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Trent Richardson 2013 Season Outlook

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Trent Richardson had a fantastic rookie campaign amassing 1317 total yards including 950 on the ground. He also broke Jim Brown's team rookie record by scoring 11 TD's on the ground and catching 1 as well. Trent accomplished all this while sustaining 2 broken ribs in week 6 and playing through it for the rest of the season.

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Just a beast. I expect over 1700 total yards and double digit touchdowns this year.

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Makes me feel cautious for the price, for more than one reason:

http://www.waitingfo...eveland-browns/

That's disappointing. I had pretty high hopes on him this season but this also limits my expectations now. I'm not saying he's going to suck, but this definitely drops him down a couple of places for me.

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Much ado about nothing. Every player in the league plays with pain. It's not like its a knee or ankle. Downgrade at your own risk.

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Much ado about nothing. Every player in the league plays with pain. It's not like its a knee or ankle. Downgrade at your own risk.

Agreed, I would not downgrade him one bit based on this piece of news.

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I smell the #injuryproneswagbrigade coming ...

I think we get it by now. You're the person in every draft who stocks up on the "elite talent" that slides in drafts due to them never completing a full season. #injuryprone #DMC

As for Richardson, I'm not sure if you guys skipped over the part or don't think it will effect him but them saying they plan to Hardesty, Ogbonayya, and Lewis takes away from his value in my opinion. Obviously we'll need to wait until July and August to see how they plan to use the backups. I can't speak for Proteus but the ribs don't concern me much, them using other RBs does.

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I promise you that virtually every NFL player has some kind of nagging pain somewhere almost at all times, you just don't hear about it unless it's going to affect their game status. I'm curious where he got the idea that a rib injury like that would become chronic in nature, that would be unusual.

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I smell the #injuryproneswagbrigade coming ...

I think we get it by now. You're the person in every draft who stocks up on the "elite talent" that slides in drafts due to them never completing a full season. #injuryprone #DMC

As for Richardson, I'm not sure if you guys skipped over the part or don't think it will effect him but them saying they plan to Hardesty, Ogbonayya, and Lewis takes away from his value in my opinion. Obviously we'll need to wait until July and August to see how they plan to use the backups. I can't speak for Proteus but the ribs don't concern me much, them using other RBs does.

Holy crap, I missed that part of the article. I didn't realize that Chud was threatening to unleash Hardesty, Oingo Bongnaya and Dion Warwick on teams....yeah, I'm not too worried about those guys hurting TRich's value.

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I promise you that virtually every NFL player has some kind of nagging pain somewhere almost at all times, you just don't hear about it unless it's going to affect their game status. I'm curious where he got the idea that a rib injury like that would become chronic in nature, that would be unusual.

You do realize the first part of this is a dumb argument right? Acquiring bumps and bruises =/= as going into the season with problems.

Marvin, draft him at the same price as you would have before. I don't give a s---. To think they won't take carries away from him isn't out of the question. In case you didn't notice, more and more teams are doing the same thing in the NFL. Ask Spiller/FJax, Giants RBs, Rice, Gore and others.

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I promise you that virtually every NFL player has some kind of nagging pain somewhere almost at all times, you just don't hear about it unless it's going to affect their game status. I'm curious where he got the idea that a rib injury like that would become chronic in nature, that would be unusual.

You do realize the first part of this is a dumb argument right? Acquiring bumps and bruises =/= as going into the season with problems.

Marvin, draft him at the same price as you would have before. I don't give a s---. To think they won't take carries away from him isn't out of the question. In case you didn't notice, more and more teams are doing the same thing in the NFL. Ask Spiller/FJax, Giants RBs, Rice, Gore and others.

I'll never forget when they asked Marshall Faulk how much of his NFL carreer he was pain free and he responded "right before my first nfl carry, that's it", and then went on to say that's how it is for pretty much every player.

I'm not talking about pain/symptoms that affect performance.

He's still a first round pick even if they dial back his touches some.

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if boogieman becomes the 3rd down back and hardesty gets more than 5 carries ... then I'll be concerned.

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I smell the #injuryproneswagbrigade coming ...

I think we get it by now. You're the person in every draft who stocks up on the "elite talent" that slides in drafts due to them never completing a full season. #injuryprone #DMC

As for Richardson, I'm not sure if you guys skipped over the part or don't think it will effect him but them saying they plan to Hardesty, Ogbonayya, and Lewis takes away from his value in my opinion. Obviously we'll need to wait until July and August to see how they plan to use the backups. I can't speak for Proteus but the ribs don't concern me much, them using other RBs does.

Holy crap, I missed that part of the article. I didn't realize that Chud was threatening to unleash Hardesty, Oingo Bongnaya and Dion Warwick on teams....yeah, I'm not too worried about those guys hurting TRich's value.

Those three are all nickels trying to be dimes. Not even worth thinking about.

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Yeah, it's fine. Talent at RB is never underutlized due to head coach caution. Spend that sixth pick. Spend it hard.

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Yeah, it's fine. Talent at RB is never underutlized due to head coach caution. Spend that sixth pick. Spend it hard.

I'm thinking Richardson is more of a 8-10th pick with Tron gone in a standard league.

Tron may be available in many leagues still @ 6-7th pick....yoink!

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Yeah, it's fine. Talent at RB is never underutlized due to head coach caution. Spend that sixth pick. Spend it hard.

After re-reading that article, I have actually decided to bump Richardson up a few spots on my board. How stupid of me not do so earlier.

Yeah, it's fine. Talent at RB is never underutlized due to head coach caution. Spend that sixth pick. Spend it hard.

I'm thinking Richardson is more of a 8-10th pick with Tron gone in a standard league.

Tron may be available in many leagues still @ 6-7th pick....yoink!

If Tron is still available at even the 5th I would rejoice. I snagged him at 8th overall last year. Happy I was.

I'm thinking his ADP will be somewhere closer to 6 or 7. In the mocks I've done, I've seen him go as soon as 5 but as late as 8.

AD, Megatron, Charles, Martin, Foster are really the only guys I can see for sure going ahead of him in PPR leagues. Lynch doesn't get many receptions so it's possible someone takes Richardson over him. Rice and McCoy seem to be going later like 7-10. Same for Spiller.

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Yeah, it's fine. Talent at RB is never underutlized due to head coach caution. Spend that sixth pick. Spend it hard.

Just add him to your growing list of "do not draft" players.

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Yeah, it's fine. Talent at RB is never underutlized due to head coach caution. Spend that sixth pick. Spend it hard.

Just add him to your growing list of "do not draft" players.

I wouldn't go that far, but I might pass on him for an elite WR late in the 1st so I guess the results might be the same.

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I'm starting to think he might be overvalued in ppr. Anyone else think he's not going to repeat those 51 catches this season? Turner and Chud are going to be more vertically minded but Turner offenses have historically had RB with lots of catches.

Great I just talked myself into a position and out of one in the same sentence. It's not even May 1st...

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Yeah, it's fine. Talent at RB is never underutlized due to head coach caution. Spend that sixth pick. Spend it hard.

Just add him to your growing list of "do not draft" players.

I wouldn't go that far, but I might pass on him for an elite WR late in the 1st so I guess the results might be the same.

There's a bunch of other RB I like over TRich at this point but his upside is pretty big for 2013. He should be playing in a better offense being run by both Chud and Turner and Norv has a lengthy track record of making fantasy studs out of his featured RB. Emmitt and LDT are the 2 biggest names but he got great seasons out of Terry Allen & Stephen Davis in WAS, LaMont Jordan in OAK in 2004 & Frank Gore's break-out (and to this day best fantasy season) in 2006. Basically, almost every season where Turner has been the HC or OC, he been able to ride a featured RB to a great fantasy season. The last 3 seasons with RMatthews have been the exception.

Let's also not forget that TRich underwent arthroscopic knee surgery last August and missed all of the preseason but was still able to return for week 1. It's safe to assume that he was running at far less than 100% for a good part of the season. It's very unlikely that he's going to average under 4.0 ypc this season. I really can't see him under 1,400 all purpose yards and 10 total TD and he could blow past those #'s and post something along the lines of 1,700+ total yards and 15+ TD.

Also, Chud has backtracked some on his initial splitting the load statements, per the link below:

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/players/updates/1691430

There's a lot more to like than dislike about TRich heading into the 2013 season.

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Yeah, it's fine. Talent at RB is never underutlized due to head coach caution. Spend that sixth pick. Spend it hard.

Just add him to your growing list of "do not draft" players.

I wouldn't go that far, but I might pass on him for an elite WR late in the 1st so I guess the results might be the same.

There's a bunch of other RB I like over TRich at this point but his upside is pretty big for 2013. He should be playing in a better offense being run by both Chud and Turner and Norv has a lengthy track record of making fantasy studs out of his featured RB. Emmitt and LDT are the 2 biggest names but he got great seasons out of Terry Allen & Stephen Davis in WAS, LaMont Jordan in OAK in 2004 & Frank Gore's break-out (and to this day best fantasy season) in 2006. Basically, almost every season where Turner has been the HC or OC, he been able to ride a featured RB to a great fantasy season. The last 3 seasons with RMatthews have been the exception.

Let's also not forget that TRich underwent arthroscopic knee surgery last August and missed all of the preseason but was still able to return for week 1. It's safe to assume that he was running at far less than 100% for a good part of the season. It's very unlikely that he's going to average under 4.0 ypc this season. I really can't see him under 1,400 all purpose yards and 10 total TD and he could blow past those #'s and post something along the lines of 1,700+ total yards and 15+ TD.

Also, Chud has backtracked some on his initial splitting the load statements, per the link below:

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/players/updates/1691430

There's a lot more to like than dislike about TRich heading into the 2013 season.

Thanks for the studied and thoughtful counterpoints. I will observe and consider. But seriously, thanks. It's not very productive when opposing opinions here turn into "I wish I played in ur league broseph lol" fests.

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Thanks and I agree with your sentiments. I always try to keep it friendly and do my best to bring up info and perspective that people either don't know or may have overlooked. I'm not always going to be right and have changed my opinion many times on these boards based on posts/info I've learned from other posters. There's still a lot to be sorted out before the 2013 season and I'm sure my opinions on players will change many more times leading up to August fantasy drafts.

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Yeah, it's fine. Talent at RB is never underutlized due to head coach caution. Spend that sixth pick. Spend it hard.

Just add him to your growing list of "do not draft" players.

No one is saying we're not drafting him. But the way you and others reacted, you would have thought we ranked him lower than CJnok or something. I had him pretty high as my 5th RB in ppr leagues, now I'll be reevaluating it and at this point, bumping him down the Ray Rice/McCoy area.

Just like you said, the last few season with Matthews have been the exception. In a time where multiple RBs are being utilized, the past years with Matthews, and the Browns saying they won't let Richardon have to carry the full load, I think it's perfectly fine for someone to use more caution than they were before.

Thanks and I agree with your sentiments. I always try to keep it friendly and do my best to bring up info and perspective that people either don't know or may have overlooked. I'm not always going to be right and have changed my opinion many times on these boards based on posts/info I've learned from other posters. There's still a lot to be sorted out before the 2013 season and I'm sure my opinions on players will change many more times leading up to August fantasy drafts.

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Sky's the limit for Richardson. He'll go mid to late first round in most leagues, which makes sense (there are probably 5 or 6 safer bets for RB1) but I wouldn't be surprised at all if he finishes the season as a consensus top two or three fantasy back.

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