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2014 RB Rankings

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If you're an avid fantasy footballer you know how skewed merely looking at everyone's total fantasy points can be. Seeing who scored the most points and rank the players you want in that fashion. Anyone knows though, that if a good player wasn't given a chance to start until, say week 5, or there was missed time due to injury, he missed out on over a month of accruing fantasy points in which, he will be unusually low on the point totals. You want to consider their injury proneness but you also, want to know, injuries aside, where those RB's matchup against the RB's that played all 16 games. So this is my attempt to put everyone on level playing ground.

So out of all the RB's worth calculating, I took away any games they didn't play in at all, or got hurt in the middle of. Every game he played 4 full quarters of I tallied, and extrapolated to 16 games, because I thought this would be a much more accurate way to view the RB class for 2014. I was most interested to see where guys like Stacy and Bell, as well as Foster and Martin would go, and it's pretty interesting.

Of course this analysis is rather flawed. The less and less games they played, the flimsier the extrapolation is (particularly Martin, Foster, Vereen etc), but I thought the analysis ended up looking pretty good, and thought it might be helpful to those avid enough about Fantasy Football to be on this forum.

non-PPR

RB Rankings

1.) Jamaal Charles----------328.5 (Extrapolated from 15 games)

2.) LeSean McCoy----------278.6

3.) Matt Forte----------------263.3

4.) Adrian Peterson---------248.6 (Extrapolated from 13 games)

5.) DeMarco Murray--------240.3 (Extrapolated from 13 games)

6.) Marshawn Lynch--------239.3

7.) Knowshon Moreno------236.6

8.) Eddie Lacy---------------236 (Extrapolated from 14 games)

9.) Arian Foster--------------227.7 (Extrapolated from 6 games)

10.) Reggie Bush-----------211.7 (Extrapolated from 14 games)

11.) Le'Veon Bell-----------211.6 (Extrapolated from 13 games)

12.) Zac Stacy---------------209.3 (Extrapolated from 12 games)

13.) Chris Johnson----------198.2

14.) Ryan Mathews----------195.8 (Extrapolated from 15 games)

15.) Fred Jackson-----------188.3

16.) Shane Vereen----------175 (Extrapolated from 8 games)

17.) Frank Gore--------------174.9

18.) Alfred Morris------------169.3

19.) Giovani Bernard-------166.9

20.) Joique Bell--------------163.7

21.) Doug Martin------------162.6 (Extrapolated from 5 games)

22.) Steven Jackson--------158 (Extrapolated from 11)

23.) Maurice Jones-Drew----153.6 (Extrapolated from 15 games)

24.) Danny Woodhead--------147.4

25.) Andre Brown-----------147 (Extrapolated from 8 games)

26.) Rashad Jennings-------138.5

27.) DeAngelo Williams-----137.6

28.) Pierre Thomas*********134.2

29.) CJ Spiller------------129.3 (Extrapolated from 15 games)

30.) Ray Rice--------------128.1 (Extrapolated from 15 games)

31.) Andre Ellington-------126.3

32.) Rashard Mendenhall----126.1

33.) Donald Brown----------123.1

34.) LeGarrette Blount-----119

35.) Stevan Ridley---------117.5

36.) Benjarvus Green-Ellis-115.8

37.) Ben Tate-----------------111.1

38.) Trent Richardson-------109.9

39.) Chris Ivory---------------109.1

40.) Bilal Powell--------------104.1

41.) Darren Sproles---------102.4

42.) Lamar Miller-------------97.9

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Guys like Jennings and Bell's stats are still skewed. They were the backup for the majority of the season, and only got a point to shine either later in the season or when the starter finally got hurt. So their numbers are being credited for a full 16 games despite only getting significant playing time in only a handful of games.

Jennings was a top 5-10 back after taking over the starting role, and Bell had similar rankings when Bush was injured or benched.

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Guys like Jennings and Bell's stats are still skewed. They were the backup for the majority of the season, and only got a point to shine either later in the season or when the starter finally got hurt. So their numbers are being credited for a full 16 games despite only getting significant playing time in only a handful of games.

Jennings was a top 5-10 back after taking over the starting role, and Bell had similar rankings when Bush was injured or benched.

true. It's hard to predict Jennings or Bell period. I suppose one could project the games where they were the starter, especially Jennings. That Oakland backfield is difficult. And the Raiders are also hyping their new young guy as their projected starter for 2014.

Bell is wierd. He really only started two games, but was a productive backup RB. I think where his ranking is, is about right, maybe a little high. And a new regime leaves questions.

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I was surprised to see how well Foster was actually doing before he went down. He likely would have still been a top10 back. He'll be an interesting bounce back candidate...especially if he puts together a healthy camp/preseason.

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Goes like this for me for next year. Just my personal opinion

Charles

Mccoy

Lynch

Ap

Forte

Lacy

Morris

Bell

Murray

Bush

Spiller

Martin

G beonard

Gore

Stacy

Ellington

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Goes like this for me for next year. Just my personal opinion

Charles

Mccoy

Lynch

Ap

Forte

Lacy

Morris

Bell

Murray

Bush

Spiller

Martin

G beonard

Gore

Stacy

Ellington

You're really digging Freddy Morris, it will be interesting to see how Jay runs the offense, and no Foster love? Analysis aside, here are my personal rankings:

McCoy

Charles (McCoy/Charles interchangeable)

AP

Forte

Lacy

Lynch

Bell

Stacy

Murray

Martin

Foster

Gio

Bush

Gore

Moreno

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Goes like this for me for next year. Just my personal opinion

Charles

Mccoy

Lynch

Ap

Forte

Lacy

Morris

Bell

Murray

Bush

Spiller

Martin

G beonard

Gore

Stacy

Ellington

You're really digging Freddy Morris, it will be interesting to see how Jay runs the offense, and no Foster love? Analysis aside, here are my personal rankings:

McCoy

Charles (McCoy/Charles interchangeable)

AP

Forte

Lacy

Lynch

Bell

Stacy

Murray

Martin

Foster

Gio

Bush

Gore

Moreno

I like this list much better, with the exception of Moreno. I still don't think he'll resign with Denver. So essentially just plug Ball into his spot.

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I like this list much better, with the exception of Moreno. I still don't think he'll resign with Denver. So essentially just plug Ball into his spot.

I'm not a huge Moreno fan, myself. I was mulling over who I wanted to to rank 15th. I mean he had a top5 year so for the time being he should be around that range. You don't think Moreno will be in Denver next year? If that were the case Montee would def skyrocket.

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I like this list much better, with the exception of Moreno. I still don't think he'll resign with Denver. So essentially just plug Ball into his spot.

I'm not a huge Moreno fan, myself. I was mulling over who I wanted to to rank 15th. I mean he had a top5 year so for the time being he should be around that range. You don't think Moreno will be in Denver next year? If that were the case Montee would def skyrocket.

Not when they have Decker and other more important free agents to sign. It would be wasted money in my opinion because Ball is equally as talented (if not more so) than Moreno. All Moreno had over Ball this last season was the ability to pass protect and ball security. Moreno himself had ball security issues early in his career and was able to remedy the situation. I see the same thing happening with Ball next season, as well as working hard on pass protection this off-season to improve both areas.

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Not when they have Decker and other more important free agents to sign. It would be wasted money in my opinion because Ball is equally as talented (if not more so) than Moreno. All Moreno had over Ball this last season was the ability to pass protect and ball security. Moreno himself had ball security issues early in his career and was able to remedy the situation. I see the same thing happening with Ball next season, as well as working hard on pass protection this off-season to improve both areas.

I didn't realize Moreno was a free agent this offseason. That would make sense, as Denver should know that this offense more brought Moreno his top-5 statline, rather than his talent. If this happened, where do you think Ball ranks? He would be entering an incredible situation, yet still being very unproven, and a fumbler that struggles to pass block. I'd totally be on board with Ball but it would have to be at the right price.

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Not when they have Decker and other more important free agents to sign. It would be wasted money in my opinion because Ball is equally as talented (if not more so) than Moreno. All Moreno had over Ball this last season was the ability to pass protect and ball security. Moreno himself had ball security issues early in his career and was able to remedy the situation. I see the same thing happening with Ball next season, as well as working hard on pass protection this off-season to improve both areas.

I didn't realize Moreno was a free agent this offseason. That would make sense, as Denver should know that this offense more brought Moreno his top-5 statline, rather than his talent. If this happened, where do you think Ball ranks? He would be entering an incredible situation, yet still being very unproven, and a fumbler that struggles to pass block. I'd totally be on board with Ball but it would have to be at the right price.

Rotoworld will hype him up and he'll go in the late 1st or 2nd round. I see no reason why he couldn't finish top 10 based on that offense, but if feels way too David Wilson like.

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Rotoworld will hype him up and he'll go in the late 1st or 2nd round. I see no reason why he couldn't finish top 10 based on that offense, but if feels way too David Wilson like.

Seriously. If he vaulted that high, no way I go for him. He's still very unproven, and could fumble his way out of a job (a-la David Wilson, like you refer to), or fail to pass block well enough to earn the job. I like him to develop this offseason and be that top10 RB if Moreno goes, but I'm not going to bank on it that early in my draft. if he falls to at least the 3rd round because he's so unproven, is when I'd even THINK to go for him. 4th round? now were talking, but that's just not going to happen if they let Moreno go.

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1 McCoy 2 Peterson 3 Lynch 4 Charles 5 Forte 6 Eddie Lacy 7 Spiller 8 Moreno 9 Foster 10 Bush 11 Steven Jackson 12 Le'Von Bell 13 Ben Tate 14 Zac Stacy 15 Giovanni Bernard

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What do you guys think about Bush/Bell? I've been a huge Bell advocate since 2012 season, guy needs to be a starter... I expected the Lions to go with a 60/40 timeshare next year to preserve Reggie's health but more importantly finally utilize Bell which they've only done when Reggie is injured. I plan to skip Bush and draft Bell regardless if I have to reach a round early to get him in the mid rounds. Bell puts up big points with very few touches.. And if Reggie gets injured.. You just got a RB1 in the 7th-9th round... Thoughts?

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1 McCoy 2 Peterson 3 Lynch 4 Charles 5 Forte 6 Eddie Lacy 7 Spiller 8 Moreno 9 Foster 10 Bush 11 Steven Jackson 12 Le'Von Bell 13 Ben Tate 14 Zac Stacy 15 Giovanni Bernard

I'm definitely taking Le'Veon before Spiller, Bush, and Steven Jackson. As long as FJax and Joique are still around I can't see Spiller and Bush getting the 20+ carries Le'Veon gets every game. Although Le'Veon only averages around 3 catches a game where Bush/Spiller would be closer to 5

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1 McCoy 2 Peterson 3 Lynch 4 Charles 5 Forte 6 Eddie Lacy 7 Spiller 8 Moreno 9 Foster 10 Bush 11 Steven Jackson 12 Le'Von Bell 13 Ben Tate 14 Zac Stacy 15 Giovanni Bernard

I'm definitely taking Le'Veon before Spiller, Bush, and Steven Jackson. As long as FJax and Joique are still around I can't see Spiller and Bush getting the 20+ carries Le'Veon gets every game. Although Le'Veon only averages around 3 catches a game where Bush/Spiller would be closer to 5

Don't disagree you but I think Whiz sign with Loins and bush we'll be his cow bell back until injury Spiller I think he takes over this year like rice McGahee combo and Sjax is just based on TDs On bell I think steelers draft a big body WR and bell will lose his touches

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What do you guys think about Bush/Bell? I've been a huge Bell advocate since 2012 season, guy needs to be a starter... I expected the Lions to go with a 60/40 timeshare next year to preserve Reggie's health but more importantly finally utilize Bell which they've only done when Reggie is injured. I plan to skip Bush and draft Bell regardless if I have to reach a round early to get him in the mid rounds. Bell puts up big points with very few touches.. And if Reggie gets injured.. You just got a RB1 in the 7th-9th round... Thoughts?

Completely agree, although I don't think Bell will last past the 8th round. J. Bell and F. Jackson are similar to me -- older backs who are productive, yet get overlooked by the offseason hype machines for their younger counterparts -- until the season starts.

Problems with Bush:

1. Fumbler, 2. Too-Megatron dependent, 3. Injury-prone, 4. Timeshare with Bell

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What do you guys think about Bush/Bell? I've been a huge Bell advocate since 2012 season, guy needs to be a starter... I expected the Lions to go with a 60/40 timeshare next year to preserve Reggie's health but more importantly finally utilize Bell which they've only done when Reggie is injured. I plan to skip Bush and draft Bell regardless if I have to reach a round early to get him in the mid rounds. Bell puts up big points with very few touches.. And if Reggie gets injured.. You just got a RB1 in the 7th-9th round... Thoughts?

Completely agree, although I don't think Bell will last past the 8th round. J. Bell and F. Jackson are similar to me -- older backs who are productive, yet get overlooked by the offseason hype machines for their younger counterparts -- until the season starts.

Problems with Bush:

1. Fumbler, 2. Too-Megatron dependent, 3. Injury-prone, 4. Timeshare with Bell

What if I told you Bell was younger than Bush?

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What do you guys think about Bush/Bell? I've been a huge Bell advocate since 2012 season, guy needs to be a starter... I expected the Lions to go with a 60/40 timeshare next year to preserve Reggie's health but more importantly finally utilize Bell which they've only done when Reggie is injured. I plan to skip Bush and draft Bell regardless if I have to reach a round early to get him in the mid rounds. Bell puts up big points with very few touches.. And if Reggie gets injured.. You just got a RB1 in the 7th-9th round... Thoughts?

Completely agree, although I don't think Bell will last past the 8th round. J. Bell and F. Jackson are similar to me -- older backs who are productive, yet get overlooked by the offseason hype machines for their younger counterparts -- until the season starts.

Problems with Bush:

1. Fumbler, 2. Too-Megatron dependent, 3. Injury-prone, 4. Timeshare with Bell

What if I told you Bell was younger than Bush?

Cool :). Makes me want to think about drafting him in 5th or 6th rd.

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What do you guys think about Bush/Bell? I've been a huge Bell advocate since 2012 season, guy needs to be a starter... I expected the Lions to go with a 60/40 timeshare next year to preserve Reggie's health but more importantly finally utilize Bell which they've only done when Reggie is injured. I plan to skip Bush and draft Bell regardless if I have to reach a round early to get him in the mid rounds. Bell puts up big points with very few touches.. And if Reggie gets injured.. You just got a RB1 in the 7th-9th round... Thoughts?

Completely agree, although I don't think Bell will last past the 8th round. J. Bell and F. Jackson are similar to me -- older backs who are productive, yet get overlooked by the offseason hype machines for their younger counterparts -- until the season starts.

Problems with Bush:

1. Fumbler, 2. Too-Megatron dependent, 3. Injury-prone, 4. Timeshare with Bell

What if I told you Bell was younger than Bush?

Let's remember that there's gonna be a new staff in here that could change things. But it looked like, Detroit is at least in the process of learning to not overuse Bush to keep him healthy enough to last the whole year, and let Bell have whatever's left of the workload. And assuming that Bush is going to go very high next year, I definitely would rather nab Bell later and pass on Bush, but neither look terribly appealing to me in standard. If it's PPR i'll take my chances with Bush, but in standard I might avoid this backfield altogether unless Bell really falls, which I don't think will happen.

I agree, I like Bell, he's a good player, definitely starting caliber, but my hunch is that Detroit makes sure not to overuse bush next year so that they can ride their precious tandem all season. And with Bush in the lineup Bell was maddeningly inconsistent. The few times I tried starting him when I needed him he failed miserably, only to light it up on my bench when I didn't need him. Love Bell as a player, and this is a talented tandem-- but not jumping on either next year.

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I will be drafting J.Bell no matter what. I think he is easily a weekly PPR flex play even with a 60/40 Bush time share. Obviously there will be weeks he puts up duds but those will be vs. bad match ups. Even when Reggie was healthy, I started Joique during any DET matchup that would be a blowout and it paid dividends. Last two years I drafted him and just prayed Reggie would go down... Lol. He will be my first or second pick after QB, 2 RBs, and 3 WRs

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There are really only 6 top rbs that can finish #1 in my opinion.

For me

Tier 1

Charles

McCoy

AP

Lacy

Lynch

Forte

After this, there is a significant drop off. If I have a top 6 pick, I am taking a rb, after that, not so sure

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What do you guys think about Bush/Bell? I've been a huge Bell advocate since 2012 season, guy needs to be a starter... I expected the Lions to go with a 60/40 timeshare next year to preserve Reggie's health but more importantly finally utilize Bell which they've only done when Reggie is injured. I plan to skip Bush and draft Bell regardless if I have to reach a round early to get him in the mid rounds. Bell puts up big points with very few touches.. And if Reggie gets injured.. You just got a RB1 in the 7th-9th round... Thoughts?

Completely agree, although I don't think Bell will last past the 8th round. J. Bell and F. Jackson are similar to me -- older backs who are productive, yet get overlooked by the offseason hype machines for their younger counterparts -- until the season starts.

Problems with Bush:

1. Fumbler, 2. Too-Megatron dependent, 3. Injury-prone, 4. Timeshare with Bell

What if I told you Bell was younger than Bush?

Let's remember that there's gonna be a new staff in here that could change things. But it looked like, Detroit is at least in the process of learning to not overuse Bush to keep him healthy enough to last the whole year, and let Bell have whatever's left of the workload. And assuming that Bush is going to go very high next year, I definitely would rather nab Bell later and pass on Bush, but neither look terribly appealing to me in standard. If it's PPR i'll take my chances with Bush, but in standard I might avoid this backfield altogether unless Bell really falls, which I don't think will happen.

I agree, I like Bell, he's a good player, definitely starting caliber, but my hunch is that Detroit makes sure not to overuse bush next year so that they can ride their precious tandem all season. And with Bush in the lineup Bell was maddeningly inconsistent. The few times I tried starting him when I needed him he failed miserably, only to light it up on my bench when I didn't need him. Love Bell as a player, and this is a talented tandem-- but not jumping on either next year.

I agree that staff could change things, but if anything I would expect staff to implement close to even timeshare similar to keep Bush healthy like you said.

I'm definitely not avoiding Bell but will avoid Bush this year. Bell has about the highest injury upside of any "back up" RB in fantasy football today. If Bush goes down he becomes an immediate RB1 PPR gem and I think that definitely deserves a roster spot.

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Morris- afraid and confused. Gruden SAYS he likes read option, but he did run a rbbc in cincy, although talents obviously different Skins D has to resign Hall and Okrapo to big significant money...........or get worse...........somehow the D getting worse is possible.

Ivory- I want to here non stop injury talk cause I am in on this guy. Work load galore an the JETS O has only one direction to go.

Bell- Love the guy. Not sure about coaching staff though. Whisenhunt favored matthews more as the year progress.....but that was half to keep the D off the field and the chargers didn't have megatron.

Toddman- if he is Jags starter would pay for. again the O has only one direction to go. and Gus is such a Defensive guy he might keep games closer meaning more runs.

AD- the guy I hope to get 1st round for maybe a 4th-6th pick???? number 1 guy is a lock to disappoint regardless of who he is or the year........it is just stats. I love JC, but I would bet my kidneys on him not being the number 1 next year. It just doesn't happen.

CJ- he is activating his hater magnet again like few else can(his own fault)and that means low price. Luckily being whiny or super easy to hate on doesn't affect fantasy i.e deasean jackson. New surroundings might do him good. if it is still the titans then I am less excited with greene likely to be healthy this year.

MJD- his price was pretty high for my taste last year so we will see this year, but he got better was the year went on and he played himself into shape.

Lynch- big fan of his.......but he seem due or something. Even rice who was famously never hurt got hurt. Price is sky high. His cieling and floor are very close for the year though so that is atractive.

Foster- i avoided him in 14 of 14 leagues last year. some reason against my brain I am drawn this year. maybe surgery and time of will do him good.If I draft I expect the bottom to fall out of his price. Not paying top dollar for him though.

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