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Kennys Vargas 2014 Outlook

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coming up for the Twins from AA.

Twins recalled 1B Kennys Vargas from Double-A New Britain.

Vargas, 23, was batting .281/.360/.472 with 17 home runs and 63 RBI in 97 games this season at the Double-A level. He could see regular starts at DH but is doubtful to hold fantasy value outside of AL-only leagues.

had good numbers in AA.

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/profile.asp?P=kennys-vargas

97 G/ 356 AB - .282/.360/.472/.832/ 17 HR/ 63 RBI/

after trading Kendrys, the Twins felt they needed another YS player.

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He could catch a hot streak here or there but I wouldnt really expect much. His numbers were barely above average and he isn't young for AA by any means.

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just looking a little deeper.

he was an undrafted free agent.

in all of 2010 he only played 39 games. in all of 2011 he only played 44 games. in all of 2012 he only played 41 games. in all of 2013 he finally got more games with 125 games.

doesn't seem like he was given much AB as say a top prospect would, so maybe that's why it took this long to get to the majors and that reflects his age.

there is potential there, but likely more so for a deeper league.

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He could catch a hot streak here or there but I wouldnt really expect much. His numbers were barely above average and he isn't young for AA by any means.

Normally agree with your assessments, but I don't think you're giving him enough credit. His wRC+ for the Eastern League is 129. His OPS is over 100 points higher than the league's. That's not barely above league average. And a 23 year old in AA is not old.

He's not some uber prospect, by any means, but he's always been fairly underrated.

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just looking a little deeper.

he was an undrafted free agent.

not sure why on earth that's notable. you know who else were undrafted free agents? just about every ballplayer from latin america.

As to Vargas, I've seen him often in person this year at New Britain. Kid can hit. Just can't run.

New Britain isn't exactly a hitter's haven, but I left very impressed with him.

as to why he missed games, i know he was suspended in 2011 due to a banned substance (weight loss product-dude has always had weight problems). The first 2 years were GCL seasons....very short seasons.

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Posted · Hidden by phatrat, August 2, 2014 - No Reason · Report post

Jumped on this dude before tonight. Seems pretty low risk/high reward.

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just looking a little deeper.

he was an undrafted free agent.

not sure why on earth that's notable. you know who else were undrafted free agents? just about every ballplayer from latin america.

As to Vargas, I've seen him often in person this year at New Britain. Kid can hit. Just can't run.

New Britain isn't exactly a hitter's haven, but I left very impressed with him.

as to why he missed games, i know he was suspended in 2011 due to a banned substance (weight loss product-dude has always had weight problems). The first 2 years were GCL seasons....very short seasons.

His fielding leaves something to be desired also, dh is looking like the position for him if they want to keep his bat in the lineup.

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just looking a little deeper.

he was an undrafted free agent.

not sure why on earth that's notable. you know who else were undrafted free agents? just about every ballplayer from latin america.

As to Vargas, I've seen him often in person this year at New Britain. Kid can hit. Just can't run.

New Britain isn't exactly a hitter's haven, but I left very impressed with him.

as to why he missed games, i know he was suspended in 2011 due to a banned substance (weight loss product-dude has always had weight problems). The first 2 years were GCL seasons....very short seasons.

His fielding leaves something to be desired also, dh is looking like the position for him if they want to keep his bat in the lineup.

Very true, neglected to mention that part. He's a DH in waiting, but likely to play enough 1B to keep eligibility.

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just looking a little deeper.

he was an undrafted free agent.

not sure why on earth that's notable. you know who else were undrafted free agents? just about every ballplayer from latin america.

As to Vargas, I've seen him often in person this year at New Britain. Kid can hit. Just can't run.

New Britain isn't exactly a hitter's haven, but I left very impressed with him.

as to why he missed games, i know he was suspended in 2011 due to a banned substance (weight loss product-dude has always had weight problems). The first 2 years were GCL seasons....very short seasons.

when I saw the games played I thought maybe that had a connection to be an undrafted free agent, as since he wasn't drafted that he wasn't just handed a starting spot and it took him awhile to earn his playing time. didn't know about the ban or short seasons.

comparison to David Ortiz?

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just looking a little deeper.

he was an undrafted free agent.

not sure why on earth that's notable. you know who else were undrafted free agents? just about every ballplayer from latin america.

As to Vargas, I've seen him often in person this year at New Britain. Kid can hit. Just can't run.

New Britain isn't exactly a hitter's haven, but I left very impressed with him.

as to why he missed games, i know he was suspended in 2011 due to a banned substance (weight loss product-dude has always had weight problems). The first 2 years were GCL seasons....very short seasons.

when I saw the games played I thought maybe that had a connection to be an undrafted free agent, as since he wasn't drafted that he wasn't just handed a starting spot and it took him awhile to earn his playing time. didn't know about the ban or short seasons.

comparison to David Ortiz?

very much so. even down to the personality. ortiz played in NB back in the day as well, and many noted it here. apparently ortiz and vargas have become friendly as well. apparently vargas has a big personality like ortiz as well.

however, i don't think the upside is in the same universe.

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just looking a little deeper.

he was an undrafted free agent.

not sure why on earth that's notable. you know who else were undrafted free agents? just about every ballplayer from latin america.

As to Vargas, I've seen him often in person this year at New Britain. Kid can hit. Just can't run.

New Britain isn't exactly a hitter's haven, but I left very impressed with him.

as to why he missed games, i know he was suspended in 2011 due to a banned substance (weight loss product-dude has always had weight problems). The first 2 years were GCL seasons....very short seasons.

when I saw the games played I thought maybe that had a connection to be an undrafted free agent, as since he wasn't drafted that he wasn't just handed a starting spot and it took him awhile to earn his playing time. didn't know about the ban or short seasons.

comparison to David Ortiz?

very much so. even down to the personality. ortiz played in NB back in the day as well, and many noted it here. apparently ortiz and vargas have become friendly as well. apparently vargas has a big personality like ortiz as well.

however, i don't think the upside is in the same universe.

hard to put THIS upside that Ortiz has gotten to on anyone, but I think the same thing have been said about Ortiz back when he was 23.

I wouldn't say Vargas has a good chance at getting to the level Ortiz has gotten to, but I think it is possible.

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Worth a look for power potential. Not a great park for power but his ability to hit well from both sides of the plate should lead to solid PT.

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I'm looking foward to seeing what he can do. Whats the worse thing that can happen? I drop him? He wouldn't be the first. And who knows? Something good could happen. No pressure of a pennant race.

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Chances are most mixed-league owners won't have reason to pick up Kennys Vargas this year. He plays the deepest position in Fantasy and wasn't a particularly high-profile prospect coming up through the Twins system.

But at 6-feet-5, 275 pounds, he looks every bit like a power hitter and made good on it with 17 home runs in only 356 at-bats at Double-A New Britain. And while he isn't exactly Joey Votto at the plate, he isn't a swing-at-everything type either. His flaws as a hitter aren't so evident that they preclude him from holding down an everyday job.

So why the lack of hype? Well, in addition to being big, he's slow. And not exactly agile. His shortcomings may confine him to a DH role long term, kind of like another big, slow, lumbering type who the Twins decided wasn't worth the trouble named David Ortiz. You think they'll make that mistake again?

Ortiz was actually Vargas' favorite player growing up, and now he's become a mentor of sorts. According to an MLB.com report from back in spring training, the two are in frequent contact, so the similarities between them go beyond just size.

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3 run homer tonight!

He friggin smashed it, ball got out of there in a hurry.

Looking good in the early going. May have been overlooked in prospect rankings because his lack of defensive skill. The bat has translated at every level so far. I'm excited for the kid... though it's hard to call anyone that large a kid. :o

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Saw him live at a AA game a few weeks ago. Hit a HR in that game too. I read he has a pretty good K rate for a slugger too. Certainly worth a shot in AL Only Leagues, like mine.

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3 run homer tonight!

He friggin smashed it, ball got out of there in a hurry.

Looking good in the early going. May have been overlooked in prospect rankings because his lack of defensive skill. The bat has translated at every level so far. I'm excited for the kid... though it's hard to call anyone that large a kid. :o

Per fangraphs, he hit .283 against righties and .290 against lefties in the minors. http://www.fangraphs.../kennys-vargas/

If that translates somewhat to the majors, then the Twins really have something on their hands. Now, all we have is 4 major league games and he has struck out 6 times in them. I think pitchers are going to see if he can hit the breaking ball, and we'll see where he goes from there. Today Hahn let a curveball hang too much and Vargas pummeled it.

http://www.twinkieto...p-kennys-vargas Here my biggest takeaway that he is here to stay unless he fails horribly. So it can be assumed that Mauer will stick 1st, this kid at DH. If he hits, we could have a long term play here. The Twins aren't exactly an offensive juggernaut, so they will surely look to see if this kid can be a middle of the order type. That's getting wayyy ahead of myself tho. Right now, Vargas has to work on hitting off speed stuff and not striking out. If he can do both, I like his chances to succeed. He has immense power potential and deserves a roster spot for that. Could flop, could succeed. Tough going from AA to the majors. But he's worth a shot.

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Posted · Hidden by phatrat, August 6, 2014 - No Reason · Report post

Good post. I put in for him today. I'm in the middle of the pack in the standings with really nowhere to go . I have a pretty good core of keepers for next year so if he can continue to put balls in te seats he could help me improve by using him in a bundle deal to improve my picks for next year. Either way nothing to lose by trying.

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Posted · Hidden by Red Sox Nation, August 9, 2014 - No reason given · Report post

I definitly have a droppable player or two on my team right now.. 10 man team. Looking at what hes done so far, I could use that. Worth a shot right?

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