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Ace Sanders 2013 Season Outlook

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no thread on him? i'm reading all this stuff elsewhere about the targets he's getting. the jacksonville stink is that bad?

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Anyone named Ace has had a lot pressure to live up to athletically there whole life. They seem to fail on the big stage.

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He is a slot reciever. The add here is Mike Brown... who was running with the "ones" in camp when Blackmon was out and filled in for Blackmon.

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He is a slot reciever. The add here is Mike Brown... who was running with the "ones" in camp when Blackmon was out and filled in for Blackmon.

yeah, i would have picked up mike brown but someone else beat me to it...i think ace could provide something in ppr though

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bumpy, anything to see here? Been fairly consistent past 3 weeks.

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8 catches for 60 yards that you can almost count on. Beats the hell out of the Burleson, Boykins, Streaters, and Pattersons of the world.

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After many injuries, I have to start this guy in a 14 team, full point PPR for the playoffs as my WR3. Not feeling especially confident, but what the hell...

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I'm in a similar boat, 14-team half-point PPR. I've got Sanders rostered but honestly wondering how far I can really trust a pint-sized slot WR. Seems like a Dexter McCluster type situation.

Ace Sanders hasn't scored yet this year. Whereas slot guys like Eddie Royal have their fantasy value buoyed by some TDs, that really seems to be the separating factor here.

I just checked last game, and the Jaguars mostly targeted him on pass plays on JAC's side of the field, to move the chains.

The first time they targeted Ace Sanders on the opposing team's side of the field, was when CLE kicked it off in the 4th quarter, and Ace Sanders returned it (yes, he's their kick/punter returner) from JAC's 26 for a 31-yard gain to CLE's 43-yard line. A few plays later, with less than 5 minutes left in the game, we finally got this:

3rd and 8 on CLE's 10-yard line:

(4:59) 7-C.Henne pass short left to 18-A.Sanders to CLE 7 for 3 yards (50-D.Eubanks; 21-C.Owens).

So basically, they only threw it to him in that situation because they had to, on 3rd down. 1st and 2nd down were MJD up the middle plays.

Then, Josh Gordon responds in one play with his 95-yard TD, and the Jags get the ball back with under 4 minutes and MUST score. They move the ball down the field and we see this just before the game ends:

  • 1-10-CLE 21(1:28) (Shotgun) 7-C.Henne pass short left to 18-A.Sanders to CLE 20 for 1 yard (23-J.Haden).
  • 2-9-CLE 20(:50) (Shotgun) 7-C.Henne pass incomplete short right to 18-A.Sanders [92-D.Bryant].
  • 3-9-CLE 20(:45) (Shotgun) 7-C.Henne pass short left to 84-C.Shorts for 20 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

On the surface, it seems to me that they use him primarily on 3rd downs / desperation plays, NOT because they want to use him in the red zone to actually score TDs. I think his TD potential is considerably lower than a lot of other players (think a guy like Marquise Goodwin or Aldrick Robinson, or Chris Givens, the big-play burners), based on his usage.

And I still think 8 receptions is most likely an anomaly. I know he's done it twice, but how many nobodies consistently get 8 receptions a week? Pretty much none. Seems like regression is more likely to happen.

Thus I'm predicting maybe a 5 catches / 50 yards type of statline. In PPR, (assuming 10 yards = 1 point), that's 10 points. Barely. In 0.5 PPR, that's just 7.5 points. Without the possibility of TD-upside, there's likely better fliers unless you need ONLY 5-8 points from your FLEX spot.

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Ace Sanders - WR Jax vs Hou

It would appear that Ace is back to 100% based on his performances the past couple weeks, and it would also appear that Ace has replaced a gimpy Mike Brown as the number 2 WR in Jacksonville. This couldn't come at a better time for fantasy owners hurting for a WR3/Flex play in deep leagues. I know what you are thinking : "But Houston doesn't give up points to fantasy WRs!" and your thinking is correct, Houston is ranked 27th in surrendering points to opposing WRs, which is a trend I don't like. A trend I DO like, however, is what they've given up to opposing WR 2s the past 4 games.

Edelman 9rec 101 yards

Sanders 4rec 61 yards

Streater 6rec 84yards 1TD

Roberts 5rec 71yards 1TD

which averages out to 6 rec 79.3 yards .5TDs

Reasons for this include a D-Line that hasn't been getting pressure on the QB all season mixed in with a seriously banged up secondary. If Sanders draws Kareem Jackson, he will get a DB that only has 1 pass defense in the past 5 games and averages 5 tackles per game. If Sanders draws Jonathon Joesph (which I doubt) he will get a DB who has been limited in practice with a groin injury. Both look like great matchups in this short week. Look for Ace to improve on his previous 4 catch 61 yard performance against the Texans this week at HOME in jacksonville Best of all, Sanders is only owned in 1% of yahoo leagues, so don't be afraid to scoop and play!

Prediction

Sanders 6 rec 87yards 1TD

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Ace Sanders - WR Jax vs Hou

It would appear that Ace is back to 100% based on his performances the past couple weeks, and it would also appear that Ace has replaced a gimpy Mike Brown as the number 2 WR in Jacksonville. This couldn't come at a better time for fantasy owners hurting for a WR3/Flex play in deep leagues. I know what you are thinking : "But Houston doesn't give up points to fantasy WRs!" and your thinking is correct, Houston is ranked 27th in surrendering points to opposing WRs, which is a trend I don't like. A trend I DO like, however, is what they've given up to opposing WR 2s the past 4 games.

Edelman 9rec 101 yards

Sanders 4rec 61 yards

Streater 6rec 84yards 1TD

Roberts 5rec 71yards 1TD

which averages out to 6 rec 79.3 yards .5TDs

Reasons for this include a D-Line that hasn't been getting pressure on the QB all season mixed in with a seriously banged up secondary. If Sanders draws Kareem Jackson, he will get a DB that only has 1 pass defense in the past 5 games and averages 5 tackles per game. If Sanders draws Jonathon Joesph (which I doubt) he will get a DB who has been limited in practice with a groin injury. Both look like great matchups in this short week. Look for Ace to improve on his previous 4 catch 61 yard performance against the Texans this week at HOME in jacksonville Best of all, Sanders is only owned in 1% of yahoo leagues, so don't be afraid to scoop and play!

Prediction

Sanders 6 rec 87yards 1TD

Why do you predict a TD?

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^ MJD seems to be fine. MJD not playing would hurt the offense as whole more then anything would help sanders.

I am really worried about a 5'7'' 173 lb guys upside.............he even smaller then tavon austin.

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You don't have to be big if you can throw TDs

lol. I took a chance and he kind of worked out for me in PPR format from last night's stats.

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Haha, his usage was basically what I expected. TD potential is dismal if we're talking rushing/receiving. He just got lucky that his number got called during that trick play and he scored a passing TD (which I was thankful for in my 6-point passing TD league, since I did make a last minute lineup switch and started him).

That easily could have been MJD throwing that trick play TD pass instead. Obviously you can't rely on passing TDs from Ace Sanders. Back to the scrap heap unless you're desperate, and even then, I'd be desperate somewhere else.

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Haha, his usage was basically what I expected. TD potential is dismal if we're talking rushing/receiving. He just got lucky that his number got called during that trick play and he scored a passing TD (which I was thankful for in my 6-point passing TD league, since I did make a last minute lineup switch and started him).

That easily could have been MJD throwing that trick play TD pass instead. Obviously you can't rely on passing TDs from Ace Sanders. Back to the scrap heap unless you're desperate, and even then, I'd be desperate somewhere else.

Yep, that fluke pass TD saved his day, and I was just laughing when I saw it. That being said, I will likely start him again next week if I advance, as I am that desperate. But we do ppr and return yards, so that gives him a bump.

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So with Shorts potentially a no-go for Sunday, I don't think Sanders' prospects improve much. Anyone see any upside here?

If anything Brown would be the guy to go with here.....I think.

/sigh

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I kind of agree. Sanders may get a few more targets, but Brown would probably step into the Shorts role i.e. red zone target. Brown already was getting red zone looks. According to the roto blurb he dropped a TD pass last game.

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I just dropped Sanders to make room for a RB.....

Looks like I'll be picking up Brown then. At least he gets red zone targets.

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I wonder if he takes over kickoff returns for Todman since he will be starting at RB?? Anyone who lives in the area or follows the team closely see this happening?? My league gets significant bonus points when a player hits 50 return yards... I saw that he returned one or two over the past 4 games or so to spell Todman

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I just don't see the upside with Brown. He hasn't done anything all year, while they're clearly making concerted efforts to get Sanders the ball. If Shorts sits, I'd rather roll the dice with Sanders.

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I just don't see the upside with Brown. He hasn't done anything all year, while they're clearly making concerted efforts to get Sanders the ball. If Shorts sits, I'd rather roll the dice with Sanders.

Brown dropped a TD last week so he does get red zone targets.

I was able to pick up Sanders back today and I'm rolling with him in my PPR. I expect them to target him even more with Shorts out. I'm not sure how Brown will handle going up against the opposing team's best CB.

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