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My Dinner With Andre

Ban on Home Plate Collisions in 2014

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They called him out because he intentionally interfered with the ball. Had he not swiped at it, he would've been safe. I don't necessarily like the idea of removing it from the sport, but i do think something needs to be done about the guys who go in with the sole intention of running over the catcher.

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This is the stupidest rule in all of sports, and I'm not just saying this because it cost my team a game. Seriously, what a BS rule all because Buster Posey got injured blocking the plate on one occasion. They should just let base runners automatically score from now on. Garbage.

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Marlins fan?

I agree, it is bad. Morris even said something to the ump and the ump said he agreed... Pretty bad and I hope its 100% gone next season

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It is not just Buster Posey.

Ray Fosse, if you are old enough to remember ...

http://m.mlb.com/video/v5766041/rose-crashes-into-fosse-at-the-plate

And that happened in what amounts to an exhibition -- 70 All Star game.

I agree that the rule probably could use some adjustment but I'm not sure how exactly they fix it so that catchers aren't wussies or guys like Stephen Drew don't have the ankles facing 180 degrees in the wrong direction.

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IMO it's a stupid rule. the catcher knows the risks he takes on when he's making the decision to block the plate.

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I agree that the rule probably could use some adjustment but I'm not sure how exactly they fix it so that catchers aren't wussies

All those pads and they are still wussies? Good thing they play baseball and not football.

On a serious note though, I'm fine with the rule. Could use some tinkering but 1st, 2nd and 3rd aren't blocked so I'm ok with home plate not being blocked too.

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I'm convinced people will never, ever get it.

Catchers can block the plate. You can block any base you want.

What you can't do is try to knock the ball out of the fielder's glove.

If the catcher's blocking the plate run through him, just like you should run through the 1st baseman and slide through the 2nd or 3rd baseman if they are blocking the respective base.

What you can't do is deliberately try to knock the ball out of the fielder's glove. Doesn't matter if it judo chop (ie, A-Rod), spear, or forearm shiver.

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It is not just Buster Posey.

Ray Fosse, if you are old enough to remember ...

http://m.mlb.com/vid...se-at-the-plate

And that happened in what amounts to an exhibition -- 70 All Star game.

I agree that the rule probably could use some adjustment but I'm not sure how exactly they fix it so that catchers aren't wussies or guys like Stephen Drew don't have the ankles facing 180 degrees in the wrong direction.

It's a sport and injuries happen. It's a stupid rule when the umpire even agrees that it's bull**** on the field. The challenge took over 6 minutes because nobody even knows how to interpret the ******** rule. Jeff Mathis did absolutely nothing wrong. I wish that Mike Redmond was Ozzie Guillen to get a good rant after the game.

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I agree that the rule probably could use some adjustment but I'm not sure how exactly they fix it so that catchers aren't wussies

All those pads and they are still wussies? Good thing they play baseball and not football.

On a serious note though, I'm fine with the rule. Could use some tinkering but 1st, 2nd and 3rd aren't blocked so I'm ok with home plate not being blocked too.

:wacko:

Sorry, I did not mean to suggest that catchers aren't tough or that the job isn't demanding -- catching is brutal and the pads are obvious proof of that. Rather, I mean that the plate-blocking makes "less" of a requirement for toughness.

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I'm convinced people will never, ever get it.

Catchers can block the plate. You can block any base you want.

What you can't do is try to knock the ball out of the fielder's glove.

If the catcher's blocking the plate run through him, just like you should run through the 1st baseman and slide through the 2nd or 3rd baseman if they are blocking the respective base.

What you can't do is deliberately try to knock the ball out of the fielder's glove. Doesn't matter if it judo chop (ie, A-Rod), spear, or forearm shiver.

  • Unless the catcher is in possession of the ball, the catcher cannot block the pathway of the runner as he is attempting to score. If, in the judgment of the Umpire, the catcher, without possession of the ball, blocks the pathway of the runner, the Umpire shall call or signal the runner safe.

  • A runner attempting to score may not deviate from his direct pathway to the plate in order to initiate contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate). If, in the judgment of the Umpire, a runner attempting to score initiates contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate) in such a manner, the Umpire shall declare the runner out (even if the player covering home plate loses possession of the ball).

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I agree that the rule probably could use some adjustment but I'm not sure how exactly they fix it so that catchers aren't wussies

All those pads and they are still wussies? Good thing they play baseball and not football.

On a serious note though, I'm fine with the rule. Could use some tinkering but 1st, 2nd and 3rd aren't blocked so I'm ok with home plate not being blocked too.

:wacko:

Sorry, I did not mean to suggest that catchers aren't tough or that the job isn't demanding -- catching is brutal and the pads are obvious proof of that. Rather, I mean that the plate-blocking makes "less" of a requirement for toughness.

I was just being sarcastic like you were.

But that's how sports are becoming. The NFL and NHL are pretty brutal sports and the MLB is nothing compared to them. But they are making those sports softer and softer with new rules and regulations on how you can hit a person and where you can or can't hit them.

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I'm convinced people will never, ever get it.

Catchers can block the plate. You can block any base you want.

What you can't do is try to knock the ball out of the fielder's glove.

If the catcher's blocking the plate run through him, just like you should run through the 1st baseman and slide through the 2nd or 3rd baseman if they are blocking the respective base.

What you can't do is deliberately try to knock the ball out of the fielder's glove. Doesn't matter if it judo chop (ie, A-Rod), spear, or forearm shiver.

  • Unless the catcher is in possession of the ball, the catcher cannot block the pathway of the runner as he is attempting to score. If, in the judgment of the Umpire, the catcher, without possession of the ball, blocks the pathway of the runner, the Umpire shall call or signal the runner safe.

  • A runner attempting to score may not deviate from his direct pathway to the plate in order to initiate contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate). If, in the judgment of the Umpire, a runner attempting to score initiates contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate) in such a manner, the Umpire shall declare the runner out (even if the player covering home plate loses possession of the ball).

So, so wrong

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I'm convinced people will never, ever get it.

Catchers can block the plate. You can block any base you want.

What you can't do is try to knock the ball out of the fielder's glove.

If the catcher's blocking the plate run through him, just like you should run through the 1st baseman and slide through the 2nd or 3rd baseman if they are blocking the respective base.

What you can't do is deliberately try to knock the ball out of the fielder's glove. Doesn't matter if it judo chop (ie, A-Rod), spear, or forearm shiver.

  • Unless the catcher is in possession of the ball, the catcher cannot block the pathway of the runner as he is attempting to score. If, in the judgment of the Umpire, the catcher, without possession of the ball, blocks the pathway of the runner, the Umpire shall call or signal the runner safe.

  • A runner attempting to score may not deviate from his direct pathway to the plate in order to initiate contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate). If, in the judgment of the Umpire, a runner attempting to score initiates contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate) in such a manner, the Umpire shall declare the runner out (even if the player covering home plate loses possession of the ball).

So, so wrong

Read it for yourself.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140224&content_id=68268622&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mlb

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I'm convinced people will never, ever get it.

Catchers can block the plate. You can block any base you want.

What you can't do is try to knock the ball out of the fielder's glove.

If the catcher's blocking the plate run through him, just like you should run through the 1st baseman and slide through the 2nd or 3rd baseman if they are blocking the respective base.

What you can't do is deliberately try to knock the ball out of the fielder's glove. Doesn't matter if it judo chop (ie, A-Rod), spear, or forearm shiver.

  • Unless the catcher is in possession of the ball, the catcher cannot block the pathway of the runner as he is attempting to score. If, in the judgment of the Umpire, the catcher, without possession of the ball, blocks the pathway of the runner, the Umpire shall call or signal the runner safe.

  • A runner attempting to score may not deviate from his direct pathway to the plate in order to initiate contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate). If, in the judgment of the Umpire, a runner attempting to score initiates contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate) in such a manner, the Umpire shall declare the runner out (even if the player covering home plate loses possession of the ball).

So, so wrong

Read it for yourself.

http://mlb.mlb.com/n...pr_mlb&c_id=mlb

Heh. I guess I didn't know they actually made a new rule.

At least you can still block the other bases if you please.

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After the Reds take the lead, the umpire tells Bryan Morris that he agrees it's bull****. I wonder if he'll be fined or suspended for that. What a joke. It would be great if a game in the playoffs were decided this way. MLB should be embarrassed with this new rule.

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I'm convinced people will never, ever get it.

Catchers can block the plate. You can block any base you want.

What you can't do is try to knock the ball out of the fielder's glove.

If the catcher's blocking the plate run through him, just like you should run through the 1st baseman and slide through the 2nd or 3rd baseman if they are blocking the respective base.

What you can't do is deliberately try to knock the ball out of the fielder's glove. Doesn't matter if it judo chop (ie, A-Rod), spear, or forearm shiver.

  • Unless the catcher is in possession of the ball, the catcher cannot block the pathway of the runner as he is attempting to score. If, in the judgment of the Umpire, the catcher, without possession of the ball, blocks the pathway of the runner, the Umpire shall call or signal the runner safe.

  • A runner attempting to score may not deviate from his direct pathway to the plate in order to initiate contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate). If, in the judgment of the Umpire, a runner attempting to score initiates contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate) in such a manner, the Umpire shall declare the runner out (even if the player covering home plate loses possession of the ball).

So, so wrong

Read it for yourself.

http://mlb.mlb.com/n...pr_mlb&c_id=mlb

Heh. I guess I didn't know they actually made a new rule.

At least you can still block the other bases if you please.

Not really. At first depending on the circumstances it could be deemed obstruction.

The first baseman is entitled to the base IF he is in the act of catching the thrown ball. It's that dratted word again, JUDGMENT. If the umpire thinks the fielder is blocking the base without the ball, it's obstruction.

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I'm convinced people will never, ever get it.

Catchers can block the plate. You can block any base you want.

What you can't do is try to knock the ball out of the fielder's glove.

If the catcher's blocking the plate run through him, just like you should run through the 1st baseman and slide through the 2nd or 3rd baseman if they are blocking the respective base.

What you can't do is deliberately try to knock the ball out of the fielder's glove. Doesn't matter if it judo chop (ie, A-Rod), spear, or forearm shiver.

  • Unless the catcher is in possession of the ball, the catcher cannot block the pathway of the runner as he is attempting to score. If, in the judgment of the Umpire, the catcher, without possession of the ball, blocks the pathway of the runner, the Umpire shall call or signal the runner safe.

  • A runner attempting to score may not deviate from his direct pathway to the plate in order to initiate contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate). If, in the judgment of the Umpire, a runner attempting to score initiates contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate) in such a manner, the Umpire shall declare the runner out (even if the player covering home plate loses possession of the ball).

So, so wrong

Read it for yourself.

http://mlb.mlb.com/n...pr_mlb&c_id=mlb

Heh. I guess I didn't know they actually made a new rule.

At least you can still block the other bases if you please.

Not really. At first depending on the circumstances it could be deemed obstruction.

The first baseman is entitled to the base IF he is in the act of catching the thrown ball. It's that dratted word again, JUDGMENT. If the umpire thinks the fielder is blocking the base without the ball, it's obstruction.

I know. But that's if he's in the act (what I'm implying is you are given a lot of latitude to block the base)

And if he has the ball, block away.

People never make a big deal about it, but blocking the base? Happens all the time

http://m.mlb.com/vid...econd/?c_id=mlb

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The play in question (not the only play, just the one that instigated the thread)

http://m.mlb.com/vid.../?query=marlins

Makes me sick.

If your favorite team makes the playoffs, I really hope their season doesn't end because of a stupid call like this. This rule is going to look so much dumber when it screws over a team in the playoffs.

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You can block a base if you are in the act of catching the ball (except catcher) or you already have the ball. If you set up without wither of the two then it is an obstruction.

Another words a defensive player can not impede the route of the runner. If the runner per say was going 1st to 3rd on a batted ball he has a clear path to 2nd base unless the fielder is in the act or has possession already.

I think we both have the same idea, but trying to hammer out what constitutes obstruction. The catcher thing did change this year and I think will change again next year because it is to vague.

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