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Julio Teheran 2013 Outlook

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Well, he is certainly making a case for the Braves #5 spot. In his first 3 Spring starts in 2013, Teheran has allowed 2 runs on 4 hits with 2 BB & 14 K in 9 IP. This includes a strong 4 inning performance tonight against the Tigers (a lineup that was at full capacity minus Cabrera).

He has been a long-hyped prospect who is coming off a bumpy 2012 season, but regained form at the end of the season and with a strong Winter League performance. He has carried that confidence into 2013 spring training and seems to have the support of management to get the fifth spot. He certainly doesn't have anything left to prove in 2013.

Seems like he could have some real value in deeper leagues or NL-Only leagues. What do people think about him?

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Well, he is certainly making a case for the Braves #5 spot. In his first 3 Spring starts in 2013, Teheran has allowed 2 runs on 4 hits with 2 BB & 14 K in 9 IP. This includes a strong 4 inning performance tonight against the Tigers (a lineup that was at full capacity minus Cabrera).

He has been a long-hyped prospect who is coming off a bumpy 2012 season, but regained form at the end of the season and with a strong Winter League performance. He has carried that confidence into 2013 spring training and seems to have the support of management to get the fifth spot. He certainly doesn't have anything left to prove in 2013.

Seems like he could have some real value in deeper leagues or NL-Only leagues. What do people think about him?

This is a guy I like but am keeping quiet about. I'd guess he's going undrafted as of right now.

I heard the reason he struggled was due to messing with his delivery and the recent success is due to him switching back to the delivery he is comfortable with. Whatever the reason, he will be my last pick.

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If Teheran wins the 5th spot in the big league rotation, what kind of numbers would you expect with 30+ starts? I've been very high on him since 2010 until last year. I'm really considering him with my last pick if he cracks the rotation.

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If Teheran wins the 5th spot in the big league rotation, what kind of numbers would you expect with 30+ starts? I've been very high on him since 2010 until last year. I'm really considering him with my last pick if he cracks the rotation.

I dont really know where to start projecting him yet, but I expect him to win that job and I think he will do really well. i will be targeting him in all leagues.

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i saw him pitch last spring and his fastball was straighht and flat. in the recent highlight vid on mlb i see some nice breaking stuff, and a fastball with some tailing action at 92 mph. there's an 89mph swing and miss pitch in the dirt that might be a 2 seamer or a change, not sure. i am intrigued and would like to see him pitch more this spring.

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i saw him pitch last spring and his fastball was straighht and flat. in the recent highlight vid on mlb i see some nice breaking stuff, and a fastball with some tailing action at 92 mph. there's an 89mph swing and miss pitch in the dirt that might be a 2 seamer or a change, not sure. i am intrigued and would like to see him pitch more this spring.

The 92 FB you saw was his 2 seamer. His 4 seamer reaches the mid 90s, but as you saw last year, it's straight and was getting crushed.

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The Braves essentially cut a year of his development by trying to mess with his mechanics. There was speculation they were concerned about future health issues, though from what I've seen from scouts, his velocity comes easily and his arm action doesn't portend future injury.

Keith Law had a piece up about him earlier this week on ESPN, which was positive as well.

Hopefully he can fly under the radar for another few weeks so I can snatch him up. This guy was one of the best pitching prospects in baseball a few years ago...

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5 hitless innings (2 BBs) with 6 Ks today.

Welcome to the team, Julio.

i sure hope he doesn't do that again before the season starts, or more importantly my auction happens.

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Can this guy stay in the rotation once Beachy is healthy? Who would he boot, Maholm or Minor?

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The Braves essentially cut a year of his development by trying to mess with his mechanics. There was speculation they were concerned about future health issues, though from what I've seen from scouts, his velocity comes easily and his arm action doesn't portend future injury.

Keith Law had a piece up about him earlier this week on ESPN, which was positive as well.

Hopefully he can fly under the radar for another few weeks so I can snatch him up. This guy was one of the best pitching prospects in baseball a few years ago...

His arm action has nothing to do with the injury concern. It's the way he lands his leg.

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The Braves essentially cut a year of his development by trying to mess with his mechanics. There was speculation they were concerned about future health issues, though from what I've seen from scouts, his velocity comes easily and his arm action doesn't portend future injury.

Keith Law had a piece up about him earlier this week on ESPN, which was positive as well.

Hopefully he can fly under the radar for another few weeks so I can snatch him up. This guy was one of the best pitching prospects in baseball a few years ago...

His arm action has nothing to do with the injury concern. It's the way he lands his leg.

That may be part of it. From what I had read, extensively as a Braves fan, they were concerned his mechanics would lead to future arm trouble, not leg issues.

I honestly don't remember the speifics, though. You may be right. But the concerns were related to arm issues.

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This was from the Baseball America prospect handbook on Teheran in 2012:

Teheran has an electric arm, but his delivery had some violence that the Braves wanted to iron out in order to reduce his risk of injury. In 2012, they decided to reduce the bend on his back leg during his windup. He had been turning and coiling his body to generate more momentum toward the plate, placing additional strain on his right knee and elbow. Atlanta worked with Teheran on keeping his back leg straighter in order to create a better center of balance, particularly in his core.

So we're both right - knee strain and elbow strain with the "violent" delivery. But I've seen quotes from other evaluators in chats and posts about Teheran saying they don't feel the violence is that much of a concern. That his velocity comes easily, and he's got sound arm action.

Either way - Braves quit screwing with him, and he's back to pitching like the top-5 prospect he used to be.

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Rotoworld daily blurb:

http://www.rotoworld...o-turning-heads

It mentions that he has developed a 2-seam fastball. I haven't heard this anywhere else. If it's true, than that could be a reason for his spring success and gives me more confidence in drafting him.

AJC mentioned it here: http://m.ajc.com/news/sports/baseball/braves-teheran-shows-impressive-sinker/nWkms/

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I read somewhere that Teheran's K rate has declined the past 3 years. What do you guys think is the reason for this? How should it affect projections for this upcoming year?

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I read somewhere that Teheran's K rate has declined the past 3 years. What do you guys think is the reason for this? How should it affect projections for this upcoming year?

Read about 3 posts up...

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Beachy's absence has opened the door for right-hander Julio Teheran to move into the likely role of fifth starter. Teheran made his fifth Grapefruit League start Sunday against the Mets. Teheran entered Sunday having allowed only two runs and four hits in 14 innings of work.

"He's pitched great," Gonzalez said. "If we gotta break camp tomorrow, he's our fifth (starter). He's pitched that well. We're going to give him an opportunity, I think, barring something crazy."

it's looking like a near certainty that he's their 5th starter. had another nice game today... what's the appropriate round to select him in drafts?

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130317&content_id=42873150&notebook_id=42873160&vkey=notebook_atl&c_id=atl

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Yep. The excellent spring continues. Just 3 hits and 2 BBs today through 6IP, to go with 7Ks. He'll be getting two more starts this spring, but I think he is as close to being a lock for the 5th spot as he could be at this point.

Folks really are raving about his performance this spring. Sounds like he is returning to the pre-2012 board that led him to be one of the top prospects in the entire MiLB. If BA, Law, etc. put out there lists again at the end of the month, I would bet Teheran is a top-25 type guy now. He can be a #2 or #3 starter and the Braves need one of those.

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Can this guy stay in the rotation once Beachy is healthy? Who would he boot, Maholm or Minor?

Did you see Minor's numbers from the second half of last season? Nothing is guaranteed in baseball but barring an alien abduction I don't see Minor leaving that rotation any time soon.

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Can this guy stay in the rotation once Beachy is healthy? Who would he boot, Maholm or Minor?

Did you see Minor's numbers from the second half of last season? Nothing is guaranteed in baseball but barring an alien abduction I don't see Minor leaving that rotation any time soon.

Yeah, Teheran will have to be lights-out (which is certianly possible) to stay in the rotation when Beachy returns. Though, as we know, these things have a tendency to work themselves out, whether it be due to injury, poor performance or trade.

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If you think Teheran is legit, and he certainly looked like a mean mo-fo today, then you don't worry about Beachy in the least. He had his TJ surgery in late June last year. It takes guys a year. Late June is a long way away.

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If you think Teheran is legit, and he certainly looked like a mean mo-fo today, then you don't worry about Beachy in the least. He had his TJ surgery in late June last year. It takes guys a year. Late June is a long way away.

If Teheran performs don't think he has anything to worry about. If he's doing well and he's still on the bubble that means Atlanta's staff is going gangbusters and the team is likely on top. Why would ATL force the Beachy issue at that point? Especially after the success they had with bringing Medlen back initially in the bullpen.

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All the Braves starters look interesting for fantasy, kind of frustrating determining who I like most relative to draft value.

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