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Kenny Stills 2014 Season Outlook

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Stills was one of my breakout candidates for 2014. He has a chance to become the #2 or at worst #3 option in Drew Brees' high powdered offense.

Kenny Stills is expected to take on a bigger role in the wake of Lance Moore's release.

Stills already earned a surprisingly sizable role as a fifth-round rookie, playing on 708-of-1154 snaps (61.3 percent) and posting a 32-641-5 line. But he was just sixth on the team in targets with 51 (3.18 per game), a number that will naturally rise with Moore and Darren Sproles gone. Stills is a naturally exceptional playmaker capable of both deep routes and the quick-hitting routes Moore ran. His Dynasty arrow is pointing straight up.

With recent releases, and Pierre Thomas potentially becoming another casualty, his 2014 stock is quickly on the rise.

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Hard to say. Brees is always good at spreading the wealth. Colston has been the only WR there to put up consistent fantasy numbers, though even he can be inconsistent. I have him on my target list though, so long as the price isn't too steep. Hopefully the hype machine doesn't ramp up.

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Unless NO signs or drafts a big name WR, Stills for sure is going to be hyped up by the experts heading into 2014 drafts - the loss of LMoore, Sproles, & possibly PThomas all but assures this. However, there will be so many other 2nd or 3rd year WR for the experts to hype (CPatterson, KAllen, KWright, TWilliams, DHopkins, MJones, RRandle, MWheaton, etc.) that Stills should get lost a bit in the shuffle. I believe that he can be more than just a deep threat. Nice guy to target for 2014 in my opinion.

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Hard to say. Brees is always good at spreading the wealth. Colston has been the only WR there to put up consistent fantasy numbers, though even he can be inconsistent. I have him on my target list though, so long as the price isn't too steep. Hopefully the hype machine doesn't ramp up.

Unless NO signs or drafts a big name WR, Stills for sure is going to be hyped up by the experts heading into 2014 drafts - the loss of LMoore, Sproles, & possibly PThomas all but assures this. However, there will be so many other 2nd or 3rd year WR for the experts to hype (CPatterson, KAllen, KWright, TWilliams, DHopkins, MJones, RRandle, MWheaton, etc.) that Stills should get lost a bit in the shuffle. I believe that he can be more than just a deep threat. Nice guy to target for 2014 in my opinion.

I agree with both of these sentiments. Ideally you'll draft him as a WR4, but I think he'll produce at a WR2/3 capacity with serious blowup potential.

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Hard to say. Brees is always good at spreading the wealth. Colston has been the only WR there to put up consistent fantasy numbers, though even he can be inconsistent. I have him on my target list though, so long as the price isn't too steep. Hopefully the hype machine doesn't ramp up.

Unless NO signs or drafts a big name WR, Stills for sure is going to be hyped up by the experts heading into 2014 drafts - the loss of LMoore, Sproles, & possibly PThomas all but assures this. However, there will be so many other 2nd or 3rd year WR for the experts to hype (CPatterson, KAllen, KWright, TWilliams, DHopkins, MJones, RRandle, MWheaton, etc.) that Stills should get lost a bit in the shuffle. I believe that he can be more than just a deep threat. Nice guy to target for 2014 in my opinion.

I agree with both of these sentiments. Ideally you'll draft him as a WR4, but I think he'll produce at a WR2/3 capacity with serious blowup potential.

That's exactly right. With the loss of the players I mentioned above, plus Colston slowing down and team's likely to try and stop JGraham at all costs, Stills could blow-up in a big way in 2014. As a point of comparison, he could certainly produce a season similar to TY Hilton 2013 - with more TD.

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I think he'll have a season similar to Lance Moore in 2012. 60/70 catches, 1000/1100 yards, 5-8 TDs with ability to do more. I expect the saints to draft/add a WR and pass catching back but as of now stills is number 3 option in a top 3 passing offense in a dome. High upside for hopefully a low price. Ill target as a low WR 3/high 4

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The one thing you can always count on with the Saints is their deep ball guy will always be inconsistent. I just don't see him being the guy that gets the boost from Moore and Sproles departure.

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Maybe he'll get a bigger piece of the pie now that he'll be forced higher on the depth chart instead of trying to have to earn it. This is a kind of guy I can spend a late round flier on and wouldn't mind it for the dividends it could pay.

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Hard to say. Brees is always good at spreading the wealth. Colston has been the only WR there to put up consistent fantasy numbers, though even he can be inconsistent. I have him on my target list though, so long as the price isn't too steep. Hopefully the hype machine doesn't ramp up.

when does the hype machine ever not ramp up?

you have to be on a team like the jags or raiders for that to happen.

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NO is going to a more ball -control offense supposedly, which would slightly lower my expectations for Stills.I Iike the TY and Lance Moore comparisons from 2013 though, fair projections.

PS why is this so hard to type in this forum..I spent more time deleting/retyping than anything

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I understand they want to go more ball control with running more, but who in the world is going to be the RB to accomplish that? I do not see any RB on their roster from last year that screams out consistent RB. There best 2 RB's from last year, Sproles and Thomas will be gone for next season from what everyone is saying. Not that I think you could have been a ball control team with either of those 2. It's nice to say you want to be a ball control team, but if you want to do that, you better have at least 1 good RB who can shoulder that load. I don't see it so far.

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I understand they want to go more ball control with running more, but who in the world is going to be the RB to accomplish that? I do not see any RB on their roster from last year that screams out consistent RB. There best 2 RB's from last year, Sproles and Thomas will be gone for next season from what everyone is saying. Not that I think you could have been a ball control team with either of those 2. It's nice to say you want to be a ball control team, but if you want to do that, you better have at least 1 good RB who can shoulder that load. I don't see it so far.

Robinson is a pure runner.

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I like Robinson.. and dare I say it but Ingram looked good down the stretch and in the playoffs

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They quietly let Joe Morgan go, so as of now Stills has the downfield role all to himself. Normally the Saints have two players split that role.

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If the Saints don't use a high draft pick on a WR next week, then Stills is really going to rocket up my draft board. Colston had his worst pro season in 2013, turns 31 in June, and could really be slowing down after 9 years in the league & numerous leg/knee surgeries over the years. His separation skills could be sapped and the bottom could really fall out for Colston this season.

Maybe Still turns out to be a deep pass, one-trick WR but it doesn't look like you will have to burn an early pick to find out (he went in rd 12 of a recent CBS Sports Fantasy 12 team, 16 rd mock draft).

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/story/24517813/offseason-extra-12-team-fantasy-mock-draft

The upside is pretty huge in that he very well could be the #2 receiving threat (after JGraham) on a team that is historically one of the best (if not the best) passing offenses in NFL history.

https://fantasyindex.com/2014/04/22/factoid/new-orleans-saints

So much to like about Stills for 2014, especially at his current draft price.

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Stills and Hopkins are the best late round WR targets, IMO. I hope to get at least one or the other on all of my teams this year.

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What about the other extremely talented receivers on this depth chart such as Robert Meachem, Nick Toon (is this seriously his name?), and Joe Morgan? Any chance they exceed expectations and end up...not tripping on their own shoelaces?

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The Saints WRs are very difficult to project in 2014. The WRs' share of the Saints total targets hit bottom last season depressed in significant part by Colston's inability to get separation in man coverage, Moore's erosion of skills, Graham's effectiveness, RB receptions, and in late season an increase in reliance on the rushing game. There is a huge opportunity for Stills if his game continues to improve and he figures to continue to be a very inexpensive flier, but, with the likely addition of a talented rookie WR and increased reliance on the rushing attack I'm not sure 2014 figures to be a breakout year for him. He should be cheap enough to land on a team or 2 of mine but he's not someone I plan to target.

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Everybody's focused on Cooks, so we can still get Stills on the cheap. Cooks is the shiny new toy, but Stills has already established himself with Brees. Will pick up Stills on the cheap Rnd 9/10. Lot of upside for cheap.

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Most of experts are not sold on Stills talent.

Someone can explain me why ?

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Have no idea.

20 yards a catch last year with 5 TD's on only 30 odd receptions. Going into his second year with one of the best QB's in the league, Sproles has left and Colsten potentially in a state of decline if last year was not an anomaly. I guess the concern is that Cooks might see more snaps?

Hope noise levels stay low, Im happy to pick him up as a late round lotto ticket.

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Have no idea.

20 yards a catch last year with 5 TD's on only 30 odd receptions. Going into his second year with one of the best QB's in the league, Sproles has left and Colsten potentially in a state of decline if last year was not an anomaly. I guess the concern is that Cooks might see more snaps?

Hope noise levels stay low, Im happy to pick him up as a late round lotto ticket.

Cooks should play in the slot leaving #2 duties to Stills. When teams decide to shut down Graham, I'm hoping Brees starts looking to Kenny more often. He's still one of my biggest sleepers this season. The addition of Cooks in the draft should keep his stock quite low.

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He's going to be one of my flex targets. Just make sure you're team is solid enough to absorb the 1/20/0 weeks because you'll love the 5/130/2 weeks.

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Most of experts are not sold on Stills talent.

Someone can explain me why ?

While I can see where people are coming from when they talk of his upside, I see a gadget / role player only unfortunately. I could very well be proven wrong, but I see Robert Meachem 2. The following is just my thoughts on him.

I think there is a reason he was a 5th round pick. He was solid at Oklahoma, but in college, especially the Big 12 AKA Passer's Paradise you gotta just be killing it IMO. He wasn't, but he was solid.

Here is Stills' game log last year: http://espn.go.com/n...16/kenny-stills

Here is Robert Meachem's the year before he got paid by San Diego and flamed out: http://espn.go.com/n.../robert-meachem

I see a lot of similarities in the 2. Both are very fast vertical route runners that stretch the field.

His 12 team PPR ADP is mid to late 10th right now, and I get that the value is definitely there if you see more than Robert Meachem, but I don't. I believe this is Sean Payton's offense and this is how he wants it. He found a younger Robert Meachem in Kenny Stills. I get the argument that will come up will be something like, "It's his first year, of course he's going to get better, and he's catching passes from Drew Brees".

But put it in the context with Robert Meachem. He had the same guy throwing him the football, He was a 1st round pick who was supposed to turn the corner every year and elevate to something greater, he's just as fast as Stills (sub 4.4), and he's 2" taller than Stills.

I owned Robert Meachem before (2011 - contract year) because I saw what everyone currently sees in Stills. He lost me MUCH more games than he won me, and of course he'd always have a 15+ point game after he put up a dud the week before so he sat on my bench when he was destroying it and laying eggs in my lineup when I would start him.

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Kenny Stills finished last year 32/641/5. I think his ceiling would be maybe 20 more catches/200 more yards this year, but its unlikely. I wouldnt be surprised if he score closer to 10 tds though. That is if he improves as a home run hitter.

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