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Sergio Santos 2014 Outlook

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Everyone remembers the Jays reacquiring Santos after being converted succesfully and bred into a CL role by the ChiSox 2-3 yrs back before being dealt to the Jays, only to get hurt immediately after he had tossed 5 or 6 innings in 2012 (at most) after opening the yr as CL. Enter Casey Janssen.

Then last year I know he went on to have a shortened, but very nice season (whether it being due to recovery time or another injury- I don't remember quite honestly, but do remember he didn't put in a full year by any means), with having just about 30 innings to work with (or less?) and still managing a nice rebound season season as mid-late innings inning option IIRC, and he even had a handful of holds maybe, too; but his great ratios was the most encouraging thing that stood out once he was healthy. I have heard he's hitting 95 w/ regularity this spring or higher, but am unsure if I can find and cite that source again (link expired). If anyone can, I'd appreciate that..

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Anyway, he hasn't pitched a lot this year, but that may be to keep him healthy- or he may have thrown more since the last RW update.. he was dealing with an intestinal issue or flu or something, but threw on the 14th according to the last RW update (scoreless inning in a GF league game, his 2nd pitched only due to the intestinal issues that kept him out of action).

If he has been pitching all the while since and is catching up or can catch up by the time the season kicks off, despite this being one of the seasons his salary is quite low before he becomes a natural buyout candidate unless they feel like going year-to-year or dealing him (should he have a crazy year or something, since the option buyouts are on a year-to-year basis and remain at 750k per season, with his salary only increasing each of the next 3 seasons i *think*).

I would gamble on the chance Janssen may not be ready for opening day, even though we all saw this same charade last spring and he was a top closer either way. That said, Santos was signed and brought over to close and if they have a chance to put him there, i think he's next in line for sure now that he is healthy. He also did have some really nice stats least season in time when healthy or once back, whichever was the case. Even if Janssen begins the yr just fine & in the CL role, Santos SHOULD be next in line in instance of injury (unless he goes down- again- which is why these buyouts are there I'm guessing.. good looking out by the Jays on that one*).... and if he begins the year in the role, who's to say what winds up happening? Everyone still brings up Janseen and how he isn't the "prototypical closer" or whatever in spite of his success in recent years... or people were talking about it on the forums over the off-season still. Maybe he resumes setting up, at least for a year. Doesn't hurt the Jays can go year-to-year on the same price for the buyout and next year is the cheapest salary of his final 3 seasons, he would earn if kept, I believe. Maybe showcase him for a July trade?.... if he takes the job & runs anyhow.

anyway, eyeball Santos in your drafts- $1 pick and could be the CL to begin the yr while Janssen is going to be valued much higher and may wind up on the DL to start off, who knows..... as said- this is how he handled s/t last spring as well, but there's always the chance he doesn't make it in time for opening day and is legitimately having some issues. Definitely file Santos' name away. I was surprised no one has spoken of him or made a thread yet unless the search kept missing it?

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I would gamble on the chance Janssen may not be ready for opening day

Santos SHOULD be next in line in instance of injury

Great post. I've highlighted the two key points.

Janssen has been excellent as the Jays closer over the last two years, he will start the year in that role if he's healthy and in game shape. That's the big issue right now, is that last I checked, he hasn't pitched in a spring training game yet.

You said Santos SHOULD be next in line. Instead, you should've said Santos IS next in line. People who don't watch the Jays could get deceived by things like Delabar and Cecil making the All-Star team last year. They, as well as guys like Neil Wagner, are behind Santos on the depth chart.

He has closer stuff, and he's next in line, but he's going to need something to happen to Janssen first. Stash him in deeper (14+ team) leagues, he should be a top handcuff this year.

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Love Sergio Santos this year.

Hate the RW Sergio Santos Thread title.

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Seriously, compose your thoughts. Good points in here buy holy cow, it's War and Peace

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Sergio Santos to start the season as the closer in Toronto as Jannsen went on the DL.

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Sergio Santos to start the season as the closer in Toronto as Jannsen went on the DL.

Just added him. Thanks for the intel brother. Here's hoping he can take it and run with it.

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Sergio Santos to start the season as the closer in Toronto as Jannsen went on the DL.

This was the post that get me Santos. I'd buy you a beer if I could.

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Sergio Santos to start the season as the closer in Toronto as Jannsen went on the DL.

This was the post that get me Santos. I'd buy you a beer if I could.

Until Delebar is named :lol:?

Look, it's likely Santos. But nothing's been confirmed yet. We need to be careful how we word things.

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Sergio Santos to start the season as the closer in Toronto as Jannsen went on the DL.

This was the post that get me Santos. I'd buy you a beer if I could.

Until Delebar is named :lol:?

Look, it's likely Santos. But nothing's been confirmed yet. We need to be careful how we word things.

GM Alex Anthopoulos confirmed that Sergio Santos will be the Blue Jays closer during Casey Janssen's absence.

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Sergio Santos to start the season as the closer in Toronto as Jannsen went on the DL.

This was the post that get me Santos. I'd buy you a beer if I could.

Until Delebar is named :lol:?

Look, it's likely Santos. But nothing's been confirmed yet. We need to be careful how we word things.

Blue Jays general manager Alex Anthopoulos confirmed Sunday that Sergio Santos will serve as the team's closer while Casey Janssen is sidelined.

Fantasy owners who came up short on saves during drafts should rush to the waiver wire or rev up those FAAB engines, as Santos has the ability and opportunity to run away with this job. He posted a 1.75 ERA, 0.58 WHIP and 28/4 K/BB ratio over 25 2/3 innings with the Jays in 2013.

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If Janssen comes back healthy would they take the job away from him? I'd doubt it.

Janssen is probably going to miss 14 days. Santos would be lucky to get 4 save opportunities in that time span. To take away Janssen's job because Santos saved something like 4 games would be HILARIOUS.

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If Janssen comes back healthy would they take the job away from him? I'd doubt it.

Janssen is probably going to miss 14 days. Santos would be lucky to get 4 save opportunities in that time span. To take away Janssen's job because Santos saved something like 4 games would be HILARIOUS.

Exactly. It's going to take more than a short DL stint for Janssen to lose his job. Santos is a short-term add only at this point.

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If Janssen comes back healthy would they take the job away from him? I'd doubt it.

Janssen is probably going to miss 14 days. Santos would be lucky to get 4 save opportunities in that time span. To take away Janssen's job because Santos saved something like 4 games would be HILARIOUS.

Exactly. It's going to take more than a short DL stint for Janssen to lose his job. Santos is a short-term add only at this point.

And if after the 15 days and it gets switched to 30 days on the D/L then you can say well it is only a short term till he comes back.

Not saying it will happen that way. But looking back at Cory Hart was supposed to be back the 2nd week, end of the month, by the ASB, and so forth. Next thing you know he is playing for SEA this year and never played last year.

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If Janssen comes back healthy would they take the job away from him? I'd doubt it.

Janssen is probably going to miss 14 days. Santos would be lucky to get 4 save opportunities in that time span. To take away Janssen's job because Santos saved something like 4 games would be HILARIOUS.

Exactly. It's going to take more than a short DL stint for Janssen to lose his job. Santos is a short-term add only at this point.

And if after the 15 days and it gets switched to 30 days on the D/L then you can say well it is only a short term till he comes back.

Not saying it will happen that way. But looking back at Cory Hart was supposed to be back the 2nd week, end of the month, by the ASB, and so forth. Next thing you know he is playing for SEA this year and never played last year.

Obviously if Janssen is hurt and unable to pitch, Santos will keep the job. Don't think that needs to be said.

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Posted · Hidden by The Harsh, March 31, 2014 - No reason given · Report post

So some fool, in my league, dropped Santos last night, to pick up Wilson to stream for tonight. Figuring he can pick Santos back up on Tuesday with no problem........................hahahahahahaha.....what a fool........Oh wait, that fool was me :(

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If Janssen comes back healthy would they take the job away from him? I'd doubt it.

Janssen is probably going to miss 14 days. Santos would be lucky to get 4 save opportunities in that time span. To take away Janssen's job because Santos saved something like 4 games would be HILARIOUS.

Exactly. It's going to take more than a short DL stint for Janssen to lose his job. Santos is a short-term add only at this point.

And if after the 15 days and it gets switched to 30 days on the D/L then you can say well it is only a short term till he comes back.

Not saying it will happen that way. But looking back at Cory Hart was supposed to be back the 2nd week, end of the month, by the ASB, and so forth. Next thing you know he is playing for SEA this year and never played last year.

Obviously if Janssen is hurt and unable to pitch, Santos will keep the job. Don't think that needs to be said.

Was really saying that with any injury you can't say that the player will come back in the specified time. If Jannsen doesn't comeback you missed Santos with that mind set. If Santos gets 9 saves in the next two weeks, 1. he would keep the job and 2. You missed out on Santos again. Even if Santos only gets 4 saves it is four saves you missed which might or might not turn out to be big

You have to take the player that has the job over someone on the injury list.

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I'm not saying not to pick up Santos. Just responding to people who think he's going to keep the job after like 5 innings.

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Does anyone like him as a MR in leagues that roster that many relievers? Obviously having the closers role makes him interesting, but that's likely temporary.

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Posted · Hidden by The Harsh, March 31, 2014 - No reason given · Report post

my league counts holds, that's why I had him in the first place

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Go Sergio... this is definitely a role I see him holding thru the ASB- read up on his contract details on my first post.... he strikes me as a trade candidate the Jays suck come June, and he has pitched well. I am going to assume if they have nothing to play for and would otherwise be buying him out likely, he will close to build value...

And if they are good? I don't know- I think he could keep the job through the year if healthy. They could still buy him out when the season ends...

I am anticipating a deadline deal, and the Jays being middle of the pack in that division, but we'll see. For a dollar on draft day I'll take what he'll give me for now...

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Does anyone like him as a MR in leagues that roster that many relievers? Obviously having the closers role makes him interesting, but that's likely temporary.

He will be bought out- I'd bet on it.... unless I misread info. in re: to his contract. If I did, someone please correct me...

That just makes me think he should get chances if anything to improve trade value- especially if the Jays start slow. The chances of CJ having a setback or anything would make me say he's a must-add when you look at his #s last year, and knowing what his arm (when healthy...) is capable of.

I can see him being dealt and then falling into a SU or MR role midseason though. A lot of my incentive in handcuffing HIM vs. so many others was the chance he could see a few early, but also the contract and fact I don't expect the Jays to be contenders. I don't know- this is pure speculation on my part. But that deal- if they can salvage anything from Santos and are having a losing year, throw him in the CL role, let his ratios shine and hope he racks some up and deal him when a team needs a late innings reliever due to injury come June or July. I just can't predict how long he'll save for but he has what it takes to run away with the job- no doubt. The salary factored in and well.... I like the chances.

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