, but then again, I don't get paid by the A's to evaluate their talent,....

With their rotation and BP, 2 impact bats might help them keep pace with the Angels and Rangers, and I truly feel Myers could have been one of those bats, but alas, as of now, we'll never know about him.

I hope Brett proves us doubters wrong, Time will tell, but as A's fans, the outlook is bright no matter how you look at it.

Personally, I won't be drafting him unless I can grab him very late as an end of rotation filler. But I will root for his return and success.

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As a side note, Michael Choice might be one of the reasons the A's decided to keep Anderson rather than trade him for Myers, he's a promising prospect. The recently drafted Russell is also projected to play an OF spot rather than stick at 3b.

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As a side note, Michael Choice might be one of the reasons the A's decided to keep Anderson rather than trade him for Myers, he's a promising prospect. As is the recently drafted Russell, he's also projected to play an OF spot rather than stick at ss/3b.

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He's worth a late rounder imo

Won't help much with Ks but he'll get you Ws and good Ratios

Not to mention he plays in OAK

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Really like Anderson this season. If he can stay in the lineup he will be a stud. What do you all think?

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He will be a top 15 pitcher this year. And I don't think the hype will be there either. Already I've heard some industry people knocking him down b/c he's an injury concern.

I feel the opposite. I look at a guy who pitched a lot of innings at a young age and was still dominant through stretches while dealing with lingering elbow pain. Now he got the TJ out of the way, 2 years removed, and -- yeah, he pulled an oblique at the end of the regular season, but who isn't pulling obliques these days? He cam back in the playoffs and shut out the Tigers for 6 innings in an elimination game.

this guy is legit, and i really hope people still go on considering him injury prone. In this recent CBS 12 team analysts' mock that came out, he went in the last pick of the 13th round. are you kidding me?!?!? Jose Altuve, Ryan Dempster, AJ Burnett all picked more than 14 picks earlier. Jon Niese went 34 picks ahead of Anderson ... :P

a top 15 pitcher? seriously?

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If he stays healthy, he's a top 15 pitcher. I agree with that. Once you have a solid base(SP1-4 filled in) then i would be looking to add in Anderson.

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If you can pick up BA in a later round, go for it. Low risk/high reward.

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He will be a top 15 pitcher this year. And I don't think the hype will be there either. Already I've heard some industry people knocking him down b/c he's an injury concern.

I feel the opposite. I look at a guy who pitched a lot of innings at a young age and was still dominant through stretches while dealing with lingering elbow pain. Now he got the TJ out of the way, 2 years removed, and -- yeah, he pulled an oblique at the end of the regular season, but who isn't pulling obliques these days? He cam back in the playoffs and shut out the Tigers for 6 innings in an elimination game.

this guy is legit, and i really hope people still go on considering him injury prone. In this recent CBS 12 team analysts' mock that came out, he went in the last pick of the 13th round. are you kidding me?!?!? Jose Altuve, Ryan Dempster, AJ Burnett all picked more than 14 picks earlier. Jon Niese went 34 picks ahead of Anderson ... :P

a top 15 pitcher? seriously?

I wouldn't count it out. He has a great park behind him, and also gets to face the Mariners and Astros in that division.

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He will be a top 15 pitcher this year. And I don't think the hype will be there either. Already I've heard some industry people knocking him down b/c he's an injury concern.

I feel the opposite. I look at a guy who pitched a lot of innings at a young age and was still dominant through stretches while dealing with lingering elbow pain. Now he got the TJ out of the way, 2 years removed, and -- yeah, he pulled an oblique at the end of the regular season, but who isn't pulling obliques these days? He cam back in the playoffs and shut out the Tigers for 6 innings in an elimination game.

this guy is legit, and i really hope people still go on considering him injury prone. In this recent CBS 12 team analysts' mock that came out, he went in the last pick of the 13th round. are you kidding me?!?!? Jose Altuve, Ryan Dempster, AJ Burnett all picked more than 14 picks earlier. Jon Niese went 34 picks ahead of Anderson ... :P

a top 15 pitcher? seriously?

I wouldn't count it out. He has a great park behind him, and also gets to face the Mariners and Astros in that division.

If he's healthy he's Jordan Zimmermann. Which isn't bad.

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I am going to draft this guy and if he stays healthy and isnt top 25 and I coming back and letting you have it. how can someone with such a low k rate be top 15.

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I like Brett Anderson for this year, obvious if you look at my team below. While the low strikeout rate is a concern, he posted his strongest swinging strike rate last year (small sample, I know). I also believe that there is still potential for him to increase it the further he gets from Tommy John as well. But here's what we know, he's a groundball heavy pitcher that pitches in a big park. He has showed very good skills when he gets on the mound and can provide great value for where he is going in drafts and his price tag in auctions.

But the big negative on him is the injuries. I am optimistic that he will make 30 starts this year, maybe give and take a few either way. But in the past, most of the time he missed due to injuries, were related to his elbow. But with Tommy John he is coming back stronger. It is also said that the replacement ligments last on average 400 innings after replacement.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=ANDERSON19880201A

Check out his transactions report for injury details.

I think that Anderson will be top 30 right now, if healthy, with no improvements on what he is. But if he can match his 2009 strikeout rate with the other skills displayed last season...he could easily be top 15.

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I am going to draft this guy and if he stays healthy and isnt top 25 and I coming back and letting you have it. how can someone with such a low k rate be top 15.

If you really think he is trash, then don't draft him.

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I am going to draft this guy and if he stays healthy and isnt top 25 and I coming back and letting you have it. how can someone with such a low k rate be top 15.

If you really think he is trash, then don't draft him.

didnt say he was trash. but didnt think he was quite as good.

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I like Brett Anderson for this year, obvious if you look at my team below. While the low strikeout rate is a concern, he posted his strongest swinging strike rate last year (small sample, I know). I also believe that there is still potential for him to increase it the further he gets from Tommy John as well. But here's what we know, he's a groundball heavy pitcher that pitches in a big park. He has showed very good skills when he gets on the mound and can provide great value for where he is going in drafts and his price tag in auctions.

But the big negative on him is the injuries. I am optimistic that he will make 30 starts this year, maybe give and take a few either way. But in the past, most of the time he missed due to injuries, were related to his elbow. But with Tommy John he is coming back stronger. It is also said that the replacement ligments last on average 400 innings after replacement.

http://www.baseballp...DERSON19880201A

Check out his transactions report for injury details.

I think that Anderson will be top 30 right now, if healthy, with no improvements on what he is. But if he can match his 2009 strikeout rate with the other skills displayed last season...he could easily be top 15.

Good post - even better avatar! I'm a huge Bungle fan.

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If he stays healthy, he's a top 15 pitcher. I agree with that. Once you have a solid base(SP1-4 filled in) then i would be looking to add in Anderson.

If you're drafting Anderson as your 5th best SP, you're drafting too many pitchers.

Let's keep this thread quiet til after the season starts, shall we?

Why?

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