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Andrew Luck 2013 Season Outlook

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what do you think? could be a steal based on his ADP if you wait on a qb because of the depth. didn't think I liked him all that much two months ago but I'm starting to turn the corner

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He is going to be a good one.

For this season, if you can live with the picks he'll be quality...

If your approach os to wait on QBs, you can pair him with Ryan or someone like that and have a solid combo.

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If your approach os to wait on QBs, you can pair him with Ryan or someone like that and have a solid combo.

If your approach is to wait for QBs (and why wouldn't it be?), you are probably not getting Matt Ryan.

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I'm a little hesitant to have him as my #1 because of the Arians departure.

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I'd be willing to take a gamble on him and pairing him up with someone like Eli, Dalton, or Big Ben a round or two later.

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I'd be willing to take a gamble on him and pairing him up with someone like Eli, Dalton, or Big Ben a round or two later.

This is what I was going to say. If you can grab Luck in a reasonable spot, coupling him with a safe and established late round QB like Eli or Ben would be a sound strategy.

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If your approach os to wait on QBs, you can pair him with Ryan or someone like that and have a solid combo.

If your approach is to wait for QBs (and why wouldn't it be?), you are probably not getting Matt Ryan.

I guess it depends or your definition of waiting... and, for me, it is a tier thing, not a round thing.

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I'm a little hesitant to have him as my #1 because of the Arians departure.

This.

Luck could experience some growing pains his sophomore season with Arians out of town. However, I don't see this being too detrimental to his long-term prospects.

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he had 255 rushing yards and 5 TDs last year --- very underrated part of his game

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he had 255 rushing yards and 5 TDs last year --- very underrated part of his game

Absolutely agree.

While I wouldn't expect Cam rushing numbers, it's definitely a boon to his fantasy value.

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Ty Hilton is a very good asset as well. Also Reggie Wayne hasn't retired yet... Luck is a great pick at his ADP.

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The TE's are both quality as well. Fleener, was a college teammate and didn't quite emerge as a go-to guy last year, but might with a new coaching staff. Allen showed a lot of signs of a guy that could be really good.

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The TE's are both quality as well. Fleener, was a college teammate and didn't quite emerge as a go-to guy last year, but might with a new coaching staff. Allen showed a lot of signs of a guy that could be really good.

I like Dwayne Allen. He was a favorite target of Luck's in the red zone last season. However, I feel like the fact that Fleener and Luck were college teammates and Luck was clearly more comfortable working with Allen (as well as most of the WRs) is a red flag against Fleener.

Anyway, with a full pro season under his belt, I feel like it doesn't matter anymore if a guy was his college teammate. I wasn't impressed with Fleener at all in 2013 and he'll have to show me something on the field before I'd consider rostering him in the future.

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The TE's are both quality as well. Fleener, was a college teammate and didn't quite emerge as a go-to guy last year, but might with a new coaching staff. Allen showed a lot of signs of a guy that could be really good.

I like Dwayne Allen. He was a favorite target of Luck's in the red zone last season. However, I feel like the fact that Fleener and Luck were college teammates and Luck was clearly more comfortable working with Allen (as well as most of the WRs) is a red flag against Fleener.

Anyway, with a full pro season under his belt, I feel like it doesn't matter anymore if a guy was his college teammate. I wasn't impressed with Fleener at all in 2013 and he'll have to show me something on the field before I'd consider rostering him in the future.

I agree. I said just about the exact same thing in the sleeper TE thread. That said, the point still stands that the two TE's make for a pretty solid group along with Hilton and Wayne. Allen will likely get more of the TE looks, but between the two of them I'm thinking they will combine for some of the best TE production in the league.

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Same tier in my opinion. Luck has the advantage that the Colts will be playing from behind more than the Seahawks will. Both of them get a boost from rushing yards and seem primed to see a season of improvement on last year's numbers.

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he had 255 rushing yards and 5 TDs last year --- very underrated part of his game

I'm a little worried about Arians leaving as well, however, I think that may result in more rushing yards offsetting any decrease in passing yards. People sometimes forget how good an athlete Luck is with his feet.

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Do we like him more than Romo? If you're waiting on a QB, more than likely Romo will be a late choice as well.

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Do we like him more than Romo? If you're waiting on a QB, more than likely Romo will be a late choice as well.

If someone were willing to pay me a small amount, I'd draft Romo #1 overall.

I hope that explains how I feel.

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Do we like him more than Romo? If you're waiting on a QB, more than likely Romo will be a late choice as well.

If someone were willing to pay me a small amount, I'd draft Romo #1 overall.

I hope that explains how I feel.

I don't see any reason Romo would be better statistically in 2013 than he was in 2012, if anything less fantasy points than last year.

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I don't see any reason Romo would be better statistically in 2013 than he was in 2012, if anything less fantasy points than last year.

Less by what... 10?

Romo's last four 16 game seasons, look like this:

'07 314.6

'09 282.8

'11 286.0

'12 294.0

Pretty sure Romo is exactly what he is. A bottom end QB1 who's gunna score 280-290 points.

Easiest QB schedule of the year, Dez Bryant stepping up, Austin might be healthy this year, Maybe Murray can stay healthy.

I don't expect him to take any huge steps forward, but I see no reason he can't continue doing what he has been.

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Do we like him more than Romo? If you're waiting on a QB, more than likely Romo will be a late choice as well.

If someone were willing to pay me a small amount, I'd draft Romo #1 overall.

I hope that explains how I feel.

I don't see any reason Romo would be better statistically in 2013 than he was in 2012, if anything less fantasy points than last year.

What FFcollusion said. You know what you're getting with Romo. Don't know if Luck will take a step back or not. I like to think he won't but we have since 2006 to evaluate Romo and know what he will likely do. I guess what I'm saying is Romo is the "safer" pick. I know some people don't like that word but I'll use it anyway.

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I don't see any reason Romo would be better statistically in 2013 than he was in 2012, if anything less fantasy points than last year.

Less by what... 10?

Romo's last four 16 game seasons, look like this:

'07 314.6

'09 282.8

'11 286.0

'12 294.0

Pretty sure Romo is exactly what he is. A bottom end QB1 who's gunna score 280-290 points.

Easiest QB schedule of the year, Dez Bryant stepping up, Austin might be healthy this year, Maybe Murray can stay healthy.

I don't expect him to take any huge steps forward, but I see no reason he can't continue doing what he has been.

Last year Romo threw 98 more passes than any other year of his career. I'm just not 100% convinced that trend is going to continue if Demarco Murray is healthy and the Cowboys run a more balanced attack. He could throw that many passes again but there certainly isn't any guarantees. You're right though, I didn't say it would go down drastically but I just don't see any reason it would go up. To say you'd take Romo #1 overall is a good comedy act. I wouldn't even take him over Luck
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