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12/25-17 Steelers @ texans

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1 yard away.. my opponent has hopkins, i have bell. we are tied 90/90. tie breaker goes to him. f--- me

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Why not just close out the last 5 minutes. Come on lol. 

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Just now, Gambit04 said:

that nix touchdown though....

 

Probably cost me my match. 

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2 minutes ago, Gambit04 said:

that nix touchdown though....

killing me. would be so much more comfortable if Bell got that

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Just now, vthokie3 said:

killing me. would be so much more comfortable if Bell got that

same im up 4 now with ertz vs his agholor

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15 minutes ago, Gohawks said:

If you think Hopkins is better than Brown you are delusional.

I think Brown greatly benefits from a better team than Brown.

 

I also think Hopkins is more mature than Brown.

 

AB - 13.5 YPC

Hopkins - 14.1 YPC

AB - 0.080 TD / Catch

Hopkins - 0.085 TD / Catch

 

AB does beat out Hopkins on a / game basis in many stats, but as I said, AB has benefited from a superior team for most of his career (8 years) compared to Hopkins (5 Years) who has had no less than 2 QBs throwing to him each year: 2013 (2), 2014 (3), 2015 (3), 2016 (2), 2017 (3).

 

Overall, these guys are pretty equal in terms of production, but Hopkins is doing it with a ****tier team.

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bell shouldn't have lost yards on one of his catches.. should've been forward progress instead he lost yards and lost a point :(

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More hopkins garbage time u can't make this up!

2 minutes ago, Holben said:

I think Brown greatly benefits from a better team than Brown.

 

I also think Hopkins is more mature than Brown.

 

AB - 13.5 YPC

Hopkins - 14.1 YPC

AB - 0.080 TD / Catch

Hopkins - 0.085 TD / Catch

 

AB does beat out Hopkins on a / game basis in many stats, but as I said, AB has benefited from a superior team for most of his career (8 years) compared to Hopkins (5 Years)

 

Overall, these guys are pretty equal in terms of production, but Hopkins is doing it with a ****tier team.

 

You can also argue that Hopkins gets most of his stats in garbage time vs brown on a team always in catchup mode against defenses playing soft coverage to prevent the big downfield play. So he isnt really a contributor in the 1st half of the game.

 

Either way it's a silly debate because they are completely different types of wr, with different styles of play on different teams.

We all know Josh is the only true transcendental wr talent in the NFL today

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That's a wrap Hopkins owners. Could have been much more with a half-decent QB.

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3 minutes ago, FML said:

That's a wrap Hopkins owners. Could have been much more with a half-decent QB.

Are you telling me that TJ Yates isn't a HOF bound QB?!?

 

I beg to god that we don't see another amazing WR career go to absolute waste with JAG QBs like Larry Fitzgerald has dealt with.

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4 minutes ago, dashoe said:

More hopkins garbage time u can't make this up!

 

You can also argue that Hopkins gets most of his stats in garbage time vs brown on a team always in catchup mode against defenses playing soft coverage to prevent the big downfield play. So he isnt really a contributor in the 1st half of the game.

 

Either way it's a silly debate because they are completely different types of wr, with different styles of play on different teams.

We all know Josh is the only true transcendental wr talent in the NFL today

I'm guessing the Josh comment was tongue in cheek?  Also I'd like to know why Hopkins and AB are completely different types of wr?

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5 minutes ago, dashoe said:

 

We all know Josh is the only true transcendental wr talent in the NFL today

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Just now, ccimore said:

I'm guessing the Josh comment was tongue in cheek?  Also I'd like to know why Hopkins and AB are completely different types of wr?

No it is not. Josh Gordon is on another level. Better than Rice in every aspect the problem is he has Kizer throwing him the ball.

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2 minutes ago, Gohawks said:

No it is not. Josh Gordon is on another level. Better than Rice in every aspect the problem is he has Kizer throwing him the ball.

 

#delusional

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1 hour ago, Gohawks said:

No it is not. Josh Gordon is on another level. Better than Rice in every aspect the problem is he has Kizer throwing him the ball.

There's more to being a transcendental talent than being big, strong, and fast.  For instance footwork and route running are very important aspects of the wr position.  There are wr's in the league that blow Gordon away in this respect.  For instance, AB and OBJ.  Why are these not considered transcendental?  Because they are not as big, strong, and fast?

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On 12/25/2017 at 6:38 PM, ccimore said:

There's more to being a transcendent talent than being big, strong, and fast.  For instance footwork and route running are very important aspects of the wr position.  There are wr's in the league that blow Gordon away in this respect.  For instance, AB and OBJ.  Why are these not considered transcendent?  Because they are not as big, strong, and fast?

 

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