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Jonathon Niese 2013 Outlook

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What strikes me uncanny about Niese is how similar his minor league and major league career stats look this early into his career.

Minor League Career: 3.73 ERA, 1.35 WHIP, 8.16 K/9.

Major League Career: 4.06 ERA, 1.36 WHIP, 7.54 K/9.

He had a very nice breakout at 25 last year posting his best ERA and WHIP at the major league level and doing this through a full season nonetheless.

I'm looking forward to good improvement in 2013.

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I'm a buyer. Niese is one of those 'sneaky value' type arms = solid GB%, decent K rates, generally solid ERA, calls MetCo his home. Love me some Niese.

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The days of being able to draft guys like Niese ( ok numbers, but great metrics) in the later rounds are long gone.

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Not much chatter about this guy. Put up solid numbers last year and he can be had for a relatively cheap price this year. Plus, just got named Mets' Opening Day starter. Could take that next step this year, though he doesn't K very many.

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I like him this year. I got him in round 15 in my mock draft tonight and would be thrilled to get that in actuality.

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He's very 'meh'. Not worth it. You could piece together his stat line from guys on the waiver wire.

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He's very 'meh'. Not worth it. You could piece together his stat line from guys on the waiver wire.

In what kind of league are you in cause in the leagues that I'm in it's pretty hard to find guys on the waiver wire who had a 3.40 ERA and 1.17 WHIP last season. All that's left there on waiver wires are the Barry Zito's and Gavin Floyd's.

2-start week vs the Padres and Mighty Marlins. I'm liking me some Niese this week.

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He's very 'meh'. Not worth it. You could piece together his stat line from guys on the waiver wire.

completely disagree. he is not waiver fodder. He should be owned in all respectable leagues. he's a very solid producer, not going to win a cy young or anything but hes a nice part of your staff.

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I think he means you can get those numbers from just streaming the right matchups instead of one particular guy off the wire. While it's arguable, I'd rather have a reliable guy like Niese who I can trust instead of gambling with a bunch of random scrubs.

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Posted · Hidden by The Harsh, March 30, 2013 - No reason given · Report post

He's very 'meh'. Not worth it. You could piece together his stat line from guys on the waiver wire.

LOL. I stopped playing in 10 team leagues because they weren't very fun a long time ago.

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His K% has been steadily under 20% every year of his career. That's why he's 'meh'

The only pitching category you use is Ks?

Anyway...the fact of the matter is he gets decent Ks, and provides a good ERA and WHIP. He's not a super stud, but he is a very good #3 for fantasy purposes. He's not really going to hurt you anywhere except perhaps in Wins, which are nearly impossible to predict anyway.

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Not sure why you guys are all of a sudden gaga over Niese's ERA and WHIP. The guy had the exact same peripheral stats last year that he did the previous two years when his whip was over 1.40. Last year the BABIP dropped 60 points. Thats all that changed.

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Not sure why you guys are all of a sudden gaga over Niese's ERA and WHIP. The guy had the exact same peripheral stats last year that he did the previous two years when his whip was over 1.40. Last year the BABIP dropped 60 points. Thats all that changed.

I guess it didn't help him that his LOB% wasn't 67% like in 2011. One of the main reasons he had a 4.40 ERA despite having a 3.36 FIP and 3.28 xFIP....

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Not sure why you guys are all of a sudden gaga over Niese's ERA and WHIP. The guy had the exact same peripheral stats last year that he did the previous two years when his whip was over 1.40. Last year the BABIP dropped 60 points. Thats all that changed.

Exact same peripherals? Really?

I guess it didn't help him that his LOB% wasn't 67% like in 2011. One of the main reasons he had a 4.40 ERA despite having a 3.36 FIP and 3.28 xFIP....

LOB% is not a peripheral statistic.

His SwStrk% was at 8% in each of the last three years. FStrike% at 60%. K% at 19% and BB% between 6%-7%.

I used to like him, but there's been no growth.

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Solid back end starter, I was high on him last season and his bad luck reversed putting up a nice year. I don't think there is much room for growth, but he could put up a similar season to 2012. I do believe Andre is right, in standard sized leagues (12 teams, 7-9 pitching slots-1250-1400 IP) you could just stream matchups and get similar results. I've avoided guys like Niese because in the leagues I play in he'll likely end up on waivers at some point. Its not for everyone though, and some prefer the solid stable skills that Niese offers, which is a solid fantasy #4/5

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Here's a nifty stat. Niese has pitched at least 6 innings in his last 22 starts. Longest streak in the majors.

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Another typical Niese start today:

Niese scattered eight hits (all singles) and two walks while striking out five. The 26-year-old left-hander has now thrown six innings or more in 22 straight starts, the longest such streak in the majors. He's a must-start in all formats.

In QS leagues, this guy is money in the bank.

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Didn't have a good WHIP today but about 3-4 of the hits were cheap/jam shots. He didn't really get hit hard out there

sucks that they blew the lead in the 7th, only to then score about 4 runs in the bottom half, leaving him with the ND

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Posted · Hidden by The Harsh, April 12, 2013 - No reason given · Report post

Dickey just got dropped in my league. Should I drop Niese, Buchholz or Iwakuma for him?

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Posted · Hidden by The Harsh, April 12, 2013 - No reason given · Report post

Dickey just got dropped in my league. Should I drop Niese, Buchholz or Iwakuma for him?

I would drop Bucholz. Though close with him and Iwakuma.

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There's several inches of snow in Minnesota right now and is going to be right around freezing when the game starts. Does anybody know if the game is likely going to get cancelled and if not how this would affect him?

Was planning to start him, but now I'm very unsure.

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