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Ozhaino Albies - SS ATL

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From a board I frequent...

 

Just wanted to add some perspective on what Ozzy is doing at AA; its ridiculous and it doesn't seem like prospect guru's are really talking about it that much, considering the performance and his age.  

Albies is currently hitting .370/.440/.505 in 184 ABs.

Going back to 2005 - here are the best seasons that batters have put together in the Southern League in BA/OBP/SLG and their age when they did it. 

Batting Average / 2005-2016

1. Ozzie Albies .370 (2016/19 years old) 
2. Dave Sappelt .361 (2010/23 years old) 
3. Angel Salome .360 (2008/22 years old)
3. Scott Van Slyke .348 (2011/25 years old) 
4. Brandon Guyer .344 (2010/24 years old) 
5. Tyler Kuhn .341 (2011/24 years old)
5. Moises Sierra .341 (2016/27 years old)

Ozzie's OBP of .440 would rank;

2016 #1 - next closest .419
2015 #1 - next closest .416
2014 #1 - next closest .405
2013 #1 - next closest .420
2012 #1 - next closest .416
2011 #1 - next closest .435
2010 #1 - next closest .411
2009 #2 - Ezequiel Carrera .441 OBP / 22 years old
2008 #1 - next closest .419
2007 #1 - next closest .433
2006 #1 - next closest .408
2005 #2 - Jermey Hermida .457 OBP / 21 years old

Ozzie's SLG% of .505 would rank

2016 #4 - highest .547
2015 #2 - highest .531
2014 #3 - highest .556
2013 #1 - next closest .497 
2012 #4 - highest .563
2011 #8 - highest .626
2010 #3 - highest .588
2009 #3 - highest .521
2008 #9 - highest .580
2007 #4 - highest .565
2006 #3 - highest .547
2005 #7 - highest .582

Obviously Albies spent some time in AAA, so his sample size is a little bit smaller here, but we are still approaching 200 ABs and even if there's some regression, what he's done on this level AT HIS AGE; is unprecedented as a hitter. Also keep in mind that many of the other leaders on these lists are not only much older, but also play more offensive positions like OF/1B. 

He's a stud.

 

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The Braves wanted Ozzie and Swanson to get used to playing next to each other on the field to build up their chemistry. Initially, they wanted both players to continue to get reps at SS, but they're now ready to transition Albies to 2B full time.

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I don't think he gets called up in Septembre since his minor league team looks playoff bound. However after elimination we may get a week peek at him.

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He is playing in my the Arizona fall league. Does that mean he likely won't be called up? He is just 19 years old but holding his own 

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Anything recent on albies?  Seems to be hovering around 10-15 in most rankings,  still very very young. And should be pushing his way to the majors at some point this yearif he keeps hitting.  Speed/hit tool seem to be his best tools to date.  If he adds a little weight or muscle mass maybe we could be looking at a 100 run 10 homers 80 RBI 30sb 300 hitting second baseman.  

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1 hour ago, Baseball Or Bust said:

Anything recent on albies?  Seems to be hovering around 10-15 in most rankings,  still very very young. And should be pushing his way to the majors at some point this yearif he keeps hitting.  Speed/hit tool seem to be his best tools to date.  If he adds a little weight or muscle mass maybe we could be looking at a 100 run 10 homers 80 RBI 30sb 300 hitting second baseman.  

I think he probably profiles as a leadoff guy, which in the NL hurts his RBI chances and I don't think he has enough power to compensate and get 80 RBI. Everything else, while obviously optimistic seems plausible

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New to the Albies thread here. I am taking over a dynasty team with him on it so trying to learn a little more. Is his ETA this year ? And how does the acquisition of Demeritte effect him if at all ? Seems like they have a crowded middle infield.

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Given the acquisition of Brandon Phillips, aside from a September cup of coffee I'd expect him to compete for a full time job in 2018. He has a proven rapport with Swanson from their time together in AA and fits in perfectly near the top of the order with his skill set, so barring major regression this season I'd expect to see Albies and Swanson as double play partners for years to come.

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18 minutes ago, fletch44 said:

New to the Albies thread here. I am taking over a dynasty team with him on it so trying to learn a little more. Is his ETA this year ? And how does the acquisition of Demeritte effect him if at all ? Seems like they have a crowded middle infield.

I really wouldn't consider Demeritte a real threat to Albies as the 2nd baseman of the future for the Braves. Demeritte has major swing and miss issues now at the lower levels (33 K% at Advanced A), let alone at the higher levels where his long swing and struggles recognizing breaking balls will likely become more troublesome. Demeritte is a major work in progress still. Albies is the superior prospect at a higher organizational level, combining great contact skills (fangraphs gave him a future 70 hit tool) with great speed (70 grade speed) and defence (60-65 field with 55 arm). He profiles as a leadoff type hitter as he puts the ball in play lots (15.6 K% last year between AA and AAA) and can take a walk (8.3 BB% last year between AA and AAA), and he does while being well younger than his peers. Not sure how high of a ceiling he has as a fantasy player, he could be like Dee Gordon or he could be like Alcides Escobar. I think he gets a shot at the end of the year in September for a few games as the Braves brought in Brandon Phillips, but look for him more as a 2018 guy. I think he will be one of the hotter prospects going into next year as that will likely be his opportunity at a full time gig in the majors.

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If he didn't get hurt he may have had a shot (maybe a long shot) to compete for the job this year.  I thought we would see Albies a little sooner if Sean Rodriguez was healthy and they didn't sign Phillips. Either way he should be up later this year And competing for the starting gig in 2018. He may get called up sooner if he hits at AAA and injuries open the door for him.

 

 

 

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Scuffling so far this year in AAA, but I don't think it is anything to worry about.  He has such a calm swing and demeanor at the plate.  One of those guys who's swing is going to translate to the bigs.  Here is his home run from last night.  He has such a quick attack that he can really wait on the ball.  Fun to watch.  

 

http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?content_id=1346207983

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We know he can hit at AA but AAA has been a problem for him. He's young so it's to be expected but he can't seem to get in a groove.

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On 5/3/2017 at 7:18 AM, GJDHouse said:

Scuffling so far this year in AAA, but I don't think it is anything to worry about.  He has such a calm swing and demeanor at the plate.  One of those guys who's swing is going to translate to the bigs.  Here is his home run from last night.  He has such a quick attack that he can really wait on the ball.  Fun to watch.  

 

http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?content_id=1346207983

 

that swing, oddly, reminds me a lot of Justin Turner.

I know Albies is more of a speed/contact guy though. 

 

what kind of numbers are scouts projecting for his MLB prime? 

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On 5/14/2017 at 9:40 AM, ChicksDigTheOPS said:

 

that swing, oddly, reminds me a lot of Justin Turner.

I know Albies is more of a speed/contact guy though. 

 

what kind of numbers are scouts projecting for his MLB prime? 

 

the right-handed swing, to be clear.

from the left... he is something bizarre. Like Alcantara meets Luis Valbuena meets Altuve.

 

What are the chances the Braves call him up soon? Might they use him to give the team a boost, in light of the sad Freddie news?

 

and, if called up soon, does he have the kind of skills to be a total fantasy game-changer? Thinking about stashing in a keeper.... 

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I think Albies is up once the team feels safe about Super-2. So likely in a month or so. Maybe a bit more. There's no reason to rush him. He's not exactly tearing it up in AAA, and the Braves are going nowhere.  But he has gotten a fair amount of time in AAA already, so you probably promote him at some point and he gets a fair amount of playing time in the second half on this season.

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I agree with Jericho.  There is no reason to rush him before he has clearly passed the Super 2.  I do think he is up this year though, which is pretty incredible for a guy his size and age.  He won't turn 21 years old for another 8 months.  I love speed guys who can really make hard contact.  He probably won't ever hit 15 home runs in a year, but he is going to steal 40+ for a number of years, and I also expect him to be a .300/.370 kind of batter.....basically what Jose Altuve was supposed to be before he started taking steroids.

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I don't know all of the details with the Brandon Phillips deal, but I know there was a lot that went into convincing him to become a Brave. I bring up Phillips because I don't think the Braves, knowing they are rebuilding this year, would talk him into coming over just to unseat him less than 3 months into his Atlanta tenure. If you factor that in along with Ozzie not dominating AAA and being really young for the level I personally wouldn't be surprised to not see him in the MLB until September. If there are injuries then that changes the timeline. but I just don't understand the point of rushing Ozzie to the MLB when he hasn't demonstrated a mastery of AAA. 

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1 hour ago, thezing1 said:

I don't know all of the details with the Brandon Phillips deal, but I know there was a lot that went into convincing him to become a Brave. I bring up Phillips because I don't think the Braves, knowing they are rebuilding this year, would talk him into coming over just to unseat him less than 3 months into his Atlanta tenure. If you factor that in along with Ozzie not dominating AAA and being really young for the level I personally wouldn't be surprised to not see him in the MLB until September. If there are injuries then that changes the timeline. but I just don't understand the point of rushing Ozzie to the MLB when he hasn't demonstrated a mastery of AAA. 

this guy might have been reading my mind... i see no reason they bring him up this year when they can wait until super 2 next year. a sept cup of coffee gets him some experience and then see how he handles AAA next season.

obviously anything can happen and maybe he suddenly starts mashing in the minors this year, but unless he really really pushes the envelope, i don't see a call up coming.

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19 hours ago, osb_tensor said:

this guy might have been reading my mind... i see no reason they bring him up this year when they can wait until super 2 next year. a sept cup of coffee gets him some experience and then see how he handles AAA next season.

obviously anything can happen and maybe he suddenly starts mashing in the minors this year, but unless he really really pushes the envelope, i don't see a call up coming.

They are likely to trade Phillips at the deadline, he needs to be brought up after that so he can get a little seasons and prepare to be their Opening Day 2B next season. 

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Atlanta has a new ballpark. Braves got Phillips to bridge til Ozzie is ready. Freeman going out changes the equation. Atlanta needs something new and Matt Adams was a good pickup. But Ozzie can inject interest while forming a long term combo with Swanson. Plus Phillips can still play 3B if he isn't traded yet again.

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The guy won't turn 21 until next year. His stats at AAA are mediocre at best. 7% walk rate and 23% K rate. If you take away SB's literally no one would have a desire to bring him up to the MLB level. OBP of .314. OPS just north of .700. There is nothing that suggests he is ready for the MLB right now. The angle of needing to excite a fanbase that lost Freeman....I can't say how Ozzie performs over his first 400 MLB at-bats because I don't know when they will occur, but I can tell you that a prospect that is elite at stealing bases that can't get on first base isn't all that exciting. If the Braves were worried about syncing their new ballpark with a competitive team they would have deviated from the rebuilding plan or never delved into a rebuild. 

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