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Robinson Cano 2014 Outlook

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Does someone meet Cano's asking price?

Sources have informed Andrew Marchand of ESPN New York that free agent second baseman Robinson Cano is still seeking a 10-year contract worth $310 million.

That's what Cano asked of the Yankees just before this year's All-Star break. New York declined and Cano is highly doubtful to land that record-smashing sum on the open market, but it doesn't hurt to ask. The 31-year-old hit .314/.383/.516 with 27 home runs and 107 RBI in 160 games this summer. He's being represented by Roc Nation Sports and Jay-Z is expected to be intimately involved in his contract negotiations.

Source: ESPN New York

Nov 18 - 2:39 PM

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As a fantasy player I'm worried about his ethic if he gets a contract like that. I'd rather get Kipnis round 2.

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For once I want to see everyone dismiss the agents crazy demands to the point where the player is still waiting on an offer 2 weeks from ST. Then, settle. Then know not to be stupid.

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He probably knows that he won't be getting that $310 million but his agents will try to reach some "middle" ground with the Yankees and eventually end up with a $230-240 million deal which is too much anyway.

From a fantasy perspective, I really hate deals that will very likely be the last of a player's career. Just raises the incentive concern that another poster mentioned. Will he be as driven as prior years when he knows that he is guaranteed all that money? Will probably stay away because Kipnis is definitely someone I like going into next season and of course because Cano will go top 5-6.

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I have zero against Cano, and I'm sure he'll put together very good '14-'15 campaigns. BUT, I think any team willing to sign a dude north of 30 to a 200+ million dollar deal doesn't have a clue. These deals don't work out, period. You wanna argue? Look at history.

Robbie will probably play 2nd base for a couple more years and transition to 1B or DH, you can count on .300, a nice OBP, 20-30 HRs depending on park, 100/100 depending on lineup, decent D, no speed for two years. After that I don't see him being much more than an average 1B/good DH numbers wise.

My guess, Yankees will get him for 200 something million. I just don't see a team willing to pay more than them as the negotiations go on.

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Can we just talk about Jay Z being directly involved in these talks? Would it be worse than Boras?

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jay-z is his agent. no pro baseball team wants to deal with a guy who made music stories to make millions. cano isn't worth that at all. only guy in all of the MLB or even sports that might be worth that is mike trout. jay-z needs to retire from all he does or keep lying to teenagers.

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Albert Pujols signed his 10 year $240 million contract 2 years ago (prior to his age 32 season).

Albert had 3 MVP awards and 10 Top 5 finishes in MVP voting. Cano has zero MVP awards and 4 Top 5 finishes.

Cano is a perennial A.S. but he's not in the same class as Albert who is already a lock for the HOF.

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Cano reach free agency in a bad year - nobody has the money to throw at him that he's looking for, he'll go back to the Yanks but probably at 40-50M less than he would have made 1-2 years ago as an FA. I say he gets 10 year $210M from the Yankees.I bet there will be a strict void clause for any performance enhancing drug use in it as well.

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Yanks have been pretty open about not going to 10 years and I agree with them 100%. No way I lock into one guy for that long even if it's at a discount to his asking price.

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Yanks have been pretty open about not going to 10 years and I agree with them 100%. No way I lock into one guy for that long even if it's at a discount to his asking price.

Guess the Yankees learned their lesson after locking up A-Roid for 13 years...

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For once I want to see everyone dismiss the agents crazy demands to the point where the player is still waiting on an offer 2 weeks from ST. Then, settle. Then know not to be stupid.

No way. This isnt the 1960's the players have all the power. Hell get his pay. It wont be 300 million, but hell get close to, if not a bit over, 200.

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Buyer beware, you are getting a .222 career post season hitter with a .686 OPS. This guy has failed numerous times in key clutch situations. I would not even come within 150 million of his asking price if I was an MLB team. Hope teams start boycotting these stupid demands and making these players sit out or take shorter deals.

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As a Yankee fan I hope they go to 7/170 max. It kind of sounds like they're ready to play hardball too. They know he won't get $310 or anywhere close, and have signaled they aren't going to wait for him before going after other pieces. And they need a lot of pieces. If he wants more than 7 years (which I think is too many, really) or north of $200 then it's adios Robbie, and happy trails.

That said from a fantasy perspective I still think he's .310, 25+hr 100 RBI next year, and the year after, and the year after that.

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after pujols and hamiltons half a billion dollar waste more teams are not wasting money like they have. they still are so not quite as much. let roc nation and jay-z ruin this guys contract.

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Like ballfan4141 just eloquently stated, teams are going to think twice before giving out such lucrative contracts. Cano is a bimbo for asking for a $310M 10 year contract. He is most likely going to end up getting a 7 year contract for approximately $230M. I'd say theres a good chance that he ends up going to the Yankees, even though they just signed Ellsbury, since they aren't concerned about the luxury tax.

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If he signs with the Mariners, he has to fall out of round 1. While I think he probably gets drafted in round 2, I'm probably not taking him there. A 2b who doesnt steal and has a real shot to hit below 20 home runs on a bad offense? This is a pretty huge deal in fantasy. I think he becomes neck and neck with Pedroia.

In 2013 he hit 16 on the road and 11 at home

But 2012 11/22 (road/home)

2011 12/16

2010 13/16

Keep in mind though that the road was a lot better too playing in Boston, Toronto, and Baltimore

Outside of Texas, the other ballparks are awful for hitters.

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If he signs with the Mariners, he has to fall out of round 1. While I think he probably gets drafted in round 2, I'm probably not taking him there. A 2b who doesnt steal and has a real shot to hit below 20 home runs on a bad offense? This is a pretty huge deal in fantasy. I think he becomes neck and neck with Pedroia.

In 2013 he hit 16 on the road and 11 at home

But 2012 11/22 (road/home)

2011 12/16

2010 13/16

Keep in mind though that the road was a lot better too playing in Boston, Toronto, and Baltimore

Outside of Texas, the other ballparks are awful for hitters.

His career at Safeco

4 Homers in 163 Plate appearances. .309 Batting average.

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If he signs with the Mariners, he has to fall out of round 1. While I think he probably gets drafted in round 2, I'm probably not taking him there. A 2b who doesnt steal and has a real shot to hit below 20 home runs on a bad offense? This is a pretty huge deal in fantasy. I think he becomes neck and neck with Pedroia.

In 2013 he hit 16 on the road and 11 at home

But 2012 11/22 (road/home)

2011 12/16

2010 13/16

Keep in mind though that the road was a lot better too playing in Boston, Toronto, and Baltimore

Outside of Texas, the other ballparks are awful for hitters.

His career at Safeco

4 Homers in 163 Plate appearances. .309 Batting average.

His HR's likely won't take much of a dive in the newly remodeled Safeco. It seems as though the perception of an ultimate pitching park is still in play there, but that is simply no longer a reality.

HR's by Team (2013 Season):

Baltimore Orioles - 212

Seattle Mariners - 188

Oakland Athletics - 186

Toronto Blue Jays - 185

Atlanta Braves - 181

Boston Red Sox - 178

Detroit Tigers - 176

Texas Rangers - 176

Chicago Cubs - 172

Cleveland Indians - 171

Tampa Bay Rays - 165

Los Angeles Angels - 164

Pittsburgh Pirates - 161

Washington Nationals - 161

Colorado Rockies - 159

Milwaukee Brewers - 157

Cincinnati Reds - 155

Minnesota Twins - 151

Houston Astros - 148

Chicago White Sox - 148

San Diego Padres - 146

New York Yankees - 144

Philadelphia Phillies - 140

Los Angeles Dodgers - 138

Arizona Diamondbacks - 130

New York Mets - 130

St. Louis Cardinals - 125

Kansas City Royals - 112

San Francisco Giants - 107

Miami Marlins - 95

Keep in mind that the Mariner's are still a very poor offense, so that's a below average team finishing 2nd in HR's. Cano will be fine in that category, the real hit is going to come in his counting stats. 20+ HR's are nice, but too bad most of them will be solo shots.

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If he signs with the Mariners, he has to fall out of round 1. While I think he probably gets drafted in round 2, I'm probably not taking him there. A 2b who doesnt steal and has a real shot to hit below 20 home runs on a bad offense? This is a pretty huge deal in fantasy. I think he becomes neck and neck with Pedroia.

In 2013 he hit 16 on the road and 11 at home

But 2012 11/22 (road/home)

2011 12/16

2010 13/16

Keep in mind though that the road was a lot better too playing in Boston, Toronto, and Baltimore

Outside of Texas, the other ballparks are awful for hitters.

His career at Safeco

4 Homers in 163 Plate appearances. .309 Batting average.

His HR's likely won't take much of a dive in the newly remodeled Safeco. It seems as though the perception of an ultimate pitching park is still in play there, but that is simply no longer a reality.

HR's by Team (2013 Season):

Baltimore Orioles - 212

Seattle Mariners - 188

Oakland Athletics - 186

Toronto Blue Jays - 185

Atlanta Braves - 181

Boston Red Sox - 178

Detroit Tigers - 176

Texas Rangers - 176

Chicago Cubs - 172

Cleveland Indians - 171

Tampa Bay Rays - 165

Los Angeles Angels - 164

Pittsburgh Pirates - 161

Washington Nationals - 161

Colorado Rockies - 159

Milwaukee Brewers - 157

Cincinnati Reds - 155

Minnesota Twins - 151

Houston Astros - 148

Chicago White Sox - 148

San Diego Padres - 146

New York Yankees - 144

Philadelphia Phillies - 140

Los Angeles Dodgers - 138

Arizona Diamondbacks - 130

New York Mets - 130

St. Louis Cardinals - 125

Kansas City Royals - 112

San Francisco Giants - 107

Miami Marlins - 95

Keep in mind that the Mariner's are still a very poor offense, so that's a below average team finishing 2nd in HR's. Cano will be fine in that category, the real hit is going to come in his counting stats. 20+ HR's are nice, but too bad most of them will be solo shots.

I don't think a teams home run totals at home is a great indicator of a ballpark. I mean the Rockies are on the bottom half....

And while it may not be as bad as it once was, the Marine layer keeps balls in the park.

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If he signs with the Mariners, he has to fall out of round 1. While I think he probably gets drafted in round 2, I'm probably not taking him there. A 2b who doesnt steal and has a real shot to hit below 20 home runs on a bad offense? This is a pretty huge deal in fantasy. I think he becomes neck and neck with Pedroia.

In 2013 he hit 16 on the road and 11 at home

But 2012 11/22 (road/home)

2011 12/16

2010 13/16

Keep in mind though that the road was a lot better too playing in Boston, Toronto, and Baltimore

Outside of Texas, the other ballparks are awful for hitters.

His career at Safeco

4 Homers in 163 Plate appearances. .309 Batting average.

His HR's likely won't take much of a dive in the newly remodeled Safeco. It seems as though the perception of an ultimate pitching park is still in play there, but that is simply no longer a reality.

HR's by Team (2013 Season):

Baltimore Orioles - 212

Seattle Mariners - 188

Oakland Athletics - 186

Toronto Blue Jays - 185

Atlanta Braves - 181

Boston Red Sox - 178

Detroit Tigers - 176

Texas Rangers - 176

Chicago Cubs - 172

Cleveland Indians - 171

Tampa Bay Rays - 165

Los Angeles Angels - 164

Pittsburgh Pirates - 161

Washington Nationals - 161

Colorado Rockies - 159

Milwaukee Brewers - 157

Cincinnati Reds - 155

Minnesota Twins - 151

Houston Astros - 148

Chicago White Sox - 148

San Diego Padres - 146

New York Yankees - 144

Philadelphia Phillies - 140

Los Angeles Dodgers - 138

Arizona Diamondbacks - 130

New York Mets - 130

St. Louis Cardinals - 125

Kansas City Royals - 112

San Francisco Giants - 107

Miami Marlins - 95

Keep in mind that the Mariner's are still a very poor offense, so that's a below average team finishing 2nd in HR's. Cano will be fine in that category, the real hit is going to come in his counting stats. 20+ HR's are nice, but too bad most of them will be solo shots.

That's a terrible way to judge his home run potential. I know safeco moved in the fences. Buts it hard to gauge its effects at this point in time.

Anyways, I didn't elaborate before. But 163 will be about half his home plate appearances next year. Its a smallish sample size, but I personally think he is good for about 9-13 Homers at home. Since I do agree it helps a little.But not nearly as much as those stats suggest.

And I disagree is road numbers will get worse. Fenway is below average in giving up Homers, particularly to Left handed power. Houston is going to be hitter friendly to him (either the ball park or just the opposing pitchers) His road numbers should balance out in a similar fashion. His road Homers is between 11 and 16.

So I personally think his Home Runs totals will still top 20 and more. Just not expecting it in the high 20's or low 30's anymore.

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