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Rajon Rondo 2013-2014 Season Outlook

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It's now his team now, further more, all KG, PP are gone as well. Him (and Green) can do some serious damage now. 18-7-12 season up for grab?

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I think this thread is way too premature. There are a whole bunch of questions that need to be answered:

With the C's in full rebuild mode, does Ainge keep Rondo around for the next era?

If so, how does Ainge fill out the rest of the roster?

If not, where does Rondo get traded to?

Will Rondo be ready for Opening Night, regardless of who he's playing for?

Will Rondo return at an appropriate time, or will his over-competitiveness cause him to return early and aggravate his knee?

Will Rondo's game change post-injury, if at all?

How will Rondo's attitude be affected if he stays on a miserable C's team?

Again, way too many factors swirling around him right now and it's way too early to say anything.

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Trade rondo? Why? His attitude probably will be an issue but why would they not want to build around him?

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Trade rondo? Why? His attitude probably will be an issue but why would they not want to build around him?

You'd think that would be the obvious option, but now that Ainge foolishly acquired 3 years of Gerald Wallace, there's absolutely no way Boston gets anything done with rebuilding in those 3 years. Rajon Rondo is 27 years old right now and in his prime. The kid is a winner and there's no way he's going to be content with losing during three of his most productive years. Rondo has 2 years left on his contract, and you can't help but wonder why he would resign with a team who would rather go through an extensive rebuild rather than retool quickly around Rondo and Green. Unless Ainge seriously works up something magical with Wallace, sooner or later he's going to have to consider trading Rondo so he can get some assets rather than risk him walking away for nothing.

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Trade rondo? Why? His attitude probably will be an issue but why would they not want to build around him?

You'd think that would be the obvious option, but now that Ainge foolishly acquired 3 years of Gerald Wallace, there's absolutely no way Boston gets anything done with rebuilding in those 3 years. Rajon Rondo is 27 years old right now and in his prime. The kid is a winner and there's no way he's going to be content with losing during three of his most productive years. Rondo has 2 years left on his contract, and you can't help but wonder why he would resign with a team who would rather go through an extensive rebuild rather than retool quickly around Rondo and Green. Unless Ainge seriously works up something magical with Wallace, sooner or later he's going to have to consider trading Rondo so he can get some assets rather than risk him walking away for nothing.

Man, I can't imagine Rondo being happy about wasting away 2 years of the team friendly contract he signed, only to see the money saved go to Gerald Wallace. Having him is basically like paying Rondo and Green max contracts.

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The thing that people always want from Rondo first are a ton of assists, so I think that part of his potential monster production hinges on how well Olynyk plays. If teams just focus on taking away Green, Rondo's jump shot is going to have to get even better and others will have to step up. Also depends on how well he recovers, since what was it, December when he tore it? Rubio had said that mentally he was fine when he came back, but just gradually regaining all the explosiveness took a little time.

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I think Ainge, if he is trully going into all out tank mode, will move rondo and force the team to take wallace as well.

That is about all I can make of this. Rondo is at his peak right now and likely will be for a few more years, but with how truly awful the celtics are now and for 3-5 years, their oldest player should be at Rondo's age, not their star guard.

I think Ainge, if he is not as dumb as he appears to be, will move rondo plus wallace for an unprotected first round pick that will definitely be a lottery pick, and then have 2 great chances at Andrew Wiggins. I am assuming Ainge is all in on the Wiggins sweepstakes, but trading rondo for high picks will prove it.

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Im a little worried about Rondo on next year unless the Celtics sign a big time scorer FA. I think his offensive deficiencies will become more glaring if he has to be a primary scorer, and he has the least talent around him in a long time. Will Rondo remain the leagues top assist man with Green and Bradley as his top options to dish to?

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Rondo will dominate the ball, but aside from Jeff Green, maybe Lee, and to a certain extent crash, how will Rondo duplicate his assist numbers?

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I would love to have Rondo on the Lakers.

LA needs a speedy up tempo guard.

Nash is still decent and I have nothing but respect for him, but he's almost 40.

A trade with Gasol for Rondo would work money wise I think. But Nash should find a destination as well.

This could persuade Howard to stay and make their final run for a ring with Kobe.

When Kobe retires you have a nice core to build upon: Howard and Rondo.

They won't win many free throw shootouts though :D

But meh, just wishful thinking. I always loved Rondo's game and the lakers always had problems containing speedy PGs in the Playoffs. Fisher held his own many years during their championship runs but the likes of Westbrook, Rondo, even JJ Barea couldn't be contained.

But hey, I'm a Laker fan obviously :)

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I think Ainge loves Rondo too much to trade him. I feel as though he may try to pawn off Wallace's contract to a contender. I don't see how the Celts can trade anything besides Rondo to have a chance to draft Wiggins. Too big of a risk for Ainge. With all the reports about Rondo having issues with Doc and the Big 3 and he still sticks around, it speaks volumes to me that he wants to build around him.

It makes no sense to me that Rondo is trying to rush back for training camp. he tore his ACL before feb, so logic says he needs a year to recover. ainge shouldn't allow his franchise player to rush back and risk getting hurt again, since he's the biggest asset on the team. derrick rose didn't even make it back for the playoffs for the bulls in a year. rondo taking his time is the perfect opportunity for the celts to tank and ensure a top 3 draft pick next year. Wiggins is the clear #1 pick, but there are a few others who could be franchise altering, like Marcus Smart, Jabari Parker, and Julius Randle. Rondo needs the long term vision to carry through by taking his time to get back to 100% and letting the C's suck this year so that he gets a great player to play alongside with right away. if ainge doesn't keep Rondo in check, he ought to lose his job. he's never been a great GM to begin with. one favor from an ex-teammate and he gets KG for almost scraps.

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I think the assists worry is a non-factor. Vasquez got 9 assists per game on the Hornets last year. Granted, they had some legitimate offensive weapons, but Rondo is far smarter and the better playmaker. He'll make do with a slashing Bradley, a versatile Green, and pick-and-rolls with Sully and Olynyk. Furthermore, with all the veterans off the team and Doc's strict offense out of the question, maybe this is the year Rondo is finally able to run with a young, athletic core. I remember there was a game a few years back where Rondo racked up 4 or 5 assists in a matter of 3 minutes with JaJuan Johnson and Chris Wilcox of all people, because that was a lineup Boston could afford to run with. With all the talk that Rondo's assist numbers were "inflated" thanks to playing next to three future HOF-ers, it really cannot be stressed enough how much a strict halfcourt offense DEPRESSED his full potential. It'd be a major surprise to me if Rondo doesn't continue averaging double-digit assist numbers.

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I've read a rumor that Dallas has discussed acquiring him. While I know this is a longshot it would be nice to have a stud PG after a mix of Fisher,Collison and Mike James recently.

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Dallas makes the most sense. They have young pieces (Crowder, Larkin), expiring contracts (Marion), future first rounders, and cap space for C's to shed salary. Meanwhile, with CP3 locked in with the Clippers, the Mavericks come up with the next best star PG they can get, and a very attractive piece to further entice Dwight.

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I don't see where everyone is thinking Ainge will trade Rondo. He's got a nice contract, is one of the best facilitators in the game, and could lure other quality free agents to the team. If Ainge trades him, having all the money in the salary cap would not entice elite free agents to come. Boston is not an attractive destination for superstars. KG and Ray Allen came because of their connections to Pierce prior to the NBA. Without one big chip in the franchise, the ship will be sunk. The only other hope would be to do what the Thunder had done, which is absolutely suck for 4 years and draft a few potential superstars. But from what we've seen with other terrible teams lately, the Thunder are the exception to the rule as Cleveland, Charlotte, Washington, Sacramento, and Toronto are still terrible with several top draft pick spots.

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I don't see where everyone is thinking Ainge will trade Rondo. He's got a nice contract, is one of the best facilitators in the game, and could lure other quality free agents to the team. If Ainge trades him, having all the money in the salary cap would not entice elite free agents to come. Boston is not an attractive destination for superstars. KG and Ray Allen came because of their connections to Pierce prior to the NBA. Without one big chip in the franchise, the ship will be sunk. The only other hope would be to do what the Thunder had done, which is absolutely suck for 4 years and draft a few potential superstars. But from what we've seen with other terrible teams lately, the Thunder are the exception to the rule as Cleveland, Charlotte, Washington, Sacramento, and Toronto are still terrible with several top draft pick spots.

Excellent post. With guys like Rondo, Green, Sullinger, Bradley, and Lee around, they are not in a situation to just tear everything down. Especially when Rondo and Green are entering the primes, and all 5 of them on very favorable contracts, they're in great shape to collect solid FAs this offseason and the next, and remain competitive. Unfortunately, the 2014 draft is simply too enticing. Ainge needs to consider all his options, and if a good enough offer floats his way for Rondo, he has to consider it. Personally, I prefer we keep Rondo, but if he goes, I'll be following him until the day he retires.

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I don't see where everyone is thinking Ainge will trade Rondo. He's got a nice contract, is one of the best facilitators in the game, and could lure other quality free agents to the team. If Ainge trades him, having all the money in the salary cap would not entice elite free agents to come. Boston is not an attractive destination for superstars. KG and Ray Allen came because of their connections to Pierce prior to the NBA. Without one big chip in the franchise, the ship will be sunk. The only other hope would be to do what the Thunder had done, which is absolutely suck for 4 years and draft a few potential superstars. But from what we've seen with other terrible teams lately, the Thunder are the exception to the rule as Cleveland, Charlotte, Washington, Sacramento, and Toronto are still terrible with several top draft pick spots.

Excellent post. With guys like Rondo, Green, Sullinger, Bradley, and Lee around, they are not in a situation to just tear everything down. Especially when Rondo and Green are entering the primes, and all 5 of them on very favorable contracts, they're in great shape to collect solid FAs this offseason and the next, and remain competitive. Unfortunately, the 2014 draft is simply too enticing. Ainge needs to consider all his options, and if a good enough offer floats his way for Rondo, he has to consider it. Personally, I prefer we keep Rondo, but if he goes, I'll be following him until the day he retires.

I'm hoping Rondo takes the full year or longer to recover from the ACL injury and Wallace gets hurt for most of the year, so that the Celts are in the bottom. Then 2 weeks before the trade deadline, Wallace performs and a contender will take him for draft picks. I want the Celts to suck hard this one year so that we land Wiggins or a top 4 pick, which could lead to another 1-2 top free agent signings in 2014. Then presto chango, the Celts are back in just one year of tanking and still keep their floor general.

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I'm hoping Rondo takes the full year or longer to recover from the ACL injury and Wallace gets hurt for most of the year, so that the Celts are in the bottom. Then 2 weeks before the trade deadline, Wallace performs and a contender will take him for draft picks. I want the Celts to suck hard this one year so that we land Wiggins or a top 4 pick, which could lead to another 1-2 top free agent signings in 2014. Then presto chango, the Celts are back in just one year of tanking and still keep their floor general.

That would be ideal, but Rondo is way too much of a competitor to pull a Rose in my opinion.

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Rondo shot a putrid 36.5% on isolation plays last year, he was 39.6% the year before. If Rondo's gonna have a big offensive year, he needs to become more efficient in ISOs. Could be a lot more of that depending on the coach and how the roster shapes up

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The Dallas fan in me would love to see Dwight and Rondo come to Dallas. The basketball fan in me thinks a Dirk/Dwight/Rondo combo would be an absolutely filthy trio to watch play together.

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With the rumors we keep hearing about when he'll come back, where do you think he should be drafted in H2H & Roto respectively? On one hand Ainge says he expects him back to begin the season, but other sources say they hope he's back by December or January. With all that uncertainty, he could end up being a huge steal (esp in H2H), or 13-14 version of 11-12 Derrick Rose/Manu Ginobilli or 12-13 Kevin Love. Thoughts?

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Tough call on rondo. Rondo's value depends on who you draft him with. I think he was 4th round value in roto 9cat last year but teaming him up with Durant id draft him earlier. in general 4th round seems bout right to me considering he gonna miss the first month.

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With the rumors we keep hearing about when he'll come back, where do you think he should be drafted in H2H & Roto respectively? On one hand Ainge says he expects him back to begin the season, but other sources say they hope he's back by December or January. With all that uncertainty, he could end up being a huge steal (esp in H2H), or 13-14 version of 11-12 Derrick Rose/Manu Ginobilli or 12-13 Kevin Love. Thoughts?

Given Rondo's competitive nature, you can bet your life that if it were up to him, he'd be back by the start of the season. However, considering multiple other players have hinted at Rondo not being ready by opening day, one has to wonder if the Celtics organization is purposely keeping Rondo out longer as a precaution. It's clear they aren't playing for anything this season anyway, so there's no reason to jeopardize the health of their franchise point guard over nothing. I reach for Rondo each and every year, but considering the rebuild year for the C's, I won't be touching him unless he truly falls to a reasonable time of the draft - in my experience, I highly doubt that.

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He's a big risk to sit out more than you expect this year with the C's in tank mode. Very risky in that he could rest during the fantasy playoffs.

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Not sure how to project Rondo this season.

Any information?

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