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Diop / Dampier / Brandon Bass

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I believe Diop is the starting C, playing 30 mpg for the rest of the season. This is just a guess.

Here's why:

1. Diop can score this year. If you watch the games, he's MUCH better finishing around the rim. He actually dunks. Last year, this was a timeshare only because Diop couldn't score. Also, Diop has better hands than Dampier. Dampier is notorious for mishandling passes.

2. Diop is much more mobile than Dampier. It doesn't make much sense to put in Devin Harris to push the pace and then put in a Center that can't run the court. Plus the Mavs tend to switch P&Rs ... Dampier is useless if he gets caught against a small guy.

3. Diop is an excellent shot blocker. Dampier is only fair.

The only argument I can think of to give Damp more than 20 mpg is his offensive rebounding. He gets great position and he takes up a lot of space ... one of the best offensive rebounders in the league. Diop is still pretty damn good in that department.

Brandon Bass will still get 20-25 mpg after Dampier gets back. He'll still get all of Dirk's backup minutes, plus he'll get some time at SF in a "big ball" alignment where Josh Howard moves to SG.

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Damp also has the big contract, which sometimes gets guys minutes when they should be ridin pine.

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I like Bass better than all of them, if you watched some of the recent Maverick games - they really like this kid. I don't just mean they like him enough to give him PT while Dampier is out, they are feeding him in the post like he is the down-low presence that they need. He is a little raw on that end but he has a nice little turnaround jumper that he uses as his "go-to move" and it is pretty effective. Bass works VERY hard on rebounding and he has a strong athletic body, enough to power his way into some points down on the block. Diop has vastly improved his offensive game in the offseason as well as his conditioning (he looks like a totally different person if you compare his 06 frame to now). He still travels quite a bit when he backs in and has offensive skills to the likes of Kwame Brown and Jason Collins, his defense and protection around the basket is good - but he doesn't have that intensity and fight that Bass does. I don't know why the Mavs would want to use Dampier even when he returns, as I believe that Bass can do everything he does and better - but all indications are that AJ wants to incorporate him in the lineup, so someone is going to lose PT.

I'd pick them up in this order once Damp comes back:

Bass

Dampier

Diop

All three will be vying for PT - really not making any of them "good" fantasy options.

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Diop would still be the starting C with Damp backing him up and Juwan Howard as the 3rd option. IMO Bass would get the bigger blow out of them all as he would be relegated to backing up Dirk and also getting some time if Avery selects playing small playing him at the 5 and Dirk at the 4. I see Bass losing some PT, not much but significant enough to where he wont have much value.

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Diop would still be the starting C with Damp backing him up and Juwan Howard as the 3rd option. IMO Bass would get the bigger blow out of them all as he would be relegated to backing up Dirk and also getting some time if Avery selects playing small playing him at the 5 and Dirk at the 4. I see Bass losing some PT, not much but significant enough to where he wont have much value.

I don't see Bass losing time. The Mavs are getting almost nothing from the SG position. That's where the extra minutes will come from. Josh Howard will play SG and Brandon Bass will play SF.

Edit: By the way when I'm talking about Damp or Diop's offensive skills, I'm only talking about being able to finish at the hoop. The only way either gets the ball is if their teamate finds them after their guy leaves to double someone. And yes, last year Diop couldn't even do that.

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I don't see Bass losing time. The Mavs are getting almost nothing from the SG position. That's where the extra minutes will come from. Josh Howard will play SG and Brandon Bass will play SF.

Edit: By the way when I'm talking about Damp or Diop's offensive skills, I'm only talking about being able to finish at the hoop. The only way either gets the ball is if their teamate finds them after their guy leaves to double someone. And yes, last year Diop couldn't even do that.

Bass will not play SF.. lol.. Howard/E.Jones/D.George can play the 3 with Stack/JET/T.Hassell at the 2.. Avery is not gonna move Bass from the 4/5 and take away his rebounding abilities.

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Bass will not play SF.. lol.. Howard/E.Jones/D.George can play the 3 with Stack/JET/T.Hassell at the 2.. Avery is not gonna move Bass from the 4/5 and take away his rebounding abilities.

In this lineup I'm hypothesizing, rebounding would not be a problem. You would have Dirk, Diop, Bass, and Josh Howard on the court.

The purpose of putting Bass at the SF will be to allow him to post up smaller defenders. He's basically the only Maverick with something resembling a post-up game, but he doesn't have the size to do it against PFs. So this lineup creates the mismatch for Bass.

The question is can Bass defend on the perimeter so that this alignment will work on the defensive end. Utah can use a big lineup against small teams, but they have AK-47. From what I've seen, Bass might be able to do it well enough.

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bottom line, all 3 are going to stink...unless you're in a REAL deep league.

dampier, diop, bass - in order from 1st to worst.

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bottom line, all 3 are going to stink...unless you're in a REAL deep league.

dampier, diop, bass - in order from 1st to worst.

I agree. My money says all three will average 25 minutes or less. It doesn't matter who starts. Also, there will be times where Dirk is the only big on the floor.

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id like to see Bass retain value. i have him in a real deep league, but i think his future could make him worth holding onto.(dynasty league)

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