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Aramis Ramirez 2013 Outlook

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What am I missing here? He posted the following lines over the last two years:

2012: 92 runs, 27 HR, 105 RBI, 9 Stls, .300

2011: 80 runs, 26 HR, 93 RBI, 1 Stl, .306

Thats incredible consistency and performance. He's drafted late, receives no hype and doesn't have a page in late March. Any reason he isn't a top 3B?

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What am I missing here? He posted the following lines over the last two years:

2012: 92 runs, 27 HR, 105 RBI, 9 Stls, .300

2011: 80 runs, 26 HR, 93 RBI, 1 Stl, .306

Thats incredible consistency and performance. He's drafted late, receives no hype and doesn't have a page in late March. Any reason he isn't a top 3B?

Because he needs 2-3 months do actually heat up and by then you have already traded him away.

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I'm not sure Aramis and consistent belong in the same sentence. Of course I'm coming from a H2H perspective. He's pretty darn streaky (slow starter). He's also 34 (in dominican years) so that kinda mileage has people a bit hesitant.

That aside, I drafted him in the 8th round of my league and would have taken him ahead of Lawrie, Panda, and Headley. Although his numbers can vary week to week, in the end I expect him to put up somewhat similar numbers to last year, minus the steals (those came outta nowhere).

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IMO, he's the ideal value guy along with Konerko. I have owned him many seasons in the past.

Most years he's pre-seasonally ranked out of the top 50, sometimes 80 or higher.

Most years he returns a top 50 seasonal ranking.

He puts up the stats that Longoria and Zimmerman owners hope to get but often can be drafted many rounds later in snake.

The reasons for his low rank are kind of puzzling to me but it comes down to age, injury history and a number of draft-for-upside 3B guys ahead of him.

A lot better in roto than H2H due to his chronic April/May slumps.

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What am I missing here? He posted the following lines over the last two years:

2012: 92 runs, 27 HR, 105 RBI, 9 Stls, .300

2011: 80 runs, 26 HR, 93 RBI, 1 Stl, .306

Thats incredible consistency and performance. He's drafted late, receives no hype and doesn't have a page in late March. Any reason he isn't a top 3B?

If his name was Aramis Lawrie and was 24 years old he would have 38 pages by now. But he is Aramis Ramirez and has been around for awhile and gets no respect. Most of the players who get a lot of love/hype around here are young players. Those are the players that people are usually most attracted too. But give me an Aram over Lawrie anyday of the week.

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I wind up with him on one, or sometimes all, teams almost every year. He's so chronically under-rated. I got him in the 10th round last year, and after he put up yet another .300-27-100 type season, I figured I wouldn't get him as a bargain again this year. Wrong. He inched up, but just to the end of the eighth round in one league and seventh in another.

He may not be consistent from month to month, but in standard mixed league, he's as consistent as it gets from year to year, yet people don't expect much from him. They must have a hard time getting over how bad he is in April and/or May. I get frustrated with that every year too, but after his big stat correction in the summer, all is forgiven.

And I don't know why he got some sort of injury-prone label. He's played 149 game the past two years, and only played less than 123 games once in the past 12 seasons. He'll get a few day-to-day things and a reasonably small DL stint here and there, but with the exception of one season has avoided major injuries. He's 34 and might start declining at any time, but until he shows me a sign of that, I'm still considering him a steal in rounds 7-9.

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Grabbed him at the end of round 6 in my 12-teamer, which I'm feeling pretty confident about. First time owning him and I'm just hoping he has one more monster extra-base hitting year in the tank. He also said he's trying to work on fixing his slow starting ways a bit; not that his intention to do that will lead to guaranteed results, but at least he's trying. As one of the most notorious second-half players in baseball, if you have a contending team then he really becomes more of a h2h asset than a liability.

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Reminds me of Paul Pierce in hoops and Hines Ward when he played for the Steelers. Just shows up every year and puts up the numbers. He's underrated in real life and fantasy.

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No one wants to take Ramirez because he's not really someone that gets people excited. Taking a guy like Harper will have people excited because of how young he is and what his ceiling could be. ARam is consistently underrated in drafts and is someone I always take. He'll have a slow start to the year, that's a given, but you just have to ride it out. At the end of the year, the stats are always there.

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Took him with my 9th round pick. I thought that was decent value.

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Hurt himself sliding into second, walked around a little, then left the game. Looked like a knee.

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Same knee he hurt in spring training. Cost him just over 2 weeks then. I doubt he plays the weekend, he jammed it pretty hard going into second.

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At least he was walking around, hopefully it's just a day-to-day thing. I can't take another DL player!!!

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At least he was walking around, hopefully it's just a day-to-day thing. I can't take another DL player!!!

He was walking, but with a very bad limp. I'd be shocked if he plays the weekend, at the very least. Teams dont push banged up players early in April.

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Sandoval, Aramis, ARod, Headley, Hanley, Freese, Lawrie all hurt. Suddenly 3B has become ridiculously shallow.

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Sandoval, Aramis, ARod, Headley, Hanley, Freese, Lawrie all hurt. Suddenly 3B has become ridiculously shallow.

This +1. Im thanking my lucky stars I have Kyle Seager, Mike Moustakas and Mark Reynolds all on my roster right now.

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The highlight didn't look pretty, he was in a lot of pain. Hopefully the MRI comes back clean and he's only out for a few days, though I think this has DL written all over it.

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The question is, does Betancourt take his place until he gets off the DL??

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Looks like Alex Gonzalez took over at 3B when Ramirez came out. Brewers fans, has he looked as bad as his numbers to date this year?

Ramirez has SS eligibility, is very close to getting 1B eligibility thanks to Corey Hart. (1B, 3B, SS) would be very useful, especially in really deeper leagues where you're sometimes scraping the bottom of the barrel at certain positions.

Although yikes, I just looked at his profile page, Gonzalez is 36 years old.

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Aram doesn't sound to confident with this injury. Said the Knee feels worse than it did the 1st time he injured it over in ST. This is going to suck!

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Knee sprain out 2 to 3 weeks. At least it wasnt torn or anything.

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