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Does snow help or hurt a RB

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Few ways to look at this -

- Snow hurts the passing game so it's harder to sustain drives....therefore lower points scored by both teams and less scores for your rb.

- Snow slows down the game, making it easier for the defense to converge on the rb and harder for the rb to find room.

OR....

- Snow forces the team to run more...more points for the rb

- Snow makes it harder for the defender to cut with the rb and tackle him, making it easier for the rb to run.

Gonna start snowing in games soon, as early as this weekend. Thoughts?

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I have found over the years that snow has less effect on players than I originally thought. The only consistent factor seems to be WIND having a negative effect on the PASSING & KICKING games.

Now even wind/blizzards you'd then think has a positive effect on RBs. But would the other team stack the box, knowing throwing is difficult?

So I guess with QB/WR/K, there is weather they get benched in. RBs...it's a toss-up.

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if a RB is getting 20-25 carries a games, and lot of starting RB's are, they aren't going to increase his carries to 30+ because it snows. There are more likely to use the backup RB too.

by the way, why does the snow hurt the passing game ? if there is a lot of snow on the ground , slowing the run , why don't you take the shortcut by the air ?

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All snow does to a RB is make them cold.

Everyone else has to play in the same weather. If its slippery for a RB, its slippery for the guys trying to tackle him. Plus they can screw in spikes that are 7" long in the event it gets slick.

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depends a lot on the teams involved, for example, warm weather teams such as Miami traveling to new England tend to struggle more than the team used to the weather

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I will say, I do notice a certain amount of dump offs during rain, snow or windy weather, so that benefits the RB. I don't have the stats, but might be something to look into.

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Just read something on the internet about this. Probably should have searched before posting.

Some statistician did an analysis. So...apparently....the only factor that really matters is wind negatively impacting the passing game. Snow in the absence of wind doesn't have much of an effect. A lot of wind on a nice day has a significant effect. On a windy day, you can expect about a 12% decrease in passing output and 12% increase in rb output. Snow has negligible affect on running game as well.

Sounds reasonable to me.

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^ sounds about right. Last week I was nervous about the pittsburgh vs detroit game (having calvin and antonio brown), and I believe they were the top 2 WR's in what was said to be real s---y weather. It obviously has a slight effect, as I saw many people slipping, but never think about benching a stud because of weather.

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I don't think there's a hard and fast rule, some guys are mudders and can run better in adverse weather conditions and some guys run worse.

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I don't think there's a hard and fast rule, some guys are mudders and can run better in adverse weather conditions and some guys run worse.

Agreed. If their mother was a mudder and their father was a mudder, then the RB will most likely be a mudder

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I don't think there's a hard and fast rule, some guys are mudders and can run better in adverse weather conditions and some guys run worse.

Agreed. If their mother was a mudder and their father was a mudder, then the RB will most likely be a mudder

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Snow makes it harder to play. I think that is obvious. Cuts are harder to make, routes are less refined, etc.

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The only two games I started a guy in the snow in fantasy that I can really recall I got over 28 fantasy points (Ricky Williams way back when, and Fred Jackson week 16 or 17) from them. I do think it's a matter of running style; a one cut and go guy can handle it, a "mudder" type certainly can handle it, but not so sure about the guys relying on more lateral play.

Edit: actually got something like 15 points from CJ2K in the 2k year when the Titans lost to New England by like 50, but he also busted off a 50 yard td in that game. He was definitely one cutting with style back then.

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Snow makes it harder to play. I think that is obvious. Cuts are harder to make, routes are less refined, etc.

Why do you say that? Advances in cold weather footgear + artificial turf + attentiveness of stadium staff to remove snow during breaks in play has negated nearly all the poor surfaces that used to cause these problems. Unless of course you're Chicago and still use a ridiculously antiquated natural grass surface.

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Snow makes it harder to play. I think that is obvious. Cuts are harder to make, routes are less refined, etc.

Why do you say that? Advances in cold weather footgear + artificial turf + attentiveness of stadium staff to remove snow during breaks in play has negated nearly all the poor surfaces that used to cause these problems. Unless of course you're Chicago and still use a ridiculously antiquated natural grass surface.

True, plus these guys train so much and are professionals... it might not matter.

Either way, I would prefer sunshine on any day offensively.

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I would think the players who suffered the most from snow would be DBs. The WR knows his route so you'd think it would be a hell of a lot easier for him to make his cuts than for a DB to quickly react to them on a less than ideal surface. Apparently the stats don't back this up though which is interesting.

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I honestly don't think the snow has too much affect on games or players at all unless its something like a huge blizzard. The outdoor stadiums have heaters underneath the field to keep the turn as warm as possible and to keep the field in the best possible condition. It might start to get sloppy on the field late in the game with mud but overall the field should be in real good condition.

If we are looking at a blizzard then that changes things but how often do those happen?

I'm much more concerned with wind and rain than I am with snow.

On top of that, a lot of teams play indoors now and obviously those games won't be have an issue, unless this happens...

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All snow does to a RB is make them cold.

Everyone else has to play in the same weather. If its slippery for a RB, its slippery for the guys trying to tackle him. Plus they can screw in spikes that are 7" long in the event it gets slick.

In slippery conditions, the offense always has the advantage on the defense... especially running the ball, because although it is harder to cut and stop on a dime, it is EVEN harder on defense. At least on offense, you know which way you're moving. On defense, you have to react to the offense and it's harder to react in slippery conditions.

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