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Cleveland Browns Offseason Thread 2017

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1 hour ago, devaster said:

Brock didn't have a "very good" year. He showed some potential, but a lot more question marks. The Texans were dumb to sign him.

 

Welcome to Cleveland.

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3 hours ago, devaster said:

Brock didn't have a "very good" year. He showed some potential, but a lot more question marks. The Texans were dumb to sign him.

Yes he did. He was much better then Peyton Manning 2015.

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26 minutes ago, ChasinDatPaper said:

Yes he did. He was much better then Peyton Manning 2015.

 

He was better than the decayed rotting corpse of Peyton Manning that played in 2015.

 

PASSING STATS  
SEASON TEAM GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT
1998 16 326 575 56.7 3,739 6.50 26 78 28 3 -- 71.2
1999 16 331 533 62.1 4,135 7.76 26 80 15 1 -- 90.7
2000 16 357 571 62.5 4,413 7.73 33 78 15 4 -- 94.7
2001 16 343 547 62.7 4,131 7.55 26 86 23 4 -- 84.1
2002 16 392 591 66.3 4,200 7.11 27 69 19 5 -- 88.8
2003 16 379 566 67.0 4,267 7.54 29 79 10 2 -- 99.0
2004 16 336 497 67.6 4,557 9.17 49 80 10 4 -- 121.1
2005 16 305 453 67.3 3,747 8.27 28 80 10 3 -- 104.1
2006 16 362 557 65.0 4,397 7.89 31 68 9 2 88.5 101.0
2007 16 337 515 65.4 4,040 7.85 31 73 14 6 76.5 98.0
2008 16 371 555 66.8 4,002 7.21 27 75 12 0 79.7 95.0
2009 16 393 571 68.8 4,500 7.88 33 80 16 1 83.3 99.9
2010 16 450 679 66.3 4,700 6.92 33 73 17 2 77.6 91.9
2012 16 400 583 68.6 4,659 7.99 37 71 11 2 82.1 105.8
2013 16 450 659 68.3 5,477 8.31 55 78 10 5 83.9 115.1
2014 16 395 597 66.2 4,727 7.92 39 86 15 2 74.8 101.5
2015 10 198 331 59.8 2,249 6.80 9 75 17 1 47.2 67.9
Career 266 6,125 9,380 65.3 71,940 7.67 539 86 251 47 -- 96.5

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What would this cost?  

#12 and #52?

 

Profootballtalk reports there's a "growing belief" in league circles the Browns could pursue Redskins franchise player Kirk Cousins.

Per a league source, Cousins' concern upon signing the franchise tag was that he could be traded, "specifically" to Cleveland. The Browns have the cap space, draft picks and need to pursue a deal. Were Cousins to be acquired without a long-term contract already in tow, the sides would have until July 15 to come to an agreement. Although he's tried to tamp down the speculation in recent days, Cousins appears bitterly unhappy in Washington.

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1 hour ago, ChasinDatPaper said:

Yes he did. He was much better then Peyton Manning 2015.

That isn't saying much considering Manning was old, beaten down, and injured. And after resting for half the season Manning came back and reclaimed his job for the playoff run. Brock wasn't helping them win a SB.

 

Brock had already reached his ceiling and fell back to mediocrity after a few starts.

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1 hour ago, jmausen said:

What would this cost?  

#12 and #52?

 

Profootballtalk reports there's a "growing belief" in league circles the Browns could pursue Redskins franchise player Kirk Cousins.

Per a league source, Cousins' concern upon signing the franchise tag was that he could be traded, "specifically" to Cleveland. The Browns have the cap space, draft picks and need to pursue a deal. Were Cousins to be acquired without a long-term contract already in tow, the sides would have until July 15 to come to an agreement. Although he's tried to tamp down the speculation in recent days, Cousins appears bitterly unhappy in Washington.

 

Yikes!  This would allow Cleveland to win more than one game this year, but it would just be a nightmare for Cousins.  He certainly wants to play for a contender when he finally gets his long-term deal, and being on a bad team with few weapons will definitely dent his value.

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1 hour ago, jmausen said:

What would this cost?  

#12 and #52?

 

Profootballtalk reports there's a "growing belief" in league circles the Browns could pursue Redskins franchise player Kirk Cousins.

Per a league source, Cousins' concern upon signing the franchise tag was that he could be traded, "specifically" to Cleveland. The Browns have the cap space, draft picks and need to pursue a deal. Were Cousins to be acquired without a long-term contract already in tow, the sides would have until July 15 to come to an agreement. Although he's tried to tamp down the speculation in recent days, Cousins appears bitterly unhappy in Washington.

Don't matter the cost. He won't play for them.

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Kessler should get the Nod but they should bring another solid QB. Chase Daniel maybe and draft one Mid round. Or Trade for AJ McCarron but dont give up a ransom. Garret needs to be the pick. Mike Williams the Second pick at 12 or move up to get him. Simple as that.  The Browns will win 6 games Or so next year by doing this.

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1 hour ago, eg4190 said:

 

Yikes!  This would allow Cleveland to win more than one game this year, but it would just be a nightmare for Cousins.  He certainly wants to play for a contender when he finally gets his long-term deal, and being on a bad team with few weapons will definitely dent his value.

No it wouldn't.

He wants to go the the worst team in the league, san francisco.

The Browns would pay him good money, never let him get touched behind that OL, and give him more weapons than he currently has in DC. Not to mention a defense that will likely come into it's own within the next few years given how they draft.

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You know the owner of the Browns is Jimmy Haslam. Brother of Governor Bill Haslam. The same Haslam family who are the most influential University of Tennessee alumni when it comes to athletics! Conincidence?

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in a perfect world kirk goes to cle and Josh gets reinstated and stays and they crush it together

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6 hours ago, ChasinDatPaper said:

Yes he did. He was much better then Peyton Manning 2015.

 

Not saying much, considering Peyton was the #34 ranked QB that year (only 32 QBs start in the league). 

 

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just puttin it out there but the browns let pryror go and added kenny britt(not going to win u games). . . they still have rights to Josh the Savior

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11 hours ago, dashoe said:

just puttin it out there but the browns let pryror go and added kenny britt(not going to win u games). . . they still have rights to Josh the Savior

 

Josh the savior blew their playoff run in 2014.

He can be elite, but he has the motivation of a pot-head.

Better off keeping the expectations low until proven otherwise.

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11 hours ago, joshua18 said:

 

Not saying much, considering Peyton was the #34 ranked QB that year (only 32 QBs start in the league). 

 

Any given week. Most years have more than 32 qbs start at least one game.

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Digging into last years draft picks to figure out depth.

One of the safeties they drafted last year broke his ankle......during the bye week.

Only in Cleveland.

 

Browns placed SS Derrick Kindred (ankle) on reserve/NFI, ending his season.
Kindred somehow suffered a broken ankle during the bye week. The fourth-round rookie played 122 of 125 defensive snaps the past two weeks. The Browns' expansion-level defense continues to take hits and is one to attack. Wed, Dec 7, 2016 01:47:00 PM

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