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Demaryius Thomas 2013 Season Outlook

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So Peyton has returned to form. 94/1434/10. I think this guys floor will be about what he had last year with the possibility for more TDs.

How far do you think this guy will fall? I'm thinking Megatron, AJ Green, Marshall, and Julio will be ranked ahead of him for sure with the possibility of Dez, Andre Johnson and maybe Welker and Harvin going before him in ppr leagues if they get their stuff worked out. I think this guy could be a big bargain in the 3rd round going 25th to 30th overall.

I'll have him as the #4 WR on my board behind Megatron, Green, and Marshall and will hope to snag him in the 3rd.

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Megatron, AJ Green, Marshall and Julio are the only guys that can contend with his stud WR1 status. Harvin and especially Welker/Andre are in completely different tiers.

I'd be more than happy with him as my WR1, a young and great talent who has peyton at the helm. All over this guy, it's between he and Julio who I prefer with my 2nd round pick.

DT won't even come close to sniffing the 3rd round in real drafts, with majority of leagues having multiple owners willing to pounce on him in the early 2nd. DT even in the late 2nd will prove as a bargain, since he'll normally be taken 14-15th overall.

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As a D-Train owner, I'd probably put him behind Bryant and the big 3, maybe Harvin in PPR, if his situation becomes clearer. But yeah, those are the elite guys. The thing is, with Peyton back, no one is going to let him fall too far.

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the guy was a stud WR with tebow throwing to him at the end of 2011.

top 5 WR in 2013 worth a late 1/early 2 [don't argue, it depends on league size].

i'd gladly have him as my top WR and I guess he's not "injury prone" anymore?

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Tier 1 is Calvin

Then I have a group of Tier 2 guys which includes him.

Dez, Green, Marshall, Demariyus, Percy, and Julio

Dez was the second best WR in fantasy last year and Percy was leading the pack not long before his injury so I cannot imagine a logical reason not to include them in the group. Of the Tier 2 group, I have no idea who will be at the front of that line and who will be at the back...none of us do but barring injury, I would guess all these guys are a lock to be in the top 10 along with a few surprises that occur every year.

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I'm pretty optimistic that he can slide. last year I saw Marshall, Green, and Julio slide to that range often enough and was able to snag Marshall at 27th overall. Every draft is different so who knows.

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I'd rather have him than Brandon Marshall (just barely though) next year I think. I expect CHI to likely acquire a TE that they'll actually use, and for that TE and Alshon Jeffery to eat into some of Marshall's TDs.

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I'd rather have him than Brandon Marshall (just barely though) next year I think. I expect CHI to likely acquire a TE that they'll actually use, and for that TE and Alshon Jeffery to eat into some of Marshall's TDs.

I feel like the Bears will have to score more on offense. So yes, others might get more TDs but I expect Marshall to still be a top wideout. They won't be able to count on their defense scoring 2 TDs every week like last year.

As for Thomas, I have him as my 4th WR behind Megatron, Green, and Marshall. All of those are targeted a lot and have good chemistry going with their QB. I would have to rank Dez closely in 5th, Percy in 6th then Julio.

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i think the keys to Demaryius' value is peyton manning playing & his own health. He has all the tools of the elites: size, speed, hands, & ability to beat double teams. To me he has a really high floor but a limited ceiling due to Peyton being a great QB that throws to the open man and having Decker, a legit WR talent, playing the opposite side. Don't get me wrong he's near the top but clearly behind Megatron, AJ, & Dez.

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i think the keys to Demaryius' value is peyton manning playing & his own health. He has all the tools of the elites: size, speed, hands, & ability to beat double teams. To me he has a really high floor but a limited ceiling due to Peyton being a great QB that throws to the open man and having Decker, a legit WR talent, playing the opposite side. Don't get me wrong he's near the top but clearly behind Megatron, AJ, & Dez.

With Dez, you have to worry if he's going to be suspended for hitting his mom. Which lowers him a few spots imo.

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Yeah, I wouldn't include Dez in the top tier of WR production. He seems to be a head-case, and his inconsistent production reflects that. He has a high ceiling, but often ends up mopping the floor.

Big 3: C. Johnson, B. Marshall, A.J. Green.

D. Thomas falls in the second tier of WR's. Along with guys like Bryant, Harvin, Welker, Julio, ect...

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i think the keys to Demaryius' value is peyton manning playing & his own health. He has all the tools of the elites: size, speed, hands, & ability to beat double teams. To me he has a really high floor but a limited ceiling due to Peyton being a great QB that throws to the open man and having Decker, a legit WR talent, playing the opposite side. Don't get me wrong he's near the top but clearly behind Megatron, AJ, & Dez.

With Dez, you have to worry if he's going to be suspended for hitting his mom. Which lowers him a few spots imo.

Are you saying that you don't have faith in Dez's current set of bodyguards? Cause i'm sure Jerry has a big enough pocket book to hire Kevin Costner to join in Operation: Protecting Dez from Himself- word on the street is he's looking for work because he's still paying off his debts from Waterworld.

But in all seriousness either Bryant matured this season or more likely his bodyguards kept him on track. When they announced that last season i am happy that i moved Dez up my draft boards as I have friends that club it up in Dallas and can attest to him being beyond Gronkness. Once Romo decided to start being semi-competent and stop being a turnover machine Dez went off.

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Still can't see the Welker addition not having a noticeable impact on DT's stats. Decker is plenty talented and isn't just a slot WR. It's likely that he takes away some of the deep looks & catches that DT got in 2012. DT's still a safe bet for solid production but I wouldn't take him over BMarsh, AJ, Dez & Julio and am liking Fitz, Percy, VJax & Crabtree before him at this point.

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My first reaction was that DT was going to be just fine despite Welker coming to town, and Decker was really the only one that would suffer, but now I'm starting to get skeptical. Are Decker Welker and DT just going to switch off blow-up games and be inconsistent otherwise?

I'm still thinking DT likely remains a stud as Peyton no1 favorite option, but Welker has me thinking...I do hope this helps DT slip to the 3rd round in August

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My first reaction was that DT was going to be just fine despite Welker coming to town, and Decker was really the only one that would suffer, but now I'm starting to get skeptical. Are Decker Welker and DT just going to switch off blow-up games and be inconsistent otherwise?

I'm still thinking DT likely remains a stud as Peyton no1 favorite option, but Welker has me thinking...I do hope this helps DT slip to the 3rd round in August

Same here. I'm not liking any of these WRs unless they fall.

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Welker helps to keep the chains moving... meaning more offensive plays altogether on the offense.

I do think Decker is more affected than DT, but I agree with the notion that any of the three could go off in any given week.

Figure Manning is good for 4500 yards and 30+ TDs next season... break it down that way and there's plenty of stats to go around.

I am keeping DT in that high-end tier behind Megatron.

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Welker helps to keep the chains moving... meaning more offensive plays altogether on the offense.

I do think Decker is more affected than DT, but I agree with the notion that any of the three could go off in any given week.

Figure Manning is good for 4500 yards and 30+ TDs next season... break it down that way and there's plenty of stats to go around.

I am keeping DT in that high-end tier behind Megatron.

Smart. A high powered passing offense can easily feed three mouths.

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Does DT's value go down with the addition of Welker? On one hand it helps him but on the other hand, it's another mouth to feed. I think his value goes down slightly. Don't forget Stokley and Tamme also. Out of Decker, DT, and Welker, DT contains the highest upside.

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stokley and tamme are irrelevant. if anyone's numbers take a hit it's decker. thomas is the best WR on this team, top 10 option regardless.

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DT's value will take a slight hit, Welker should still be a top 15 WR in ppr in my books. Decker will take the biggest hit.

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It's been a while since anyone talked about this guy on here, so I figured I'd restart the conversation on him.

Seems everyone's talked about how Welker may or may not affect him, what I'd like to gauge is who would you feel comfortable taking him before?

His ADP currently is 26, at that spot, Calvin, Marshall, Green, Julio, and Dez probably should all be gone...so that leaves Fitzgerald, Roddy White, Harvin, Andre Johnson, Vincent Jackson, perhaps Cobb as the next 5-6 guys other than D.Thomas.

Is there anyone of those guys you think is a better value or you'd rather have than D.Thomas at that point in the draft (assuming you were taking a WR)?

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I'd say my only real concern with him is the addition of Welker. If it weren't for that, I'd much rather gamble on him over Dez if I was taking an early WR after Megatron/Fitzgerald. With Welker in town, I'd have to take Dez just before DT/Julio, purely based on workload affecting their maximum ceiling/upside.

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I love DT at that point. If I ended up with an early pick and went something like: Charles, Forte/CJ2k, then I would love to snag this guy at the early 3rd and pair him with someone like Crabtree in the 4th.

I see DT having a ceiling about what he had last year with a floor of something like 85/1200/8. He should be a pretty safe pick but with the possibility of putting up numbers like 100/1500/13.

I understand the addition of Welker could hurt DT. It may, but it could also help him as that's just one extra threat the opposing teams have to prepare for. I'm just trying to look at it from both angles. Half of Welker's production will likely come from the 45 receptions Stokley caught. Another 52 balls went to Tamme and 41 went to Dreesen.

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I would be all over DT this season if not for the Welker addition. I still like his value a lot but I would have considered placing him as high as #4 in my WR ranks if there weren't so many top notch targets for Peyton. Thomas really impressed me last season, though. Even with Welker's arrival, I wouldn't drop him any lower than #6 or 7 WR.

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Demaryius is such a beast. I gave up the house to get him. Welker is a little sobering for me but I simply see Demayius as having a very safe and high floor. His talents, that offense, that QB...Barring an injury, I cannot imagine a scenario in which he doesn't put up 1200 yards and 8 TDs as a lock.... If Welker actually creates more 1 on 1 coverage for him, I could see the TDs going up. Very fun guy to own...Top 8 WR is a lock for me with room for much more.

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