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Post ASG Second Half Projections

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Saw a projections thread created in Oct in this forum, so figured I would make this here?

Does Pujols and Hamilton light it up second half?

Does Carlos Gomez Chris Davis slow down?

Do Heyward and BJ Upton combine for a greater than 200 avg?

Does Manny come back and pull an Ibanez?

Does Yu fall apart after his DL stint?

Does Colon finish with 20 wins?

Post your projections on what you realistically expect to happen second half!

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To your six questions I'd say: No, no, no, no, no and no. Well #6 maybe if MLB doesn't take Colon's "special" medicines away from him but even then, a long shot.

And yeah maybe Upton can hit over .200 but not BJ and I'm going with BJ infected Upton with his disease.

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Oh, those questions were just random. I was just giving examples of what to talk about in the thread, not asking directly pertaining to those :)

ie. I think Harper leads the majors in home runs from here on out

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My shocker special is Dan Haren. Recently coming off getting a cortizone shot and has looked vintage in his last two starts. Something about getting a cortizone shot from a Nationals doctor that seems to be infused with something from the fountain of youth. After seeing what it did for Ryan Zimmerman last year and after watching his last start live, I am sold on a very productive second half.

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Joey Bats leads the league in second half homeruns as the Jays push their way into the playoffs

Matt Harvey continues to dominate posting a 2.4 era for the rest of the season

Verlander reclaims his ace status and rebounds very nicely

Jose Reyes ends as the best second half shortstop over Tulo

Goldy wins Nl Mvp as well as winning owners tons of championships with his second half

Justin Upton comes alive again

Brandon Beachy is good when he returns

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Joey Bats leads the league in second half homeruns as the Jays push their way into the playoffs

Matt Harvey continues to dominate posting a 2.4 era for the rest of the season

Verlander reclaims his ace status and rebounds very nicely

Jose Reyes ends as the best second half shortstop over Tulo

Goldy wins Nl Mvp as well as winning owners tons of championships with his second half

Justin Upton comes alive again

Brandon Beachy is good when he returns

How many of these guys are on your fantasy team?

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Do Heyward and BJ Upton combine for a greater than 200 avg?

We talking average or adding them together?

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Davis ends the season with 70 HRs... And passes all the drug tests that will follow.

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Humber didn't deserve the perfect game, either. Brendan Ryan should have drawn a walk at the very end. Bad call.

Almost all perfect games, pitchers get a majority if not ALL the calls to go there way. Don't ever say someone who has a perfect game didn't deserve it. It was Humber's day, sure he got fairly (very) lucky to get it, but let's not say that means he didn't deserve it.

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They should trade him to the Tigers for prospects but they won't. I think they need to pack it in this year, the team is decimated with players struggling and injuries and they shouldn't be interested in re-signing a pitcher as inconsistent as Lincecum.

Hard to justify (to the fanbase) trading one of the most popular players in the organization after he just threw a no-no. Lincecum's peripherals are a lot better than last year. His biggest problem (apart from the drop in velocity and fastball command) appears to be the strand rate. And since the Giants have one of the better bullpens in baseball, it's fair to say Lincecum has been totally ineffectual from the stretch the last two years.

I agree entirely. It's also hard to trade a guy who has the potential to dominate like Lincecum when his value is almost as low as it's ever been.

The Giants would be smart to sit on there hands here. They do not need to rebuild and could be throwing away a Cy Young type pitcher for prospects that may not even pan out or if they do it'll be years down the road.

No one is going to trade immediate MLB talent at the trade deadline for Lincecum. If a team is interested in Lincecum they are a contender who has a package of rookie ball through A ball players.

The Giants are the defending World Series Champions and have won 2 out of 3 years and are still extremely young. A good portion of the core of this team is still under 27 (Posey, Sandoval, Belt, Crawford, MadBum). Lincecum is one of the older players and he just turned 29, Matt Cain is still 28.

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They should trade him to the Tigers for prospects but they won't. I think they need to pack it in this year, the team is decimated with players struggling and injuries and they shouldn't be interested in re-signing a pitcher as inconsistent as Lincecum.

Hard to justify (to the fanbase) trading one of the most popular players in the organization after he just threw a no-no. Lincecum's peripherals are a lot better than last year. His biggest problem (apart from the drop in velocity and fastball command) appears to be the strand rate. And since the Giants have one of the better bullpens in baseball, it's fair to say Lincecum has been totally ineffectual from the stretch the last two years.

They wont trade him, their brass has the forward thinking of a dead snake. Reality is someone is gonna throw money at the guy this offseason that is a price the Giants probably wont want, the question is this:

1. Will the trade partner pay the remaning 2 months of his $22 Million this year? That is like 6-7 Million in savings for the Giants, what will that savings do for them next year, can it be reinvested in a player?

2. Will the prospects offered be someone the Giants would think more highly of than the compensatory pick?

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They should trade him to the Tigers for prospects but they won't. I think they need to pack it in this year, the team is decimated with players struggling and injuries and they shouldn't be interested in re-signing a pitcher as inconsistent as Lincecum.

Hard to justify (to the fanbase) trading one of the most popular players in the organization after he just threw a no-no. Lincecum's peripherals are a lot better than last year. His biggest problem (apart from the drop in velocity and fastball command) appears to be the strand rate. And since the Giants have one of the better bullpens in baseball, it's fair to say Lincecum has been totally ineffectual from the stretch the last two years.

They wont trade him, their brass has the forward thinking of a dead snake. Reality is someone is gonna throw money at the guy this offseason that is a price the Giants probably wont want, the question is this:

1. Will the trade partner pay the remaning 2 months of his $22 Million this year? That is like 6-7 Million in savings for the Giants, what will that savings do for them next year, can it be reinvested in a player?

2. Will the prospects offered be someone the Giants would think more highly of than the compensatory pick?

Matt Cain, Timmy, MadBum, Panda and reining NL MVP Buster Posey ( All from the Giants famr system) think their forward thinking is pretty darn good....

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Posted · Hidden by The Harsh, July 17, 2013 - No reason given · Report post

Joey Bats leads the league in second half homeruns as the Jays push their way into the playoffs

Matt Harvey continues to dominate posting a 2.4 era for the rest of the season

Verlander reclaims his ace status and rebounds very nicely

Jose Reyes ends as the best second half shortstop over Tulo

Goldy wins Nl Mvp as well as winning owners tons of championships with his second half

Justin Upton comes alive again

Brandon Beachy is good when he returns

How many of these guys are on your fantasy team?

Looking at my sig is difficult? Clearly you are trying to insinuate that I am attempting to get bench help.

To entertain you, Justin Upton.

Cow: avg, lol

Another projection; Jose Fernandez finishes the season in the majors.

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Posted · Hidden by The Harsh, July 17, 2013 - No reason given · Report post

Looking at my sig is difficult? Clearly you are trying to insinuate that I am attempting to get bench help.

To entertain you, Justin Upton.

Cow: avg, lol

Another projection; Jose Fernandez finishes the season in the majors.

Ummm....I don't think he was asking you.

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They should trade him to the Tigers for prospects but they won't. I think they need to pack it in this year, the team is decimated with players struggling and injuries and they shouldn't be interested in re-signing a pitcher as inconsistent as Lincecum.

Hard to justify (to the fanbase) trading one of the most popular players in the organization after he just threw a no-no. Lincecum's peripherals are a lot better than last year. His biggest problem (apart from the drop in velocity and fastball command) appears to be the strand rate. And since the Giants have one of the better bullpens in baseball, it's fair to say Lincecum has been totally ineffectual from the stretch the last two years.

They wont trade him, their brass has the forward thinking of a dead snake. Reality is someone is gonna throw money at the guy this offseason that is a price the Giants probably wont want, the question is this:

1. Will the trade partner pay the remaning 2 months of his $22 Million this year? That is like 6-7 Million in savings for the Giants, what will that savings do for them next year, can it be reinvested in a player?

2. Will the prospects offered be someone the Giants would think more highly of than the compensatory pick?

Matt Cain, Timmy, MadBum, Panda and reining NL MVP Buster Posey ( All from the Giants famr system) think their forward thinking is pretty darn good....

Well that was a shift from the days of signing Michael Tucker a day early so you could forfeit your first round pick and how it was a wasted to invest millions in the crapshoot of the draft. Two of those picks were gifts: How home team/college connections dont end up with Lincecum in Seattle and Posey in Tampa is something still making baseball observers scratch their heads.

By the way, I think Buster Posey was the first offensive player drafted by the Giants who became an all star since they drafted Royce Clayton in the late 1980's.

When was the last time your GM made a "creative" move? When was the last time the Giants acquired someone with youth and upside via trade?

It just seems as an observer, that the Giants would never make a Romo-Lincecum for Castellanos type of trade. I realize the last couple years they have been in the mix, so the need for that kind of mindset wasnt there, but back in the mid 00's when this team was poo there were a few years there I thought forward thinking would of served them well. Billy Beane is probably the extreme, probably gives up "too quick" at times, but trading a Bailey for a Reddick or offloading an overrated Cahill for top prospects like Parker and a great bullpen arm are things Sabean would never do.

As bad as the Zito contract was, there have been glimpses when you could of gotten out of at least 50% of the money, maybe more, if you were willing to be forward thinking and gamble, they just arent.

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Posted · Hidden by The Harsh, July 17, 2013 - No reason given · Report post

Ah frig, sorry...night shift and all, brains still waking up.

Public apology to CocoaButter, my bad dude. Sorry.

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Davis gets suspended for PEDs and Miggy wins another Triple Crown

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Does Pujols and Hamilton light it up second half? NO

Does Carlos Gomez Chris Davis slow down? NO

Do Heyward and BJ Upton combine for a greater than 200 avg? NO

Does Manny come back and pull an Ibanez?NO

Does Yu fall apart after his DL stint? NO

Does Colon finish with 20 wins? POSSIBLE

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Anyone have predictions on Chris Carpenter? I made the speculative add a while ago and really have no idea what to expect.

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Posted · Hidden by The Harsh, July 17, 2013 - No reason given · Report post

Just started one in football forum and I think this deserves one too.

What are your bold predictions for the second half.

Let's see whose right.

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Posted · Hidden by The Harsh, July 17, 2013 - No reason given · Report post

already a thread :P

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And the A's have won nothing while the giants have won two World Series in the last 3 years.

It's pointless trying to defend the giants on the Internet because they win in spite of the stats that people like to throw around and Sabean has an old school approach that has created some odd negative stigma that everything he does to win is luck and everything that goes wrong is his fault. It's the same with Bochy to an extent, results be damned. People seem to care about the process more than the results.

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Joey Bats leads the league in second half homeruns as the Jays push their way into the playoffs

Matt Harvey continues to dominate posting a 2.4 era for the rest of the season

Verlander reclaims his ace status and rebounds very nicely

Jose Reyes ends as the best second half shortstop over Tulo

Goldy wins Nl Mvp as well as winning owners tons of championships with his second half

Justin Upton comes alive again

Brandon Beachy is good when he returns

How many of these guys are on your fantasy team?

2. Bats and Harvey

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