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Todd Gurley 2017 Season Outlook

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http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/32959/rams-need-to-figure-out-how-to-get-todd-gurley-going-again

 

What a miserable 2016 season for Gurley. With LAR's lackluster WR corps causing opposing teams to stack the box, Gurley averaged less than 3.2 YPC and rushed for only 885 yards despite playing all 16 games. Early ADP for 12-team leagues is looking like mid- to late-2nd round. 

 

Personally, I'm not interested in him this year if the Rams don't draft or sign some solid wideouts to relieve pressure off TGIII. 

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1 minute ago, FlashGordon401 said:

http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/32959/rams-need-to-figure-out-how-to-get-todd-gurley-going-again

 

What a miserable 2016 season for Gurley. With LAR's lackluster WR corps causing opposing teams to stack the box, Gurley averaged less than 3.2 YPC and rushed for only 885 yards despite playing all 16 games. Early ADP for 12-team leagues is looking like mid- to late-2nd round. 

 

Personally, I'm not interested in him this year if the Rams don't draft or sign some solid wideouts to relieve pressure off TGIII. 

 

They had a 1000 yard WR who did it in 15 games despite catching balls from Keenum/Goff. Gurley just wasn't good. 

 

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1 minute ago, joshua18 said:

 

They had a 1000 yard WR who did it in 15 games despite catching balls from Keenum/Goff. Gurley just wasn't good. 

 

Forgot about Britt. And you're correct, Gurley looked like a plodder this season.

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It's not the recievers, although obviously it would help if they (re)signed some guys so tavon and cooper are not your top WRs entering 2017.

Now first off, it would help if gurley had a line in front of him. Second off, it would help not to go hang out with jayz instead of going to workouts. 

Mostly the 2nd, if gurley applies himself there is no reason he isn't a top 3 back. It is stunning how many players slack off like this after a first good year but I guess that's what comes with rostering young players.

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37 minutes ago, FlashGordon401 said:

http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/32959/rams-need-to-figure-out-how-to-get-todd-gurley-going-again

 

What a miserable 2016 season for Gurley. With LAR's lackluster WR corps causing opposing teams to stack the box, Gurley averaged less than 3.2 YPC and rushed for only 885 yards despite playing all 16 games. Early ADP for 12-team leagues is looking like mid- to late-2nd round. 

 

Personally, I'm not interested in him this year if the Rams don't draft or sign some solid wideouts to relieve pressure off TGIII. 

 

It's all about the OL OL OL.

 

Did I mention the OL?

 

Now Gurley didn't run well either but the OL was the primary issue.

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According to that article, Ottis Anderson ran the ball 1,023 times in '89. What a machine!

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Players get a few free games to perform. When an unknown player comes into the game after the season has started defenses are often not prepared. Guys like Zac Stacy for example were able to excel for that reason. When you have very limited or no NFL film on a player you often times do not account for them or underestimate them.

 

Gurley got his free games his rookie year. He had 4 good games and those 4 games apparently made him the next coming of A.P. A lot can be contributed to those games. Mostly the fact that the defenses either did not prepare for him or did not prepare right for him.

 

Since then? 

 

1/4 with 100 yards. 0.04%

8/24 with under 50 yards. 33%

 

Chew on that. Gurley has gotten under 50 yards 1/3rd of the time. He is 8 times more likely to go for under 50 than over 100. 

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6 minutes ago, Gohawks said:

Players get a few free games to perform. When an unknown player comes into the game after the season has started defenses are often not prepared. Guys like Zac Stacy for example were able to excel for that reason. When you have very limited or no NFL film on a player you often times do not account for them or underestimate them.

 

Gurley got his free games his rookie year. He had 4 good games and those 4 games apparently made him the next coming of A.P. A lot can be contributed to those games. Mostly the fact that the defenses either did not prepare for him or did not prepare right for him.

 

Since then? 

 

1/4 with 100 yards. 0.04%

8/24 with under 50 yards. 33%

 

Chew on that. Gurley has gotten under 50 yards 1/3rd of the time. He is 8 times more likely to go for under 50 than over 100. 

 

TRich did the same his first 2 years. The comparisons are more apt than many want to believe. 

 

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1 hour ago, FlashGordon401 said:

Forgot about Britt. And you're correct, Gurley looked like a plodder this season.

 

There wasn't a defensive coordinator in the league that ever said, "Man, we really need to contain Kenny Britt."

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Kenny Britt is a solid WR.  The problem is he's a knucklehead.  

 

I'm not going to hold last year against Gurley.  You'll notice that the entire coaching staff was fired due to the offense being as bad as it was.  

 

There is a glimmer of hope for the entire offense with McVay coming in.  It can only get better, right?

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1 hour ago, petekrum said:

 

There wasn't a defensive coordinator in the league that ever said, "Man, we really need to contain Kenny Britt."

 

Anyone who can get 1000 receiving yards in 15 games with those QBs and that offensive line in that division is plenty good enough to create room for a supposedly elite RB. 

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1 minute ago, shaft4783 said:

Kenny Britt is a solid WR.  The problem is he's a knucklehead.  

 

I'm not going to hold last year against Gurley.  You'll notice that the entire coaching staff was fired due to the offense being as bad as it was.  

 

There is a glimmer of hope for the entire offense with McVay coming in.  It can only get better, right?

 

I would have felt better if they had hired Trestman as OC as had been rumored a few weeks ago. 

 

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1 hour ago, shaft4783 said:

Kenny Britt is a solid WR.  The problem is he's a knucklehead.  

 

I'm not going to hold last year against Gurley.  You'll notice that the entire coaching staff was fired due to the offense being as bad as it was.  

 

There is a glimmer of hope for the entire offense with McVay coming in.  It can only get better, right?

No but you can hold nearly two seasons against him.

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32 minutes ago, Gohawks said:

No but you can hold nearly two seasons against him.

That's the thing too. Everyone wants to point out his "terrific" rookie year, which was really five great games right off the bat nearly all in a row (4 of 5, buoyed by long gains that have since all but disappeared), with two good games, and five mediocore to poor performances. Thankfully even in his bad games he was scoring TDs which helped his fantasy value.

 

But his performance since week 8 of 2015 is historically and almost impossibly awful.

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1 hour ago, Ffguy0087 said:

That's the thing too. Everyone wants to point out his "terrific" rookie year, which was really five great games right off the bat nearly all in a row (4 of 5, buoyed by long gains that have since all but disappeared), with two good games, and five mediocore to poor performances. Thankfully even in his bad games he was scoring TDs which helped his fantasy value.

 

But his performance since week 8 of 2015 is historically and almost impossibly awful.

 

This Rams offense has been historically and almost impossibly awful.  From the oline, to the qb, to the offensive gameplans and play calling.  

 

Has there been a worse situation the last two years?   Because the Rams were that bad in 2015 too, it's just that Gurley's brilliance caught the league off guard.

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9 hours ago, Gohawks said:

Players get a few free games to perform. When an unknown player comes into the game after the season has started defenses are often not prepared. Guys like Zac Stacy for example were able to excel for that reason. When you have very limited or no NFL film on a player you often times do not account for them or underestimate them.

 

Gurley got his free games his rookie year. He had 4 good games and those 4 games apparently made him the next coming of A.P. A lot can be contributed to those games. Mostly the fact that the defenses either did not prepare for him or did not prepare right for him.

 

Since then? 

 

1/4 with 100 yards. 0.04%

8/24 with under 50 yards. 33%

 

Chew on that. Gurley has gotten under 50 yards 1/3rd of the time. He is 8 times more likely to go for under 50 than over 100. 

I'm sure the film helps players formulate ways to bring down a 4.5 (probably even faster) freight train. 
To think that all 11 aren't "accounted for" on the field is absolutely absurd. It's the NFL, every player is accounted for. 

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7 hours ago, Gohawks said:

No but you can hold nearly two seasons against him.

He was a certified stud coming off a torn ACL his rookie year. Poor post.

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6 hours ago, Ffguy0087 said:

That's the thing too. Everyone wants to point out his "terrific" rookie year, which was really five great games right off the bat nearly all in a row (4 of 5, buoyed by long gains that have since all but disappeared), with two good games, and five mediocore to poor performances. Thankfully even in his bad games he was scoring TDs which helped his fantasy value.

 

But his performance since week 8 of 2015 is historically and almost impossibly awful.

Wrong again, he was bordering on the top 25 in breakaway runs THIS YEAR.
I know that isn't great but not disappeared as you want to remember. 

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4 hours ago, 96mnc said:

 

This Rams offense has been historically and almost impossibly awful.  From the oline, to the qb, to the offensive gameplans and play calling.  

 

Has there been a worse situation the last two years?   Because the Rams were that bad in 2015 too, it's just that Gurley's brilliance caught the league off guard.

Minnesota this past season was almost comparable. That's it.
Bradford, bad OL play, Diggs as the only weapon, Zimmer in and out with eye issues.

Jordan Howard was surrounded by no passing effort but his offensive line over performed greatly.

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56 minutes ago, CL3VELANDBR0WNS said:

Wrong again, he was bordering on the top 25 in breakaway runs THIS YEAR.
I know that isn't great but not disappeared as you want to remember. 

His longest run all year was what, 24 yards? His explosive game breaking runs that kept him afloat early last year have disapeared.

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3 hours ago, CL3VELANDBR0WNS said:

I'm sure the film helps players formulate ways to bring down a 4.5 (probably even faster) freight train. 
To think that all 11 aren't "accounted for" on the field is absolutely absurd. It's the NFL, every player is accounted for. 

Assuming Sanu is accounted for as much as Julio is utterly absurd which is what your post claims. Gurley was accounted for just not nearly as much nor with as much knowledge.

 

2 hours ago, CL3VELANDBR0WNS said:

He was a certified stud coming off a torn ACL his rookie year. Poor post.

After his first few flukey game his YPC and YPG were pretty bad and extremely inconsistent at an absolute best. Poor post.

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3 hours ago, CL3VELANDBR0WNS said:

He was a certified stud coming off a torn ACL his rookie year. Poor post.

Certified stud? Have you seen his game logs from week 8 on in 2015? They look an awful lot like the 2016 Todd Gurley, who was a certified flop.

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6 hours ago, Ffguy0087 said:

Certified stud? Have you seen his game logs from week 8 on in 2015? They look an awful lot like the 2016 Todd Gurley, who was a certified flop.

No, I don't look at game logs when evaluating a players season. 

To average almost 5 YPC and finish 3rd in the league in rush yards was all I needed to see.

2016 Todd had more volume but wasn't as efficient besides as a pass catcher, which is one area where he improved. This is why you all writing him off after one down season is going to come back  to bite you. He is going to bounce back as a runner and add in significant passing stats that were not there before.

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7 hours ago, Gohawks said:

Assuming Sanu is accounted for as much as Julio is utterly absurd which is what your post claims. Gurley was accounted for just not nearly as much nor with as much knowledge.

 

After his first few flukey game his YPC and YPG were pretty bad and extremely inconsistent at an absolute best. Poor post.

Todd doesn't play WR.

A top 15 pick and only talented player on his offense was certainly accounted for his rookie year.

 

Looking at game logs for a rookie is ridiculous. The overall body of work showed an efficient ball carrier and now an ascending pass catcher.

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47 minutes ago, CL3VELANDBR0WNS said:

Todd doesn't play WR.

A top 15 pick and only talented player on his offense was certainly accounted for his rookie year.

 

Looking at game logs for a rookie is ridiculous. The overall body of work showed an efficient ball carrier and now an ascending pass catcher.

 

This. 

 

Anyone doubting the focus that teams put towards stopping Gurley after they saw him destroy teams his first few games simply needs to put on game tape.  Eight man fronts and safeties flying downhill are what you'll see.   Total focus towards stopping Gurley with no regard or respect at all for the passing game.

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