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2013 NBA Championship Finals: San Antonio Spurs vs. Miami Heat

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I believe the Heat will join the Spurs in the Finals . . . Unlike the slow-footed Grizzlies, I believe the Heat have the personnel and the defensive identity (i.e. quicker, more versatile) to corral Tony Parker's screen-and-roll attacks . . . We all know that the Spurs are heavily-reliant on Parker's screen-and-rolls to spearhead their offensive attack. Even though it was just a meaningless regular season game in March, the take-away was that the Heat were actually successful in trapping and corralling Tony Parker's screen-and-rolls, and this despite Lebron, Wade and Chalmers sitting out the game . . . In that game, the Heat had Norris Cole pressuring Tony Parker on the bounce, while sending bigger defenders to trap him early and often . . . and it worked. Parker had this to say after that game: "They just trapped me . . . They trapped me every time I did a pick-and-roll or any kind of play. They were trapping me the whole game." Parker finished 4 for 14 with eight assists and one turnover. My thinking is that the Heat have a working scheme to contain the Spurs' most important offensive arsenal. On the other hand, I am not so sure how the Spurs will contain Lebron James. Just my thoughts, without making any guarantees . . . I believe the Heat have a strong edge if they do meet the Spurs in the Finals.

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4 more Ws...let's goooooooooooooo Spurs!

Back to the Finals where we belong!

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4 more Ws...let's goooooooooooooo Spurs!

Back to the Finals where we belong!

Fellow Spurs fan, I like it.

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by the way the Heat will not make it past this round. PAUL GEORGE has something to say about it

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Back to the Finals where we belong!

Amen to that. They just love those odd-numbered years, don't they?

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by the way the Heat will not make it past this round. PAUL GEORGE has something to say about it

Why didn't he say so in game 3?

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by the way the Heat will not make it past this round. PAUL GEORGE has something to say about it

That's a nice thought, but the Heat are on a mission right now.

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I'm hoping the Defending Champs Miami Heat goes thru. It'd be nice to see how a vastly-improved and today's best player LeBron will do vs his 2007 Finals tormentors. And i agree with StreetCred above. The Heat, if they reach the Finals, will have a huge edge.

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We shall see, never count out the Spurs championship experience, swagger, and one of the best coaches of all time. I don't think the Heat have a "huge" edge.

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We shall see, never count out the Spurs championship experience, swagger, and one of the best coaches of all time. I don't think the Heat have a "huge" edge.

My bad. Not a huge edge. But they got the edge. Gonna be one hell of a series if it happens.

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by the way the Heat will not make it past this round. PAUL GEORGE has something to say about it

When LeBron was backing and posting him up again and again in game 3, George was helpless, he can't do anything. And to add insult to injury, LeBron was shooting over him with his left. As good a player Paul George is, he's not in the same level as LeBron.

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@sasnumberonefan, you're totally right . . . The Spurs have the championship pedigree, are too experienced, and are too well-coached to be counted out in a potential matchup against the Heat . . . When I said that the Heat have a "huge edge", it wasn't meant to discount the most successful franchise in the last decade . . . During their final regular season matchup, I saw something very interesting . . . The Heat were able to corral Tony Parker's screen-and-rolls, and this without Lebron/Wade/Chalmers in the lineup . . . I also think the Heat have the personnel to send various looks against Parker, with Chalmers, Cole, and Lebron potentially taking turns to guard him on the bounce, coupled with consistent traps coming from their versatile frontcourt . . . I also took something from the Warriors-Spurs series, when Mark Jackson used the length and versatility of his guards and wings (Klay Thompson, Harrison Barnes) to challenge Parker on both ends . . . The Heat, IMO, have the backcourt/wing versatility to replicate the Warriors blueprint . . .

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said it all along. heat vs spurs in the finals.

hope the spurs take it

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@sasnumberonefan, you're totally right . . . The Spurs have the championship pedigree, are too experienced, and are too well-coached to be counted out in a potential matchup against the Heat . . . When I said that the Heat have a "huge edge", it wasn't meant to discount the most successful franchise in the last decade . . . During their final regular season matchup, I saw something very interesting . . . The Heat were able to corral Tony Parker's screen-and-rolls, and this without Lebron/Wade/Chalmers in the lineup . . . I also think the Heat have the personnel to send various looks against Parker, with Chalmers, Cole, and Lebron potentially taking turns to guard him on the bounce, coupled with consistent traps coming from their versatile frontcourt . . . I also took something from the Warriors-Spurs series, when Mark Jackson used the length and versatility of his guards and wings (Klay Thompson, Harrison Barnes) to challenge Parker on both ends . . . The Heat, IMO, have the backcourt/wing versatility to replicate the Warriors blueprint . . .

Parker was playing on one ankle in that game. He wasn't healthy. You can take very little away from either matchup this season as both teams sort of ducked each other b/c of circumstance....

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I been thinking the Spurs could give or even beat the East champ (sorry still think Pacers push Miami to 6 or 7).The problem I have is Manu has had some downright dreadful moments in the playoffs. He needs to be on if they want to get #5. If Miami makes it to the Finals, we're gonna see Bonner defend LeBron time to time. His D is so-so, but when he gets his arms up, the reflection from his pasty skin is like a spotlight in his opponent’s eyes.LOL.

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I remember watching the 03 Finals and the question about Tony Parker being can he become a good jump shooter? Well I’d say he’s become the best shooting point guard and one of the best shooters period. He has the perfect all around game for a point guard.In fact,would rate him a notch higher than Chris Paul as the best point guard to run your offense.On defense though, he could use a bit more toughness.Tim Duncan & the Spurs organization have been nothing but class.They epitomize how championships outta be won by gracing & respecting their opponents after a win like yesterday unlike other teams that "show off" & gloat after a win.

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I been thinking the Spurs could give or even beat the East champ (sorry still think Pacers push Miami to 6 or 7).The problem I have is Manu has had some downright dreadful moments in the playoffs. He needs to be on if they want to get #5. If Miami makes it to the Finals, we're gonna see Bonner defend LeBron time to time. His D is so-so, but when he gets his arms up, the reflection from his pasty skin is like a spotlight in his opponent’s eyes.LOL.

Bonner won't be getting near Lebron unless it's a switch. He'll play Bosh or Haslem, maybe Battier when he's in. I expect to see a lot of Diaw on Bosh if that series happens. Kawhi Leonard would draw the Lebron assignment and of course there would be tons of doubling. The problem for the Spurs is what to do if Leonard gets in foul trouble or needs a blow. They had Captain Jax before he went stupid, now they have old man McGrady so they probably move Danny Green over in that case. Regardless, there is no stopping Lebron, you just have to try and keep him frustrated as much as you can and contain his energy points (dunks) as much as possible. He's going to get his....

I agree that the Spurs need good Manu and he needs to cut his turnovers drastically. One of the Heat's main weapons is turning your over and then getting out in transition. I would expect you'll see a lot of Haslem and Birdman on Duncan.

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@sasnumberonefan, you're totally right . . . The Spurs have the championship pedigree, are too experienced, and are too well-coached to be counted out in a potential matchup against the Heat . . . When I said that the Heat have a "huge edge", it wasn't meant to discount the most successful franchise in the last decade . . . During their final regular season matchup, I saw something very interesting . . . The Heat were able to corral Tony Parker's screen-and-rolls, and this without Lebron/Wade/Chalmers in the lineup . . . I also think the Heat have the personnel to send various looks against Parker, with Chalmers, Cole, and Lebron potentially taking turns to guard him on the bounce, coupled with consistent traps coming from their versatile frontcourt . . . I also took something from the Warriors-Spurs series, when Mark Jackson used the length and versatility of his guards and wings (Klay Thompson, Harrison Barnes) to challenge Parker on both ends . . . The Heat, IMO, have the backcourt/wing versatility to replicate the Warriors blueprint . . .

Parker was playing on one ankle in that game. He wasn't healthy. You can take very little away from either matchup this season as both teams sort of ducked each other b/c of circumstance....

I totally agree that there is no definitive take-away from the regular season . . . But if you watched the Spurs-Warriors series, you saw Mark Jackson's strategy of making Tony Parker work on both ends. Styles make fights. The Spurs made easy work of the Grizzlies because the Grizz personnel had no effective counter to Parker's screen-and-roll game. Tony Allen may be a solid one-on-one defender, and Marc Gasol a great low-post defender, BUT the Grizz had no one fast enough or versatile enough to cover Tony Parker on the help side. Couple that with the Grizzlies having no one in their roster to punish Parker on the offensive side. The Warriors, on the other hand, had enough length and versatility (Klay Thompson/Harrison Barnes) to challenge Parker on both ends. One of the keys to Mark Jackson's game plan was to force Parker to switch defensively against Harrison Barnes or Klay Thompson, so that either two can back him down, or shoot over him . . . IMO, the Heat have the personnel and the defensive identity to replicate and adapt a similar game plan . . .

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No doubt Heat have the edge if that ends up the series, but I think it goes 6 for sure. These teams have yet to play each other full strength, so I don't think any regular season comps can be used as backup. I think we can match up pretty good with the Heat. Tony on Chalmers, Kawhi on LeBron (matchup of the series) with Green also guarding him, Green on Wade, Tim Duncan on Haslem? and Diaw on Bosh. Manu is the key to this series though IMO. If he can regain even a portion of his 05 form, just for 7 games, I think we get the edge. That is a tall order, but I have faith in this group and in Pop. Gonna be a fun Finals.

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@sasnumberonefan, you're totally right . . . The Spurs have the championship pedigree, are too experienced, and are too well-coached to be counted out in a potential matchup against the Heat . . . When I said that the Heat have a "huge edge", it wasn't meant to discount the most successful franchise in the last decade . . . During their final regular season matchup, I saw something very interesting . . . The Heat were able to corral Tony Parker's screen-and-rolls, and this without Lebron/Wade/Chalmers in the lineup . . . I also think the Heat have the personnel to send various looks against Parker, with Chalmers, Cole, and Lebron potentially taking turns to guard him on the bounce, coupled with consistent traps coming from their versatile frontcourt . . . I also took something from the Warriors-Spurs series, when Mark Jackson used the length and versatility of his guards and wings (Klay Thompson, Harrison Barnes) to challenge Parker on both ends . . . The Heat, IMO, have the backcourt/wing versatility to replicate the Warriors blueprint . . .

Parker was playing on one ankle in that game. He wasn't healthy. You can take very little away from either matchup this season as both teams sort of ducked each other b/c of circumstance....

I totally agree that there is no definitive take-away from the regular season . . . But if you watched the Spurs-Warriors series, you saw Mark Jackson's strategy of making Tony Parker work on both ends. Styles make fights. The Spurs made easy work of the Grizzlies because the Grizz personnel had no effective counter to Parker's screen-and-roll game. Tony Allen may be a solid one-on-one defender, and Marc Gasol a great low-post defender, BUT the Grizz had no one fast enough or versatile enough to cover Tony Parker on the help side. Couple that with the Grizzlies having no one in their roster to punish Parker on the offensive side. The Warriors, on the other hand, had enough length and versatility (Klay Thompson/Harrison Barnes) to challenge Parker on both ends. One of the keys to Mark Jackson's game plan was to force Parker to switch defensively against Harrison Barnes or Klay Thompson, so that either two can back him down, or shoot over him . . . IMO, the Heat have the personnel and the defensive identity to replicate and adapt a similar game plan . . .

I understand what you're saying and I agree with the Grizzlies portion but the Heat don't really have anyone to make him "work" on the defensive end unless they go with their all wing deployment (Wade, Lebron, Battier, Allen, and Bosh) in which case Parker will be on Allen. Otherwise, they have Chalmers (more of a spot up shooter) and Cole (more of a defender/energy guy). In the Warrior series, Parker was being banged around on screen after screen and he was running around constantly chasing Curry before finally Pop wised up and put Green or Kawhi on him. The Heat don't do anything like this so it's not really comparable.

The Heat will have a quickness advantage with the big screen and will be able to close out on the double high roll (where the Spurs side PNR and then bring Duncan in behind Tiago/Diaw for a foul line jumper) off the side PNR. This will give the Spurs fits. It's the Heat's athleticism that may be the Spurs undoing. Unless the Heat are going to put Wade on Parker, something that I think would work in the Spurs favor as Wade is already banged up. I'd welcome the opportunity for him to try and run and around and thru screens for 38 minutes in game one......He may not come out for game 2.

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To clarify, I wasn't saying that the Heat had a Steph Curry-type PG to make Parker work . . . I was saying that unlike the Grizzlies, the Heat have the personnel to force Parker on some mismatches by using Lebron or Wade to initiate a guard-to-guard pick-and-roll, forcing Parker to switch on either those two, then those two isolating Parker on the perimeter, or on the high post . . . If Parker is guarding a taller Ray Allen, then the Heat can run Allen on some baseline and pin down screens to get a shot over Parker, or by simply posting Allen on the block to back down Parker . . .

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To clarify, I wasn't saying that the Heat had a Steph Curry-type PG to make Parker work . . . I was saying that unlike the Grizzlies, the Heat have the personnel force Parker on some mismatches by using Lebron or Wade to initiate a guard-to-guard pick-and-roll, forcing Parker to switch on either those two, then those two isolating Parker on the perimeter, or on the high post . . . Another option is if Parker is guarding a taller Ray Allen, the Heat can run Allen on some baseline screens to get a close shot over Parker, or by simply posting Allen on the block to back down Parker. In actuality, the Heat have more offensive versatility than the Warriors . . .

Again, I don't follow. Only in the all wing alignment, which I don't know how much the Heat will roll with, would Parker be on Allen. Allen in the post at this point is something the Spurs will live with. I don't get how they're going to get consistently get Wade or Lebron on Parker, even running a PNR w/ Chalmers running off a pick set by Lebron. Spurs will just run underneath or over the pick and live with Chalmers or Cole shooting off the dribble 20 foot jump shots all day rather than switching. The problem with the Warriors was you can't run or sag beneath the pick. Curry and to a degree when he's hot, Thompson, are much, much more dangerous jump shooters with much quicker releases. The Spurs would love for Chalmers and Cole to shoot 25+ times a game from 18+ off a PNR when the Spurs don't switch. If they hit 50% and the Heat in then the Spurs will live with that. They would rather have those guys shooting off the dribble jump shots then Lebron in the lane or kicking to those guys spotted up and wide open. I don't understand how the Heat are going to force TP thru PNR on Wade or Lebron consistently. Sort of apples and oranges on how one would defend it. If Chalmers goes Stephon Curry then the Heat are going to be impossible to beat anyway.....A PNR with Wade and Lebron would be a situation for Kawhi and Danny Green to figure out.

BTW, I could see the all wing formation in crunch time for the Heat, but again, I think the Spurs will just have to live with Ray Allen at almost 38 years old trying to post. This ain't Jesus Shuttlesworth!!!

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