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How is trading in your league?

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I'm just curious about everyone's experience with trading in your leagues. Not trying to have a BC discussion but with other managers in your league, do you find it difficult to deal? Do many trades happen over the course of the season?

In my league, I get very frustrated because a lot of the time, you're lucky to even get a response on the trade offer and it's nearly out of the question to expect a counteroffer. Even when I offer a totally fair trade, I get shot down and the other manager will say in the comments that it's fair but they just aren't going to do it.

I see in other posts where people seem to trade frequently and even get offered ridiculously lopsided trades and am wondering if this is normal or if my league is just extremely uptight.

It makes playing a lot less fun when you have virtually no chance of bettering your team through trading.

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I mostly agree. I have found in my keeper league trades are pretty few and far between, and players who have been kept are generally speaking, untouchable. People, somewhat understandably, tend to rate past performance more highly than future potential.

I have found taking the time to chat up someone before sending an offer helps immensely. Let them know who you're interested in, what you're willing to give up and it's a lot more likely to bear fruit than shooting off a proposal while you're having your morning coffee.

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I just do trades like I'm trying to pick up chicks at a bar. You just gotta hit on as many as possible. Eventually one will say yes.

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Depends on the league. I play in one league where there have already been about 10 trades. The league i commission had its first trade(s) last year in the 5th year of the league. I've found, just keep sending offers, and don't try stealing guys from owners, send fair offers, seems like generally once 1 trade goes through, more will follow.

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There have been 3 trades in my league this year, all involving me lol. So far so good though but I don't want to speak too soon. People get really anal and ignorant when it comes to trades sometimes, especially the league I'm in.

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Trading is what makes fantasy so fun.

I think being able to pick your own team surpasses that, but I get your point.

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I just do trades like I'm trying to pick up chicks at a bar. You just gotta hit on as many as possible. Eventually one will say yes.

I don't think you could've put that a better way. Gotta make sure you have a few drinks in your system as well haha.

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Trades are very difficult to make in my league. The only time i ever have any type of success is dealing with my commish. Third year in a row i have succesfully made a trade with him and most of the time its a win win for both sides. Usually its one of those deals when i need speed or he needs power and vice versa.

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I have found taking the time to chat up someone before sending an offer helps immensely. Let them know who you're interested in, what you're willing to give up and it's a lot more likely to bear fruit than shooting off a proposal while you're having your morning coffee.

I try both approaches but neither one really works. I think people are inherently suspicious and think you're just buttering them up.

I tried asking a guy yesterday if he was interested in any of my 3B and he said maybe Trumbo so I told him two guys I'd be interested in as a starting point for negotiation and the email back to me was "No". Great, sorry to have wasted your time...

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I would say the worst part about being in a longstanding league is that when you are going after someone, the owner generally assumes you know something they don't and gets protective.

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I love trying to make trades, but out of 12 owners in my league there's only about 6 that are willing to do a deal that isn't completely lopsided in their favor. There's something about being wrong in a trade that makes people hesitant.

We've had one minor trade occur so far this season in the whole league.

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also agree with the poster saying to discuss the trade with the guy rather than firing off proposals. this is what I always do, 100 % of the time. I don't like wasting time (other than when I'm posting on rotoworld :P) and I find communicating with them and finding out their needs, their opinion on your players, their opinion on their own players, and being able to negotiate works much more efficiently.

Also I find a huge problem with trade offers I get is that managers sometimes don't even look at my strengths and weaknesses. offering me a fair trade when im already strong in the areas he's sending me isn't going to motivate me to complete a deal, unless I'm obviously a winner in the trade. so make sure you look at his strengths and weaknesses before proposing anything.

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I tried asking a guy yesterday if he was interested in any of my 3B and he said maybe Trumbo so I told him two guys I'd be interested in as a starting point for negotiation and the email back to me was "No". Great, sorry to have wasted your time...

Ya some managers are just impossible to make trades wtih. i usually find out pretty quick in my leagues who those guys are and then I just avoid sending proposals to them for the rest of the season.

Another thing, I've found its a lot easier to get deals going in money leagues than non money leagues. Probably just because the managers are more invested and spend more time managing their teams.

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Depends on your league I suppose. In my keeper league there was a guy who managed 21 trades last year. He is already up to 5 this year. He seems to jump on slow starters and when people panic, then package that value to make a bigger trade.

I'm trying to emulate the guy because he is killing it.

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I haven't made an offer yet this season. Most my guys are players I drafted for a reason and because of that I value them more than others would. I usually make 2-3 trades per season and mostly closer to the trade deadline when I am shoring up needs.

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only been one trade in my league so far. Got Ian Kinsler and Will Middlebrooks for Ryan Zimmerman. Zims on the DL, and Kinsler is doing his thing, so it's safe to say i won this trade

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I offered a guy with terrible hitting and too much pitching Jayson Werth for Homer Bailey.

He responded like I offered him $20 to sleep with his wife.

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Yeah that should have been Zimm+ for Kinsler, not the other way around, but I digress.

I do have by far better luck trading after a conversation with another owner. There's about 4 out of the 11 other owners that I see often enough to have beers with so that's where most of the completed trades I've ever done got accomplished.

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We usually have 2-3 trades per year (total) in our league, and those are near the trade deadline for teams looking for that final push. I know there are tons of discussions off-line, but no trigger pulling.

I have heard of some leagues where trades are fast and furious, sorta like a race to see who can make the most trades. Not sure I would like that, but would like to see a little more activity in ours.

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Trades are fairly difficult, but we have found over time that allowing multiple team trades improves the possibilities. We do not protest trades since its a bunch that knows each other and we assume we are all playing to win, so we cannot account for stupidity. At the same time, I just don't get why some people get annoyed about not received a counteroffer....sometimes there is not any feasible option, specially in two team trades.

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There's a little bit of trading, but not a ton. It also depends on the league. Shallower leagues have viable options in free agency, making trading less important.

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Depends on your league I suppose. In my keeper league there was a guy who managed 21 trades last year. He is already up to 5 this year. He seems to jump on slow starters and when people panic, then package that value to make a bigger trade.

I'm trying to emulate the guy because he is killing it.

Haha. Sounds like me. I think i pulled off 20 something last year as well. Traded with every team in the league (10 team league) except for two i think. Im off to 5 trades this year, but i think i might stop there. I really like my team right now.

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I did two attempts this year

1) Molina for Cueto Straight up, countered Hamilton for Cueto

2) Bailey+Beltran for Choo, countered Bailey+Beltran for Pagan+LaRoche

I'm over it

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