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2017 WR Rankings

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On 9/2/2017 at 11:27 AM, A27K said:

 

Cool bro. We told you why we liked him and why his ADP was rising. Not sure why you're so negative on him and expect him to put up the same numbers with a QB who just threw for 5000 yds. 

And he is telling you why he DOESNT like him.  I dont see a problem here...

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1 hour ago, frog34 said:

After the top 2 tiers are gone (ending with Cooper/Baldwin/Cooks) there is amazing WR value on the board for quite a few rounds.

 

At 10/10 I went 4RB (Howard-Zeke-Lynch-Hyde). Rounds 5-8 I got Allen Robinson, Crabtree, Fitz and Parker. Crazy early (rookie) RB run made this possible.

 

If you can grab an elite WR early I'm all for it. But after going RB early and collecting WR value later I liked my teams much more.

In my 12 teamer in rounds 2-4 I went Cooper, Pryor, Hopkins. In the 7th...Sammy Watkins was still there. 

 

WR are crazy deep. It is the firsts fantasy draft in years that I didn't go BPA. If I went BPA..I would have went a wide receiver from all the rounds 2-7. 

 

 

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I really feel this was the year to go RB early and dive into those rounds 4-7 WR. So many teams will be hurting at RB this year so if you got a Gordon/Crowell combo and took Hopkins/Thomas/Allen tier potential WR1 you can be in great shape.

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Going to give this a try, gap means a tier

 

1. Brown

2. Julio

3. Beckham

4. Green

 

5. Evans

6. Michael Thomas

7. Jordy Nelson

 

8. Brandin Cooks

9. Keenan Allen

10. Tyreek Hill

11. Dez Bryant

12. Doug Baldwin

 

13. Stefon Diggs

14. D. Thomas

15. Hopkins

16. Fitzgerald

17. Michael Crabtree

18. Emmanual Sanders

19. T.Y. Hilton

 

20. Davante Adams

21. Amari Cooper

22. Alshon Jeffrey

23. Golden Tate

24. Jarvis Landry

25. Devante Parker

 

 

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20 minutes ago, graphite said:

 

 

 

It would be helpful if you specified what setting these rankings are for (STD / PPR). 

 

Hill in the top-10 is laughable IMO.

 

Edited by FlashGordon401

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Davante Adams is too high. He is terrible...cant catch or get open and Geronimo will eat into his snaps as Rodgers trusts him more

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10 minutes ago, Dr. Whom said:

Davante Adams is too high. He is terrible...cant catch or get open and Geronimo will eat into his snaps as Rodgers trusts him more

Adams isn’t going anywhere. Rodgers trusts Adams way more than Allison. I do like GERANIMO, but as long as cobb is healthy, he isn’t worth a spot imo

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26 minutes ago, FlashGordon401 said:

It would be helpful if you specified what setting these rankings are for (STD / PPR). 

 

Hill in the top-10 is laughable IMO.

 

 

9 minutes ago, Dr. Whom said:

Davante Adams is too high. He is terrible...cant catch or get open and Geronimo will eat into his snaps as Rodgers trusts him more

 

This was meant to be for standard. Your guys knowledge looking at your post history is probably better than mine on this, I just couldn't find anywhere that did accurate ROS rankings for trades so decided to make my own as a guide, seeing as people seem to only do week by week ones.

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15 minutes ago, PackerBacker555 said:

Adams isn’t going anywhere. Rodgers trusts Adams way more than Allison. I do like GERANIMO, but as long as cobb is healthy, he isn’t worth a spot imo

If you watch the games then you know better because I dont get them in my area...Adams has done nothing really this year and reports are that Rodgers does not even look his way. Tell me something I am missing because it looks like he is being phased out

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7 minutes ago, Dr. Whom said:

If you watch the games then you know better because I dont get them in my area...Adams has done nothing really this year and reports are that Rodgers does not even look his way. Tell me something I am missing because it looks like he is being phased out

They had a specific game plan last week for sure. He was running routes to clear out for the other receivers. Cobb is really what makes that group go this year. 

 

Allison is a serviceable WR but he will be nothing more than a 2-3 catch guy tops unless an injury comes. 

 

They were here trying to get Bennett going the first 3 games and for whatever reason, he can’t catch the ball. 

 

As for Adams, he looks a hell of A lot faster this year and looks like he lost some lbs. Adams stretched at the goal line last week and barely missed a td ( ruled a fumble on the field but after review he was clearly down). He made 2 great moves on that play alone and almost scored. He is a good wr and quicker this season. 

 

In previous years, he had s difficult time catching the ball but I don’t see it this year. 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Dr. Whom said:

If you watch the games then you know better because I dont get them in my area...Adams has done nothing really this year and reports are that Rodgers does not even look his way. Tell me something I am missing because it looks like he is being phased out

 

Literally a week ago he scored a touchdown with 8 grabs on 10 targets

 

where the f%^# do people get this stuff? My god

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First time really doing rankings this year. Full point ppr.  

 

1.Brown

2. Beckham 

3. Julio

4. Green 

 

5. Evans

6. Nelson

7. Cooks

8. M. Thomas 

 

9. Baldwin

10. K. Allen

11. T. Hill

12. D. Hopkins 

13.Diggs

 

14. D. Thomas

15. Dez

16. Tate

17. Fitz

18. Watkins 

 

19. Hogan

20. Sanders 

21. Hilton 

22. Theilen 

 

23. Crabtree

24. Cooper

25. Adams 

26. M Bryant 

 

27. Landry

28. D. Parker 

29.  Jeffrey

30. Garcon

 

31.  Maclin

32. Snead 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sammy Watkins looked phenomenal this past week. Him being traded a month before the season started influenced his slow start in my opinion. 

 

Look ok where he is ranked here. 

 

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr

 

Obviously the coaches know these numbers. They will start getting the ball to him more and more. In conclusion I do not see how someone would not have this guy top 25. 

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I really wanted to drop Dez even further but couldn't. He looks like trash this year though. His skills have eroded. 

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1 hour ago, Dr. Whom said:

If you watch the games then you know better because I dont get them in my area...Adams has done nothing really this year and reports are that Rodgers does not even look his way. Tell me something I am missing because it looks like he is being phased out

 

How is he being phased out?

 

He's WR19 in standard right now.

 

He's on pace for 75/1100/5 through 3 games and the TDs are likely to rise as Rodgers threw for 40 TDs last year and is only on pace for 32 thus far.

 

The biggest potential issue is that Adams' one huge game (week 2) came when both Jordy + Cobb were out.  But I think this is what the GB offense is like, everyone except for Jordy is going to be hit or miss with the ball being spread around but Adams' numbers will come out solid at the end of the year.  It should actually be encouraging that both Jordy and Cobb are already dealing with injuries and that Bennett has looked like a bust so far.

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Week 4 Update -- I did this last year and got a few messages about it so figured I'd start doing them again. I appreciate the feedback.

 

.5 PPR

 

TIER 1 - ELITE ELITE

1. Antonio Brown - He's the ultimate receiver. He can run any route, and creates separation better then anyone in the league. Big Ben doesn't perform well on the road, but Brown has the highest floor out of any receiver and is easily the top player at his position.

 

TIER 2 - ELITE

2. Odell Beckham Jr. - Whether you like him or hate him, you can't deny he's one of the most gifted talents in the game. His touchdown grabs last week show you why he is an elite receiver capable of taking a game over.

3. A.J. Green - The squeaky wheel got fixed last week. The offense doesn't look that great, especially the offensive line, but last Sunday it was evident that if they are to be successful the offense has to run through Green. I think he'll continue to see double digit plus targets and with Eifert out in the short-terrm, it should give him even more red zone opportunities.

4. Mike Evans - With all the added weapons, Evans will need Winston to progress to in order to continue to put up top 5 fantasy numbers. His career efficiency isn't that great, but appears to be getting more quality looks. The good thing about him is that he's already had has bye, making him just a bit more appealing if you are trading for him mid-season.

5.  Julio Jones - The lack of touchdowns so far is disappointing, and actually really puzzling throughout his career that he hasn't gotten the looks other elite receivers have. They have talked about getting him more red zone looks this year, but so far that hasn't been the case. I think he's due for some positive regression, although his floor is a little lower then his counterparts since a few games each year he's almost completely taken out of the game by opposing defenses.

6. Jordy Nelson - Another year and he's still catching touchdowns every game it seems. He's the favorite target of one of the best QB's in the league, so you can just count on WR1 numbers again this year as he continues to avoid the age decline.

 

TIER 3 - STRONG WR1 with ELITE UPSIDE

7. Michael Thomas - Brees likes to spread the ball around, but Thomas should get more consistent targets as he did last year as opposed to Cooks. Snead comes back this week which should improve the offense overall.


TIER 4 - BOOM/BUST WR1

8. Brandin Cooks - So far his role hasn't really changed from what he was doing with the Saints. He's one of the leagues best deep threats, and is the definition of boom or bust. He doesn't have the high floor you want from a WR1, but the big weeks will be big enough for you to get over the dud weeks here or there.

9. T.Y. Hilton - His valuation is tied to Andrew Luck's health. There are conflicting reports as to when Luck will return, and the Colts aren't playing the Browns at home every week, so you have to temper expectations when Jacoby Brissett could be throwing him the ball for half the season.

 

TIER 5 - SOLID WR1

10. Stefon Diggs - They say he's the next Antonio Brown, and he sure does look like it on film. Case Keenum came alive, but I'm still a bit cautious when it comes to him. The Vikings, like most teams are different when playing at home. And the Buccaneers, like most teams, were particularly bad defensively on the road. Hopefully Bradford returns soon, as it would give me more security for his season long outlook. He could very well be a riser in the coming weeks as if he wasn't already.

 

TIER 5 - LOW END WR1

11. Doug Baldwin - Did the offense finally awaken last week? It sure looked like what we expect out of Russell Wilson. They should continue to get right against the Colts at home this Sunday night. The offensive line is embarrassing, but Wilson can still extend plays with his legs and has great chemistry with Baldwin. As we've seen the past couple of years, when Wilson is healthy, Baldwin is a WR1 so we have to treat him as such.

12.  Amari Cooper - I think he's a pretty polarizing player and frustrates a lot of owners, especially when he is continually outproduced by Crabtree. I tend to believe Cooper is still the guy to own as he's still young and entering that magical "third year". The drops are a bit of an issue but I don't think it's anything to worry about long term and hopefully he can be the WR1 everyone hopes he can be.

 

TIER 6 - STRONG WR2

13. Keenan Allen - A tactical route runner in a great situation; however, Mike Williams is a guy to watch as he appears to be close to returning. I still think Allen has the trust of Rivers to be the number one option this year even with Williams, but Allen needs volume to be successful as he is not a field stretcher.

14. Demaryius Thomas - A high floor receiver that has yet to find the end zone and is being out-produced by his teammate. With that said, I am still a believer and think the touchdowns will come. I think he's in line for a very similar line as last year, so he's a high WR2 with and one of the safer bets at the position.

15.  DeAndre Hopkins - The targets are coming like it's 2015. Will Fuller is returning which is underrated. If Watson can develop, things should open up a bit downfield for Nuk as his yards per target rank near the bottom of the league.

16. Tyreek Hill - One of the leagues freakish athletes that commands the ball. I think he's utilized perfectly, and the big play threat mixed with the manufactured touches make him a high upside receiver with a decently high floor for a "gadget" player.

17. Micheal Crabtree - The underappreciated WR. Some will argue that he should be above Cooper, and I totally get the argument. I just slightly prefer Cooper from a floor perspective (although we saw how low the floor is for both of them last week). He's a red zone specialist though, making him a very high upside play each week.

 

TIER 7 - BOOM/BUST WR2

18. Alshon Jeffrey - Wentz is growing, as is his relationship with Jeffrey. I think things will get better for both of them as the season progresses, as Alshon has always been one of the top producers on a points per game basis. He just needs to stay healthy.

19.  Sammy Watkins - This is a guy that could be higher with each passing week. He's still getting acclimated with that offense, but we got a glimpse of what can be when he gets the ball. Not every team will be the 49ers, and he does have a brutal schedule, but he is a top talent and I think they'll figure out a way to get him the ball as the season wears on.

20.  Dez Bryant - I'm not a huge fan, although the determination of on the touchdown last week was pretty awesome. It's just a run first team and I'm not overly sold on Dak as a passer. There will be nice weeks, but the floor is too low for me to recommend him at his price point.


TIER 8 - SOLID WR2

21.  Devante Adams - There are a lot of mouths to feed on that offense, but he's a TD threat each week and is on one of the best offenses in the league.

22.  Golden Tate - He winds up in this range every year. It's nothing flashy, but you can count on WR2 production as he's usually around 90 catches each year.

 

TIER 9 - LOW END WR2

23.  Emanuel Sanders - Very similar to the situation in Oakland right now, but Thomas is still my preferred target.

24.  DeVante Parker - Last week's stat line looked good, but it was literally all in garbage time. The Saints are in town this week so it could be a good week, but the offense and Cutler doesn't look to be as good as we thought so the hype could be just that yet again for him.

25.  Larry Fitzgerald - Mr. Consistent. We saw Monday night why he is a future Hall of Famer. It seems like he starts out hot every year in recent memory, but I am not really sold on that offense without David Johnson. I do think Fitzgerald has a very nice WR2 floor, but doubt he's going to have many weeks like last week. If he does, he should be way higher and I wouldn't count him out on proving me wrong.

 

Honorable Mentions: Pierre Garcon, Chris Hogan, Adam Thielen, Jarvis Landry, Corey Davis

 

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On 9/26/2017 at 8:56 PM, chud12 said:

I really wanted to drop Dez even further but couldn't. He looks like trash this year though. His skills have eroded. 

 

If anything people  should be buying low on him. He just went up against two of the toughest coverages he will see all season and scored two TDs.

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2 hours ago, Nyblazer11235 said:

Where is Gordon ranked ?

 

If he comes back I think he's immediately a WR2 in all 10 team leagues. People here can say "He hasn't played football since 2014", but take a hard look at Cleveland's WR situation with Coleman out for the year and tell me the opportunity to become a high end WR2 isn't there. Kizer is playing well enough to make it happen too.

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Sleeping on Mike Evans. He's was the most targeted receiver last year and I don't see anything has changed this year except that he continues to grow as well as Winston. The sky is the limit for the kid.

 

Like Ben on AB, Winston has a radar lock on Evans. Evans will score more TDs than anyone in the league to along with 100 plus catches.

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3 hours ago, throwinsamoan said:

Sleeping on Mike Evans. He's was the most targeted receiver last year and I don't see anything has changed this year except that he continues to grow as well as Winston. The sky is the limit for the kid.

 

Like Ben on AB, Winston has a radar lock on Evans. Evans will score more TDs than anyone in the league to along with 100 plus catches.

How is anybody sleeping on Evans.  Most have him consistently ranked in top 5 with Brown, OBJ, Julio and AJG.  A case can be made for any of those guys as the number 2 to Brown.    

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32 minutes ago, youngrice said:

How is anybody sleeping on Evans.  Most have him consistently ranked in top 5 with Brown, OBJ, Julio and AJG.  A case can be made for any of those guys as the number 2 to Brown.    

Because I'm seeing him ranked consistently in a second or third tier WR groupings. He's gonna be the top guy when all is said and done this season.

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