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2014 Draft Eligible Players

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I wanted to start a thread to discuss what people are seeing as they watch college football and see potential guys that will be in the league next year (mods please move if need be but I'm not sure where it would go).

I'll throw out a few names to get things started.

Marquis Lee, WR, USC

Sammy Watkins, WR, Clem

Tajh Boyd, QB, Clem

Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville

And my favorite RB so far...(found him while studying Terrance Williams games last year)

Lache Seastrunk, RB, Baylor

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So really it's quite simple. What current college, draft-eligible players are you absolutely drooling to have on your fantasy team next year. If you could, say a bit about the player and why you think they'd be fantasy-viable.

For me, I'm absolutely drooling over the prospect of getting Mike Evans on my team. I'm an Aggie (and play with other Aggies), but the relatively early draft pick I know I'd have to spend on him doesn't matter. As a 6'5", sure-handed receiver with good body control and decent speed, I think he's going to be a fantasy monster, regardless of what team takes him. He'll put up yards, and he'll be huge in the red zone (think Calvin Johnson, Jimmy Graham, Dez Bryant style too-big to cover).

Keeping with the Aggie theme, I'm also drooling over the dual-threat potential of Manziel if he goes to a favorable offense (*cough* Eagles *cough*). Don't think he'll be an elite passer, but his running ability to make up for it for his potential fantasy owners.

So what next-year rookies are y'all already chomping at the bit to draft?

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If I finish last, Sammy Watkins will, witout a doubt, be on my team with the first overall pick. I have three first round picks and two second round picks so this subject is an important one for me.

I will also be targeting Eric Ebron if he lands on a good team. He is a freak athlete and North Carolina products haven't failed me yet.

I am unusually high on Jordan Matthews and have been even coming into the year, I just think he is a freak.

I also like Jarvis Landry better than Odell Beckham Jr. , I think Landry can be a solid NFL WR2 and great deep threat. A very pro ready player IMO

I don't think there are any intriguing running backs in this year's draft at all. They all have faults.

At quarterback, I would like either bridgewater or boyd and possibly hundley. Nobody else is especially intriguing. Derek Carr would be nice if I could get him in the 2nd.

I absolutely love Allen Robinson, he reminds me exactly of Keenan Allen.

Another player comparison would be Brandin Cooks to Victor Cruz.

Overall here are my early steals and busts ( this is just my early opinion, please don't base your ranks off this) :

Steals: Derek Carr, Tajh Boyd, Jarvis Landry, Allen Robinson, Jace Amaro, and Bishop Sankey

Busts : Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Melvin Gordon, Odell Beckham Jr, and DeVante Parker.

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Have you ever seen Mike Evans run anything but a "Go-route" or a "Fly" or whatever you wanna call it?

It was brought to my attention the other day and I kinda thought about it. Does his game need some major refinement?

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Whenever TJ Yeldon comes out I'm making sure he's on all of my teams.

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Have you ever seen Mike Evans run anything but a "Go-route" or a "Fly" or whatever you wanna call it?

It was brought to my attention the other day and I kinda thought about it. Does his game need some major refinement?

He needs refining, but I've seen him score TDs on WR screens and slants. He's only in his third year of playing football ever (Senior year of high school, redshirt, freshman, sophomore). I don't think Calvin was any more refined coming out of Georgia Tech, and he's done alright.

You can't coach that size though, and as a former basketball player, he knows how to use it.

Plus, half of A&M's offense is running around after your route is over, so who knows what he's running. Is that a no-route?

Great blocker too (at 6'5" 225, he'd better be), so he'll be able to stay on the field in all sets.

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Manziel would have huge potential in a solid offense. I'd think his floor would be something like what Terrelle Pryor is doing at Oakland, which is still viable at QB2, which is where I think Manziel will be drafted.

I'm not sold on Mike Evans just yet because he is definitely going to come out raw. WR is one of the hardest positions for rookies to adapt to. I could see him being a weekly flier who's TD dependent but I don't think he will break out until Year 2 or 3.

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Have you ever seen Mike Evans run anything but a "Go-route" or a "Fly" or whatever you wanna call it?

It was brought to my attention the other day and I kinda thought about it. Does his game need some major refinement?

He needs refining, but I've seen him score TDs on WR screens and slants. He's only in his third year of playing football ever (Senior year of high school, redshirt, freshman, sophomore). I don't think Calvin was any more refined coming out of Georgia Tech, and he's done alright.

You can't coach that size though, and as a former basketball player, he knows how to use it.

Plus, half of A&M's offense is running around after your route is over, so who knows what he's running. Is that a no-route?

Great blocker too (at 6'5" 225, he'd better be), so he'll be able to stay on the field in all sets.

Ok, thanks for the input, you persuaded me to take him if he falls to me with my 2nd pick.

Would you say the comparison between him and V-Jax is fair?

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Have you ever seen Mike Evans run anything but a "Go-route" or a "Fly" or whatever you wanna call it?

It was brought to my attention the other day and I kinda thought about it. Does his game need some major refinement?

He needs refining, but I've seen him score TDs on WR screens and slants. He's only in his third year of playing football ever (Senior year of high school, redshirt, freshman, sophomore). I don't think Calvin was any more refined coming out of Georgia Tech, and he's done alright.

You can't coach that size though, and as a former basketball player, he knows how to use it.

Plus, half of A&M's offense is running around after your route is over, so who knows what he's running. Is that a no-route?

Great blocker too (at 6'5" 225, he'd better be), so he'll be able to stay on the field in all sets.

Ok, thanks for the input, you persuaded me to take him if he falls to me with my 2nd pick.

Would you say the comparison between him and V-Jax is fair?

Never get the bucs on TV and I don't own VJax, but from what I've heard of VJax, it seems like an accurate comparison.

He's always "open, even when he's covered and has shown he'll fight for the ball. He's fast enough to be a viable receiver, but he doesn't have elite speed (even his 95 yarder against Bama, he had to stiff arm the poor DB who tried to tackle him). He's raw in the routes he runs, but he gets off jams alright and is fluid enough they played with him in the slot earlier in the season. He has very good hands, and has shown great body control moments. He's known for having a good work ethic, has been respectful in the interviews I've seen of him (and he's turned down some interviews preferring to let his play do the talking), and my friends really enjoyed playing basketball with him over the summer. Very much a team player.

Now, this is all coming from someone who is very biased towards the Aggies, so take that with a grain of salt. But if it's a dynasty league, I'd bet on him being the best WR over the long run out of next class. There's even been talk of using him as a Graham-style TE, so he could be big in that role.

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Ka'Deem Carey and Jawon Chisholm are intriguing RB prospects.

Chislom is impressive, forgot about him for quite some time. Reminds me of last year's product of Latavius Murray out of UCF based strictly on what I have heard.

Ka'deem Carey reminds me of a lesser Gio Bernard.

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Have you ever seen Mike Evans run anything but a "Go-route" or a "Fly" or whatever you wanna call it?

It was brought to my attention the other day and I kinda thought about it. Does his game need some major refinement?

He needs refining, but I've seen him score TDs on WR screens and slants. He's only in his third year of playing football ever (Senior year of high school, redshirt, freshman, sophomore). I don't think Calvin was any more refined coming out of Georgia Tech, and he's done alright.

You can't coach that size though, and as a former basketball player, he knows how to use it.

Plus, half of A&M's offense is running around after your route is over, so who knows what he's running. Is that a no-route?

Great blocker too (at 6'5" 225, he'd better be), so he'll be able to stay on the field in all sets.

Ok, thanks for the input, you persuaded me to take him if he falls to me with my 2nd pick.

Would you say the comparison between him and V-Jax is fair?

Never get the bucs on TV and I don't own VJax, but from what I've heard of VJax, it seems like an accurate comparison.

He's always "open, even when he's covered and has shown he'll fight for the ball. He's fast enough to be a viable receiver, but he doesn't have elite speed (even his 95 yarder against Bama, he had to stiff arm the poor DB who tried to tackle him). He's raw in the routes he runs, but he gets off jams alright and is fluid enough they played with him in the slot earlier in the season. He has very good hands, and has shown great body control moments. He's known for having a good work ethic, has been respectful in the interviews I've seen of him (and he's turned down some interviews preferring to let his play do the talking), and my friends really enjoyed playing basketball with him over the summer. Very much a team player.

Now, this is all coming from someone who is very biased towards the Aggies, so take that with a grain of salt. But if it's a dynasty league, I'd bet on him being the best WR over the long run out of next class. There's even been talk of using him as a Graham-style TE, so he could be big in that role.

Thanks for the analysis and I understand the bias. As a Buckeyes fan, I rank Carlos Hyde higher than Marion Grice, Carey, and others.

Anyways, you hit it spot on,if not ,better, from what the experts have been saying about Evans. Thanks again

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What's the thoughts on Marqise Lee? IMO he is overrated

I haven't seen him play enough, as my old (22) self is normally in bed or completely disinterested in the west coast games. I thought he was lights out last year, but whether it's the coaching or the first-year starting QB, he just hasn't been able to get it done. Quite frankly, I forgot he existed. He's definitely flashed plenty of potential (particularly last year), but the lack of elite defenses always makes one wonder.

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Maybe not so much his for his rookie year, but Marqise Lee is a guy that has the size and skills to become a PPR monster down the line (health permitting).

A large part of why he hasn't been heard from much so far this season is a combination of 1.) playing in a dysfunctional offense and 2.) being plagued by a nagging knee injury

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Health is a concern and he has just been lost in the offense this year.

I would draft him with my 2nd likely mid- 1st round pick just based on his far past but I would not put him top 5 overall like some

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Jalen Saunders is another guy I forgot about but explosive slot rookies have been unpredictable lately(Adams on Carolina a few years ago and Ace Sanders this year). I would not snag Saunders till the 2nd round

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Possibly Lache Seastrunk, depending where he ends up

do agree with you. I think Seastrunk is the best back in the class overall or at least up there in the conversation.

He is not huge but he is not an ideal workhorse sized NFL back. However, he makes up for it with speed and moves.

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Whenever TJ Yeldon comes out I'm making sure he's on all of my teams.

You wouldn't be worried about "Alabama back syndrome?" Mark Ingram, T-Rich, and Monte Ball (same concept) haven't given me a whole lot of confidence in RBs coming out that run behind mauling O-lines.

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Have you ever seen Mike Evans run anything but a "Go-route" or a "Fly" or whatever you wanna call it?

It was brought to my attention the other day and I kinda thought about it. Does his game need some major refinement?

He needs refining, but I've seen him score TDs on WR screens and slants. He's only in his third year of playing football ever (Senior year of high school, redshirt, freshman, sophomore). I don't think Calvin was any more refined coming out of Georgia Tech, and he's done alright.

You can't coach that size though, and as a former basketball player, he knows how to use it.

Plus, half of A&M's offense is running around after your route is over, so who knows what he's running. Is that a no-route?

Great blocker too (at 6'5" 225, he'd better be), so he'll be able to stay on the field in all sets.

Ok, thanks for the input, you persuaded me to take him if he falls to me with my 2nd pick.

Would you say the comparison between him and V-Jax is fair?

When is your 2nd pick? Evans will be a top 5ish guy in rookie drafts.

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Whenever TJ Yeldon comes out I'm making sure he's on all of my teams.

You wouldn't be worried about "Alabama back syndrome?" Mark Ingram, T-Rich, and Monte Ball (same concept) haven't given me a whole lot of confidence in RBs coming out that run behind mauling O-lines.

I like how you chose to leave Lacy out. No, Alabama back syndrome does not scare me. Ingram is a complete bust but I still have a lot of faith in Richardson. Those three backs in a row, Richardson, Lacy, and Yeldon, are some of the most punishing runners I have ever seen. I would not be surprised one bit if in a few years people are calling Yeldon the next AD. Of course I could be monumentally wrong on this but all three of them pass my eye test with flying colors and I personally trust that more than any set of stats.

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If were talking 2015, I would draft Gurley. He is at the top of my list and it's not even close.

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If were talking 2015, I would draft Gurley. He is at the top of my list and it's not even close.

Truth, Gurley is going to be a stud. Trying to acquire draft picks for the following years draft so I can try to trade up to get him if needed.

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It's ironic that the 2013 draft class was panned as weak, when in actual fact it's produced 5 RB's who've already become feature backs in Year 1 (or are about to be full feature backs) in Gio, Lacy, Bell, Stacy & Ellington (20 touch target that Arians wants says he's going to be a feature back), 1 WR who is already making a huge splash (Allen), 2 WR's who clearly look future #1 WR's on their team no later than 2015, if not next year (Hopkins & Woods - I'm saying Hopkins by 2015, Woods next year), albeit not now, and 2 TE's with top 6 ceilings (Reed & Eifert). I know why this likely happened - no star QB power, and no obvious immediate impact WR/RB guys that were easy to spot (Lacy because of the worry about his timeshare with Frankin, Gio because of the goal-line concerns, Allen's rise is well-documented in his own thread, no need to rehash, and everyone thought Fred Davis was the TE of the future in WAS). And those don't even include Tavon Austin (who we have no idea if he's really a bust, or just horribly schemed, it's really hard to tell given how bad STL's passing game has been designed so far, but I digress), or Cordarelle Patterson/Justin Hunter (who are so raw they have been underutilized, but unlike Austin, I understand why), and Christine Michael (who talent-wise is right there with Gio & Lacy, albeit in different molds - he just has zero shot without a Beast Mode injury to be relevant at all this year). I point this out because it usually ends up that draft classes end up produce far more talent than what people initially see.

In contrast, when you look at 2014's class, assuming the draft-eligilble sophomores come out, I already see 3 RB's who should have a pretty clear early impact (Seastrunk, Sankey & Gordon), 2 elite, AJ-Green/Julio type WR's (Sammy Watkins & Mike Evans), an enigma who looked like the best WR until really bad QB play this year (Marquise Lee), 3 elite TE's all equal to or better than this past year's class top TE's (Amaro, Ebron, Sefarius-Jenkins) & and 3 QB's sure to be put into starting positions next year with huge QB1 ceilings long-term (Bridgewater, Mariota & Manziel). And this does not include a few RB's that could really elevate their stock with good Senior Bowl / Bowl / combine work (Carey & Sims, if they show a little more physicality to their game, or room to bulk up a little, would rise very quickly, while DeAnthony Thomas will have to fight the concerns raised with Austin, especially given Austin has more lateral agility skills than Thomas and is still struggling). Given the fact that there are always more players that come out of the woodwork, if you own an early pick, you can be very happy - but even then the 2nd half of the 1st round, and the early 2nd round (assuming 12-team standard leagues) should offer players who can help pretty quickly, and more player with high ceilings at those spots than in recent years. And with Boyd, Carr & Hundley leading the next tier of QB's (I do think McCarron is more of a game manager than a QB1-ceiling type) behind the big 3, no doubt by the post-Bowl season, this draft is going to labelled as another super-class for QB's (whereas next year is going to be a RB-rich class, when you think of elite talents).

All of that said - this 2014 draft class is going to be quite deep, and it's going to offer help in a lot of areas (unlike last year, where little to no immediate help existed for QB's, and only 1-2 WR's who could help right away - Patterson, Austin, Wheaton, Hunter & Woods owners should still be patient, as these guys are just scratching the surface, but except for Austin, every owner should have known these guys were going to be projects, and have 2013 as a redshirt year FFB-wise).

The combine and bowl games will change the order FFB-draft wise, although I think it's a lock Bridgewater & Mariota go 1-2 for skill players, and in the top 3 picks in the actual NFL draft (whoever doesn't need QB either trades down, or gets Clowney) - with Anthony Barr going #4, and Matthews going #5 (or vice-versa - the struggles of this year's top tackle class is going to make teams leery of investing there when they have elite D players or QB's available).

FFB-draft wise, last year there was little difference between having the #1 or #4 pick - unlike last year, where no clear #1 or even #2/#3 pick emerged (most took Bell or Gio #1 because RB is so important, but there was tons of discussion), I think we'll see the top 2 WR's and whoever are viewed as top 2 RB's go 1-4 - my guess is Seastrunk ends up #1 too, he does it all, but which team drafts these guys will no doubt influence it. It's clear people downgraded Lacy because GB drafted Franklin, to their regret (and to my Broncos, I say again, you will rue this for years). Likewise, Michael deservedly got downgraded with his spot.

If Seastrunk gets picked in Rd 1 / early Rd 2 in a good spot (remember Rd 2 is the new norm for RB's who are really good, Rd 1 is if you are viewed as elite, and even then, teams are leery to use that pick, since everyone recognizes their short shelf-lives, and rarely go 3-down with 1 guy anymore), then barring injury or a Combine collapse, he'll likely be the #1 consensus pick, given how much everyone is looking for RB help (but shouldn't pass up elite WR's for mediocre RB's, the RB's just have to show they can be 3-down guys with red zone finishing ability). But I can't see either Watkins or Evans going less than in the top 4-5 picks, and they could easily jump into the #1 pick convo with big bowl games and show off their insane skill sets at the Combine, when they've already shown enough game reel to convince NFL scouts (Watkins has incredible moves, start-up speed, burner long speed, is a great hands-catcher and has great elusiveness after-catch, while Evans is less elusive, but has unbelievable hand-catching, ball-fighting, get-the-ball-at-its-apex ability, combined with height and great vertical reach, and burner long speed - so Watkins does everything to get open and can burn by you, while Evans can burn by you and outfight you for the ball, especially in the redzone and on the jump balls). Honestly, I don't think you'll see a huge deviation from those 3, barring some major Combine/injury/Bowl demonstrations.

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