Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

gbill2004

Heath Miller 2014 Season Outlook

75 posts in this topic

He's a great pairing for some of the upside guys like L.Green, Z. Ertz, J. Reed, etc.

He's consistent, but unspectacular, and has mad rapport with Big Ben. He might actually get more yardage than most TEs and is now a year or so removed from his knee imploding. I honestly think he's being criminally underrated and could finish as a safe option for low-end TE1 production.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He's a great pairing for some of the upside guys like L.Green, Z. Ertz, J. Reed, etc.

He's consistent, but unspectacular, and has mad rapport with Big Ben. He might actually get more yardage than most TEs and is now a year or so removed from his knee imploding. I honestly think he's being criminally underrated and could finish as a safe option for low-end TE1 production.

That's what I was thinking. Something along the lines of 800 yards and 6 TDs.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nah he will put up 10+ tds he will be a prime redzone target. He never really was 100% last year but now he should he and he doesnt have crotchery competing for redzone i say 750~850 and 10 tds

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nah he will put up 10+ tds he will be a prime redzone target. He never really was 100% last year but now he should he and he doesnt have crotchery competing for redzone i say 750~850 and 10 tds

Yeah, just a ho hum top 3 TE season that you can get in rd 13 or 14, nothing much to see here...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nah he will put up 10+ tds he will be a prime redzone target. He never really was 100% last year but now he should he and he doesnt have crotchery competing for redzone i say 750~850 and 10 tds

10+ TD and 750/850 yards are Julius Thomas and Vernon Davis numbers.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I love me some Heath and he's one of my value picks for TEs. I think that the Pitt oline improves and therefore their offense does too and benefits Heath. 10+ TDs is a little ambitious, but I think 5-7 is possible. I like the idea of pairing him with one of the later high upside TEs as well.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nah he will put up 10+ tds he will be a prime redzone target. He never really was 100% last year but now he should he and he doesnt have crotchery competing for redzone i say 750~850 and 10 tds

10+ TD and 750/850 yards are Julius Thomas and Vernon Davis numbers.

Aside from Antonio Brown's 5'10"/186lbs frame, Markus Wheaton's 5'11"/182lbs frame, DHB's stone hands, and rookie Martavis Bryant (apparently pretty raw and has had a slow start to camp) who will get the passing TDs?

Le'Veon Bell has good hands and is 6'1", so he could absorb some receiving TDs.

Heath Miller is 6'5" and 256lbs and is only 31 years old. The guy is likely to have 5-7 TDs and could easily have 10 in the uptempo offense. His "career" season in 2012 was 71 catches on 101 targets for 816 yards and 8 TDs in 15 games (missed Week 17) and with more plays per game and a stronger run game to keep defenses honest, I could maybe put his ceiling at 1000y/12TD. The best part is he is being written off and you can have him for pennies on the dollar.

People are acting like the guy is ancient, but seem to forget that he's been there and done it many times before and seems to have a game that could translate similar to T-Gon the Conqueror (Tony Gonzalez for the uninitiated).

I'm all in on Miller as a TE to draft as either a backup to an elite TE or as a streaming partner to one of the sophomore/upside TEs. If he pans out as a top 5 option, you can trade the other guy for elite production at another spot.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Stats looked nice tonight, how did he look? How many targets for him tonight?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Stats looked nice tonight, how did he look? How many targets for him tonight?

I watched the game, he looked good. Made some tough catches. Not sure the target count, but as WR Wheaten (sp?) dropped passes or ran the wrong routes, Miller stepped up. Based on tonight, a solid TE and RZ target.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He's going to be overlooked because after the big names go off the board, everyone will go for the young TE's.

Right now it seems Big Ben only trusts him and Antonio Brown. The other WR haven't shown much yet. Especially early on in the season, he'll see plenty of targets.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He's going to be overlooked because after the big names go off the board, everyone will go for the young TE's.

Right now it seems Big Ben only trusts him and Antonio Brown. The other WR haven't shown much yet. Especially early on in the season, he'll see plenty of targets.

I agree. Miller seems to be a bit off the radar. I would definitely draft him. He showed great hands and good separation tonight.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He's going to be overlooked because after the big names go off the board, everyone will go for the young TE's.

Right now it seems Big Ben only trusts him and Antonio Brown. The other WR haven't shown much yet. Especially early on in the season, he'll see plenty of targets.

I agree. Miller seems to be a bit off the radar. I would definitely draft him. He showed great hands and good separation tonight.

Semi CSB but he really fell in a recent 2 TE draft of mine. People were picking high upside unproven guys well before I picked Miller as my TE2. I really think people forgot about him after his injuries.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He's going to be overlooked because after the big names go off the board, everyone will go for the young TE's.

Right now it seems Big Ben only trusts him and Antonio Brown. The other WR haven't shown much yet. Especially early on in the season, he'll see plenty of targets.

I agree. Miller seems to be a bit off the radar. I would definitely draft him. He showed great hands and good separation tonight.

Semi CSB but he really fell in a recent 2 TE draft of mine. People were picking high upside unproven guys well before I picked Miller as my TE2. I really think people forgot about him after his injuries.

If Miller is your TE 2 you're in good shape.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm callin it now 10+ tds before his injury in 2012 he was at 10 tds with like 3 games to go wasn't he? He will be a red zone monster and he's 100% now and with crotchety gone he will see a ton of looks

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Hidden by Red Sox Nation, August 25, 2014 - No reason given · Report post

18 TEs are gone in my current slow draft, and Miller is still there. If he makes it back to me, I might have to grab him just for the value even though I already have Rudolph.

Share this post


Link to post

Is he gonna take targets away from Brown?

I doubt that...but he probably takes targets away from Wheaton and Bryant if he picks up where he left off in 2012.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

18 TEs are gone in my current slow draft, and Miller is still there. If he makes it back to me, I might have to grab him just for the value even though I already have Rudolph.

That's ridiculous that 18 TEs have already been drafted but Miller is still there. You'll get great value picking him now.

Most owners are so focused on the new young TEs that they seem to forget that Miller was a Top 5 Fantasy TE in 2012. That year the Steelers had Wallace, Brown and Sanders on their roster. This year it's Brown and a group of young unproven WRs.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He's going to be overlooked because after the big names go off the board, everyone will go for the young TE's.

Right now it seems Big Ben only trusts him and Antonio Brown. The other WR haven't shown much yet. Especially early on in the season, he'll see plenty of targets.

Big Ben loves Miller especially in the RZ. Miller can block and has crazy good hands for a big guy. If they do run an uptempo offense Miller will be there... blocking and catching, doing it all. Miller is the checkdown guy too.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Is he gonna take targets away from Brown?

Nope. Brown will be the first read. Big Ben LOVES to hold on to the ball until the last minute. When that happens, more often than not it will be dumped to Miller after he blocks and releases or at the end of his route when he sits in the zone or the LB has left him wide open. Happens year after year.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Is he gonna take targets away from Brown?

Nope. Brown will be the first read. Big Ben LOVES to hold on to the ball until the last minute. When that happens, more often than not it will be dumped to Miller after he blocks and releases or at the end of his route when he sits in the zone or the LB has left him wide open. Happens year after year.

Brown will be the deeper/mid threat but get into the red zone and its gonna be miller all day.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Think the opportunity is there for Miller to have a big year. The offensive line stinking is nothing new, and Miller still paced 90 targets/season last year with great efficiency. Matt Spaeth is now a year removed from his lisfranc and sits at the 2nd TE spot purely as a blocker. Miller is over a year removed from the ACL now. Steelers lost 180 targets/37 RZTs between Sanders and Cotchery. Those targets will spread out evenly but I don't see any of these new receivers passing Miller in the RZT pecking order, much less from inside 10. Can't deny the chemistry between he and Ben and I think this last game was a sign of things to come. Sorry for the boring bullet point format.

I think 100 targets/70 receptions -- 750 yards 6 TDS is a fair projection with 2012 as his ceiling and a double digit TD year as the "oh please!" pipe dream.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites