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Roy Helu 2013 Season Outlook

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Helu has been being talked up in camp. Looked real nice in the first pre-season game. Is he any threat to Morris? Any chance we starting seeing Shananigans again?

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Morris looked way too good last year imo.

Helu could get involved in the pass game though.

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I think helu is more if a threat to alf's touches than his owners would like to believe.

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As a Helu dynasty owner since 2011, I think we're seeing what he can do when healthy. And, he's clearly the #2 guy IMO behind Alf. But, given how much WAS will look to control the ground game to protect RGIII more, I think it's wishful thinking to see any more than 3rd-down and occasional relief duties for Helu. Now, the one big IF - Alf's main strengths are his vision and his decisiveness - great for the 1-cut scheme. We all know Alf lacks speed - so the big thing to look for is if Alf gets nicked up (hammy, foot, ankle, etc.). That would kill his effectiveness, and open the door for Helu to grab a larger share. Unless that happens, though, hard to see anything other for Helu than 5-6 carries on non-3rd down, and the exclusive 3rd-down role (which believe me, I'd be happy to be wrong about). Ironically, health is what ruined Helu's chances last year to expand on his great 2011 stretch run - he'll need Alf to run into health issues to be anything but a handcuff IMO.

Helu's a great late-round PPR target because he's a high-ceiling handcuff, with 3rd-down abilities as a floor, assuming he's healthy, probably one of the top 3-4 handcuffs you want to target in the later rounds. Obviously, guys like Pierce & Tate have even higher value as handcuffs, but I think Helu's a pretty sneaky handcuff behind those guys, as in the event of injury, I could see a clear RB2 there with his skill set.

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added him in every league. butler was arian-like in his first year but...shanny is shanny. only problem is maybe royster is still there too, right? but i'm adding me a hell lot of helu

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I don't know what you were watching last night. Helu looked indecisive, slow to and through the hole and only began breaking tackles in later when the starters were out. Didn't see much in the pass game either. Royster similar bad performance imo; and that was against backups. They still have a 3rd down, change-of pace rookie RB named Jamison. He will start to get touches in the next preseason game. Morris will see the lion share of touches barring injury. Shanny is Shanny true. The only thing you can count on more than him switching up running backs is stroking his own ego. Morris as a 6th round pick; it strokes his ego every good game he has. He is going to ride Morris until he breaks down. Last year league rankings for Morris: 2nd in rushing yards, 2nd in first down runs, 2nd in rushing touchdowns, 2nd in runs of 10 yards or more (55), 2nd in 1st down rushes on 3rd down. Is he the fastest guy, no. Does he have the best cutting ability, no. But he hits the hole at full speed, never gets pushed backwards, and has more elusiveness then the defenders think. By the second half they try arm-tackling him because they are tired of getting run over.

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I like Helu enough that I'm not going to draft Morris in any leagues and will try to snag Helu late. Just too many times I got killed by Shanahan before. You would think Morris should have a stranglehold on the job but if given the choice I'm taking Richardson, McCoy or any of the other RBs that project in the top 12 picks first.

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Helu looked really really really good today. I'd be concerned that having him back and full strength will likely reduce the workload of Alf Morris. I wouldnt be surprised to see Morris' carries drop from 334 to around 260/270.

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I think helu is more if a threat to alf's touches than his owners would like to believe.

Yep, that's what Ryan Grant owners said too last season after the Skins signed him....

Not only was Morris a stud running the ball, he was the 2nd best pass blocker in the NFL last season. That sure helps when you have a QB who is one big hit away from hitting the IR again.

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I think helu is more if a threat to alf's touches than his owners would like to believe.

Yep, that's what Ryan Grant owners said too last season after the Skins signed him....

Roy Helu in 2013 and Ryan Grant in 2012 are not comparable.

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Helu is going to be a rising name going into the final week of draft season. I like his value as one of the top handcuffs on the board, especially in PPR formats. He's one of the few must-own cuffs and luckily for Morris owners, he's still coming pretty cheap.

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0 chance as long as Morris is healthy.

I wouldn't say "0"

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Little bit different situation. Terrell Davis, who had been one of the NFL's leading rushers from '95-'98, returned healthy in 2001 and split carries with Anderson, who himself had injury issues during the year.

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Posted · Hidden by RotoRaysfan, August 29, 2013 - No reason given · Report post

Wow, well though out and written article, definitely did his research, would you take this guy or joique bell? I guess the question is, which offense do you think is more likely to plug them in, or which starter (reggie or Alf) would you bet on getting hurt?

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Posted · Hidden by RotoRaysfan, August 29, 2013 - No reason given · Report post

Wow, well though out and written article, definitely did his research, would you take this guy or joique bell? I guess the question is, which offense do you think is more likely to plug them in, or which starter (reggie or Alf) would you bet on getting hurt?

very tough question... I got both lol
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Posted · Hidden by RotoRaysfan, August 29, 2013 - No reason given · Report post

Wow, well though out and written article, definitely did his research, would you take this guy or joique bell? I guess the question is, which offense do you think is more likely to plug them in, or which starter (reggie or Alf) would you bet on getting hurt?

Bush is more likely to get hurt, Shanahan is more likely to do Shanahan things. In conclusion: flip a coin.

(I went with Helu)

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Posted · Hidden by RotoRaysfan, August 29, 2013 - No reason given · Report post

Thanks boys, yeah it's a close call to me, they are very similar have similar abilities, though the one upside to Helu is that Bush has good hands and pass-catching ability, so I just kind of thought about that and it should eat up some of Joique's receptions unfortunately because he's an explosive type of player..

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One of the most valuable handcuffs in the league. He has started 5 games in his career. In those 5 starts he averaged 26 touches for 130 yards. You know that Morris averaged 22/105 last year. If Helu becomes the starter, due to injury or (less likely) Shanahanigans, Helu becomes a legit RB1. He's one of the few backup RBs who could step into the starting job and immediately rack up killer numbers.

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