BlakeP42

2017 FF DYNASTY START UP

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1 hour ago, petekrum said:

 

Welcome good to have you.

 

 

Thanks, appreciate the invite. Looking forward to it.

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Some things I've learned in my dynasty years...

 

Make people pay a year in advance so for instance we'd pay for 2017 and 2018 now.   This covers the league's ass if someone runs their team into the ground  and wants to bail.  At least the new owner gets a free year to clean up the mess.  It also creates a defacto two year commitment.  So prior to the 2018 draft we'd pay for the 2019 season.   If trading of draft picks two years out is allowed then payment for that year must be made then as well.   So if I wanted to trade 2019 draft picks during the 2017 season I have to pay for 2019 right away. 

 

Non-snake draft. 

 

Just want to get clarification that this is a true dynasty league where we keep everyone,  not a keeper league. 

 

Roster size must be decided on prior to the initial draft and the decision if rosters will be expanded or remain static (requiring cuts for new draft picks) also should be decided during initial setup.

 

Just some thoughts.

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Ok gentleman, we have our 12, so here is what we're looking at.

 

This will be a Devy Dynasty, meaning you will keep all your players from year to year, but may have to release some each year to make room for your incoming rookies. We will begin with a slow offline snake draft like we used last year to draft our initial teams. After the startup draft we will have a 4 round devy draft. For those unsure of what a devy draft is, you can draft ANY player who is not currently in the NFL and when that player makes it to the NFL, you hold his rights, so if there is a high school kid in your area you are sure will be a star, you can draft him and hold his rights until he makes the NFL at which time he goes directly unto your roster. The picking order for the devy draft will be the exact opposite of the startup draft order, so if you pick first in the startup draft, you will pick last in the devy. The first year of the devy draft will be a snake draft, but in subsequent years the devy draft will run just like the NFL draft, meaning the worst team will have the first pick in each round. For those of you who aren't that up on college players, just search Devy rankings. There are a ton of sights with plenty of rankings.

 

OTHER SETTINGS

 

LM only veto

Waivers,...move to last after claim

Offensive positions,....QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, Flex, Flex

16 player bench. May expand if we use IDPs

 

 

 

 

VOTE ON THESE

 

Standard, .5, or 1 point ppr

IDPs,....yes or no....................if yes I would suggest something like: LB, LB, DL, DL, DB, DB, DP

Two 6 team divisions or one 12 team division

13 game season, top 6 teams in with top two getting a bye or 14 game season with top 4 teams getting in

4 point or 6 point TDs for QBs

1, 2, 3, or no IR

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im sure I've missed some things, but these are the broad strokes. Feel free to chime in.

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My votes:

 

.5 

IDP- No but not a big deal

one 12 team division - randomize extra matchups 

13 game season, top 6 teams in with top two getting a bye

4 point  TDs for QBs

2 IR

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Throwing my two cent preferences in:

 

Waivers: could we consider  FAAB vs. traditional waivers?

Roster Size: consider deeper starting line-ups (move from 8 to at least 10), especially since we will be without the K/DEF positions

Roster Size: and a deeper bench than 16 (one of my dynasty's is 12 team 42 roster for 500+ player pool; this dynasty league would be 12x24 for 288)

Flex: prefer that these slots are not a QB eligible.

 

.5 PPR works, but I'll do any

IDP: no interest

13 game season, 2 byes

4 point QB TDs, but consider adding for length? (ex. +1 for 35-49 yards, +2 for 50+ yards)

2 IR

 

I am flexible around anything listed, except IDP... just not interested in IDP...

 

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10 minutes ago, Winky said:

Throwing my two cent preferences in:

 

Waivers: could we consider  FAAB vs. traditional waivers?

Roster Size: consider deeper starting line-ups (move from 8 to at least 10), especially since we will be without the K/DEF positions

Roster Size: and a deeper bench than 16 (one of my dynasty's is 12 team 42 roster for 500+ player pool; this dynasty league would be 12x24 for 288)

Flex: prefer that these slots are not a QB eligible.

 

.5 PPR works, but I'll do any

IDP: no interest

13 game season, 2 byes

4 point QB TDs, but consider adding for length? (ex. +1 for 35-49 yards, +2 for 50+ yards)

2 IR

 

I am flexible around anything listed, except IDP... just not interested in IDP...

 

 

Addressing your concerns Winky,....

 

i think we could consider adding a third WR to the starting lineup. There will be no QBs in the flex. I'd be willing to go as deep as a 20 man bench, but no further. Want to have some players on waivers.

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My Votes

 

.5 ppr

no IDP

Two 6 team divisions

13 game season, 6 get in, top two get byes

4 point TDs for QBs

3 IR spots.

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35 minutes ago, petekrum said:

My Votes

 

.5 ppr

no IDP

Two 6 team divisions

13 game season, 6 get in, top two get byes

4 point TDs for QBs

3 IR spots.

X2

I also vote traditional waivers

Bench anywhere from 16-20 is fine, but it is nice to have some players on waivers as pete said.

No qb flex, 3 wr or 2 flex is fine either way. No preference there. Or are we talking about doing 3 wr AND 2 flex? Either way is okay with me again, just clarifying

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On 5/28/2017 at 7:02 PM, petekrum said:

 

VOTE ON THESE

 

Standard, .5, or 1 point ppr

IDPs,....yes or no....................if yes I would suggest something like: LB, LB, DL, DL, DB, DB, DP

Two 6 team divisions or one 12 team division

13 game season, top 6 teams in with top two getting a bye or 14 game season with top 4 teams getting in

4 point or 6 point TDs for QBs

1, 2, 3, or no IR

 

.5 ppr

no idp

one 12 team division

13 game season, top 6 teams in with top two getting a bye

4pt pas tds

3 IR

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On 5/28/2017 at 6:02 PM, petekrum said:

VOTE ON THESE

 

Standard, .5, or 1 point ppr

IDPs,....yes or no....................if yes I would suggest something like: LB, LB, DL, DL, DB, DB, DP

Two 6 team divisions or one 12 team division

13 game season, top 6 teams in with top two getting a bye or 14 game season with top 4 teams getting in

4 point or 6 point TDs for QBs

1, 2, 3, or no IR

 

Back from a busy holiday weekend, really happy to see everyone on board with this league, i expect it to be a lot of fun for years to come.

 

my votes:

 

.5 PPR 

IDP:   No is fine by me 

One division, 12 teams

13 game reg season, top 6 make the PO's, top two get byes

4ppTD for QB's

2 IR spots

Waivers: first to last format / no FAAB format, traditional

i'd say bench needs to be 16-18 deep

Format: this will def not be a 2 QB type league.  My vote would be:  QB, RB , RB, WR, WR, TE, FlexRB/WR, FlexRB/WR

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VOTES:

1 pt PPR.

IDP- No

One 12 team division - Randomize Matchups.

13 game season, top 6 teams in with top two getting a bye

6 point  TDs for QBs

2 IR

Bonus WInky Section:

Waivers: Would prefer FAAB, especially in dynasty.

Lineup Size: consider deeper starting line-ups.  I think this makes sense, if anything add another flex or we can do 2 QB.  With 12 owners that works.

Roster Size:  Of my two fav dynasty leagues, one has 26 players per team 312 owned overall, the other 21 for 252 owned.  Those are pretty good, since there is still some waiver wire talent.  I do think a 42 player roster  sounds interesting, I'd like to play in one of those someday.

I wouldn't mind doing 2 QBs, but it seems like you guys are against it.

 

 

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On 5/28/2017 at 6:02 PM, petekrum said:

OTHER SETTINGS

 

LM only veto

Waivers,...move to last after claim

Offensive positions,....QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, Flex, Flex

16 player bench. May expand if we use IDPs

 

 

 

 

VOTE ON THESE

 

Standard, .5, or 1 point ppr

IDPs,....yes or no....................if yes I would suggest something like: LB, LB, DL, DL, DB, DB, DP

Two 6 team divisions or one 12 team division

13 game season, top 6 teams in with top two getting a bye or 14 game season with top 4 teams getting in

4 point or 6 point TDs for QBs

1, 2, 3, or no IR

 

@JHM_13 @96mnc @Lord_Varys @mrblonde1984 @Impreza178

 

when you guys can, lets go ahead and caste your votes for the initial start up here as presented by Pete.  That way we can  set these in place, then move onto other items to discuss/vote on

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On 5/28/2017 at 7:02 PM, petekrum said:

VOTE ON THESE

 

Standard, .5, or 1 point ppr

IDPs,....yes or no....................if yes I would suggest something like: LB, LB, DL, DL, DB, DB, DP

Two 6 team divisions or one 12 team division

13 game season, top 6 teams in with top two getting a bye or 14 game season with top 4 teams getting in

4 point or 6 point TDs for QBs

1, 2, 3, or no IR

 

My votes:

1) Standard

2) IDPs NOOOOOOO

3) 12 team division

4) Top 4 teams get in (Half the league seems like a bit much)

5) 6 points per Passing TD

6) 3 IR

 

Prefer traditional waivers, 2RB 2WR 1TE 2FLX.  If there's no K or DEF then 16 roster spots seems OK.

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24 minutes ago, Lord_Varys said:

Top 4 teams get in (Half the league seems like a bit much)

we can get into more detail on this and i was thinking it over as well.  I was considering going with 6 PO teams and making the 6th team most points scored for the regular season, as we did in our recent ROTO 14 teamer.  That was a fun option.  I play in one dynasty that only takes 4 PO teams and it is fun/hard to make the show, so either option i can be good with.  I just like the idea of letting 6 teams in, but maybe that is bc i've seen so many owners over the years make the show in that 5 or 6 hole, then get on a run to win it all.  I think its fun to watch teams 3 through 6 fight it out in week 14 to get to the top 2 contenders to continue their PO push.

 

I don't want to get ahead of ourselves tho here, just thinking out loud.  We can get all votes in on the initial basic settings, then expand from there.

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21 minutes ago, BlakeP42 said:

we can get into more detail on this and i was thinking it over as well.  I was considering going with 6 PO teams and making the 6th team most points scored for the regular season, as we did in our recent ROTO 14 teamer.  That was a fun option.  I play in one dynasty that only takes 4 PO teams and it is fun/hard to make the show, so either option i can be good with.  I just like the idea of letting 6 teams in, but maybe that is bc i've seen so many owners over the years make the show in that 5 or 6 hole, then get on a run to win it all.  I think its fun to watch teams 3 through 6 fight it out in week 14 to get to the top 2 contenders to continue their PO push.

 

I don't want to get ahead of ourselves tho here, just thinking out loud.  We can get all votes in on the initial basic settings, then expand from there.

 

I would vote strongly in favor of the last playoff spot being a function of total points for, same as our 14-teamer.

 

I will still disagree that half the league should make the playoffs, but everyone gets a vote and it's not a major deal one way or the other.  IDPs on the other hand... lol

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1 hour ago, BlakeP42 said:

 

 

@JHM_13 @96mnc @Lord_Varys @mrblonde1984 @Impreza178

 

when you guys can, lets go ahead and caste your votes for the initial start up here as presented by Pete.  That way we can  set these in place, then move onto other items to discuss/vote on

 

Full ppr

No idp

No IR

One division

6 points passing

 

FWIW, I feel STRONGLY that the last playoff spot should go to most points scored.

 

As for the number of playoff teams, I don't have a strong opinion on that.   I DO have a strong opinion that on a dynasty league the payouts should be spilt 50/50 between regular season performance and playoffs.    For example using $1000 in the pool and assuming 6 playoff teams:

 

500 regular season

200 to best record

100 to second

40 each to the other playoff teams

40 to most points scored 

 

 

 

500 playoffs 

300 to league winner

150 to second

50 to third

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Id vote 6 teams in playoffs with byes personally 

Since weve been tossing around the idea of a free league, regular season leaders wouldnt really be rewarded for doing so well during the season. Always felt they should get a little some I.E a bye week. If were doing money, different story. Not like we should have a problem with this group, but it keeps alot more teams invested till the very end as well. No easy pick ups or easy wins.

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So far with 9 people voting

 

ppr.......six vote for .5

            Two vote for 1                           .5 wins

            One vote for standard

 

IDP.......Nine votes for no.                      No IDP wins

 

Divisions.......Seven votes for one 12 team division           12 team division wins

 

Playoffs......Seven votes for 6 teams in               6 teams in, top two get bye wins

 

QB TD.....Six votes for 4 points

                Three votes for 6 points

 

IR.........Four votes for 3 spots

            Four votes for 2 spots

            One vote for no spots

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On 5/28/2017 at 7:02 PM, petekrum said:

VOTE ON THESE

Standard, .5, or 1 point ppr

IDPs,....yes or no....................if yes I would suggest something like: LB, LB, DL, DL, DB, DB, DP

Two 6 team divisions or one 12 team division

13 game season, top 6 teams in with top two getting a bye or 14 game season with top 4 teams getting in

4 point or 6 point TDs for QBs

1, 2, 3, or no IR

 

Full ppr

No IDP

12 team division

14 game season, top 4 playoffs

4 point TD passes

3 IR spots

 

*would like last team in playoffs the highest scoring team not in the top 3 at season's end.

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What website do you think we'll us for this league?

I have a couple dynasties on yahoo already and that site has worked well through the years.

I'll go with anything, but was curious.

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24 minutes ago, Winky said:

What website do you think we'll us for this league?

I have a couple dynasties on yahoo already and that site has worked well through the years.

I'll go with anything, but was curious.

me and Pete have been on ESPN doing dynasties for a while and i like it a good bit.    I've never done a yahoo dynasty, only redraft leagues.

 

The issue i was thinking of we ran into on Yahoo was, if say we make the final playoff spot open to the owner who scores the most regular season points, Yahoo does not allow the LM to make the in season changes to the playoff bracket.  We ran into this in our 14 team ROTO league last season.

I think ESPN allows the LM to customize the brackets accordingly, but i need to go and check on that to make sure.  Im thinking either ESPN or Yahoo though.

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Can I edit my league's playoff matchup?
"Yes, if you are the commish of your league! On the "LM Tools" page the commish can manually edit any matchup/result from the regular season and/or playoffs to change schedules and eliminate byes." -ESPN FF SITE
 
 
^^^this is what i like about the ESPN site.  Anyone with more YAHOO FF site experience know if this is possible if its a dynasty format??    
 
If say we move forward with the idea of the final playoff spot going to the owner with the most points scored, i want that player to be added to the playoff bracket.  Last year in the 14 team ROTO league, we were unable to make this happen on Yahoo

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49 minutes ago, BlakeP42 said:
Can I edit my league's playoff matchup?
"Yes, if you are the commish of your league! On the "LM Tools" page the commish can manually edit any matchup/result from the regular season and/or playoffs to change schedules and eliminate byes." -ESPN FF SITE
 
 
^^^this is what i like about the ESPN site.  Anyone with more YAHOO FF site experience know if this is possible if its a dynasty format??    
 
If say we move forward with the idea of the final playoff spot going to the owner with the most points scored, i want that player to be added to the playoff bracket.  Last year in the 14 team ROTO league, we were unable to make this happen on Yahoo

 

Id say we will use Espn.

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Another vote for espn, the freedom is outstanding. Could literally alter anything from scores to matchups to seeds to teams to pick ups etc.

Maybe i just dont know yahoo as well tho

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