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Dalvin Cook 2018 Outlook

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7 minutes ago, MJ10162 said:

McKinnon owners beat their chests and ran their mouths about how great their pickup was, meanwhile Latavius owners just enjoyed the goal line role and scoring more points than those that had McKinnon. Both groups of owners got production, McKinnon was significantly less reliable as he had bigger games, 1 group (sounds like yours) was just more irritating about it.

 

no i owned Cook and lost him for the year, wasn't able to get Murray or McKinnon but followed them closely, not sure why you insist on making the asumptions of my roster, but to each their own. don't really remember any chest beating but since Murray was first in line i'd imagine most of the chest beating coming from the Murray side, when Cook went down.  McKinnon was an after thought, a supposed change of pace 3rd down/passing down rb, then he exploded and dominated till the bye week and like i said after the bye week they both had their turn and both were effective after Murray got healthy and back up to game speed.

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14 minutes ago, eg4190 said:

I’m still not reading too much into his being ruled out on Friday versus being a gametime decision as it relates to his Thursday availability.  The Vikings don’t have a history of playing games with the injury report, and you could give the current Bills defense a month to review tape of both Cook and Murray and it wouldn’t make any difference to the final outcome.

 

Besides, if Cook is out next Thursday we’ll know well before gametime and we can roll out any other combination of RBs. It’s not like he’s going to make us agonize over the Q tag for a Monday night game.

 

not like the match up is all that great for Thursday anyways, it would be more volume based play, than a OMG he is going to break the scoring the for the week kind of matchup

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If you owned Cook, you should have taken Murray late especially when speculation with playing time was a factor in preseason. Easy plug and play. Short week and hammy does not bode well for Week 4 also.

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52 minutes ago, nonstopfan said:

If you owned Cook, you should have taken Murray late especially when speculation with playing time was a factor in preseason. Easy plug and play. Short week and hammy does not bode well for Week 4 also.

Latavius Murray doesn't interest me. I own Cook but I'd rather take a pick with more upside than Murray - especially in keeper leagues.

 

If you are happy playing Murray then great but he doesn't excite me much.  Rest up Cook and get back soon.

 

I expected Cook to get off to a bit of a slow start as he works his way back into the game after knee surgery. A little extra rest now isn't a bad thing to be honest.  Get healthy for the stretch run.

 

Plus, its just a cramp.  Not worried.

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13 minutes ago, Big Nate said:

Latavius Murray doesn't interest me. I own Cook but I'd rather take a pick with more upside than Murray - especially in keeper leagues.

 

If you are happy playing Murray then great but he doesn't excite me much.  Rest up Cook and get back soon.

 

I expected Cook to get off to a bit of a slow start as he works his way back into the game after knee surgery. A little extra rest now isn't a bad thing to be honest.  Get healthy for the stretch run.

 

Plus, its just a cramp.  Not worried.

 

it's obviously more than a cramp, otherwise someone call Guinness World Record people and let them know that Cook is setting the record for  "Worlds longest lasting cramp" 

 

Murray against possibly the worst team in the league this year and definitely one of the worse run defenses this year and the worst last year sure as hell interests me and i'm sure interests just about everyone else playing fantasy football who don't have Gurley and Zeke firmly planted in starting lineups

 

the MIN running game has shown to be a high RB2, low RB1 producing running game regardless of if it was Cook/Mckinnon/Murray getting the call, what kind of upside are you looking for?  because i don't see it getting much better than this. only other situations that even compare would be

 

PIT - which has shown  to be great no matter who they put back there

LAR - we'd expect the Gurley replacement to be a bellcow but hasn't proven to be true

DAL - if oline is fully healthy Smith showed he can do the job

 

where is this upside you speak of from a late round pick?  CIN with Bernard doesn't offer it, ATL with Coleman has similar upside but Coleman would have cost a mid round pick and even then doesn't offer the same upside as those 3 three teams would. 

 

looks like "denial is just a river in Egypt"

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5 minutes ago, banana said:

Lol at ppl still thinking this is a cramp. 

It's not a cramp but if he's doing drills on the side he's fine.  It's not a long term injury.  Just annoying when they face Suckallo.

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3 hours ago, Panthor said:

 

it's obviously more than a cramp, otherwise someone call Guinness World Record people and let them know that Cook is setting the record for  "Worlds longest lasting cramp" 

 

Murray against possibly the worst team in the league this year and definitely one of the worse run defenses this year and the worst last year sure as hell interests me and i'm sure interests just about everyone else playing fantasy football who don't have Gurley and Zeke firmly planted in starting lineups

 

the MIN running game has shown to be a high RB2, low RB1 producing running game regardless of if it was Cook/Mckinnon/Murray getting the call, what kind of upside are you looking for?  because i don't see it getting much better than this. only other situations that even compare would be

 

PIT - which has shown  to be great no matter who they put back there

LAR - we'd expect the Gurley replacement to be a bellcow but hasn't proven to be true

DAL - if oline is fully healthy Smith showed he can do the job

 

where is this upside you speak of from a late round pick?  CIN with Bernard doesn't offer it, ATL with Coleman has similar upside but Coleman would have cost a mid round pick and even then doesn't offer the same upside as those 3 three teams would. 

 

looks like "denial is just a river in Egypt"

League type matters. Give me Coleman/Gio over Lat in PPR any day of the week. Agree if it’s Standard. 

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I love Dalvin Cook for next year. I pissed myself more than once during drafts seeing him up around 15. He went before Michael Thomas and Melvin Gordon in my draft. Love the player, love the talent. Let's regroup next year when you are fully healthy.

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1 minute ago, Benjamin1984 said:

I love Dalvin Cook for next year. I pissed myself more than once during drafts seeing him up around 15. He went before Michael Thomas and Melvin Gordon in my draft. Love the player, love the talent. Let's regroup next year when you are fully healthy.

Before Gordon is a poor decision but let's not act like anyone knew Thomas would start this hot.

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8 hours ago, Big Nate said:

Latavius Murray doesn't interest me. I own Cook but I'd rather take a pick with more upside than Murray - especially in keeper leagues.

 

If you are happy playing Murray then great but he doesn't excite me much.  Rest up Cook and get back soon.

 

I expected Cook to get off to a bit of a slow start as he works his way back into the game after knee surgery. A little extra rest now isn't a bad thing to be honest.  Get healthy for the stretch run.

 

Plus, its just a cramp.  Not worried.

 

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18 hours ago, Big Nate said:

I expected Cook to get off to a bit of a slow start as he works his way back into the game after knee surgery. A little extra rest now isn't a bad thing to be honest.  Get healthy for the stretch run.

 

Getting healthy for the stretch run is not starting somewhere between Week 10 and Week 12, not Week 3. 

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52 minutes ago, FreakFries said:

time share like last year with Cookin the J McK role upon his return?

 

I surely hope so. that gives Murray owners a RB2 RB3, then makes Cook a complete PPR GOLDMINE, he already is but he'll be the undoubtably pass catching RB with murray being the bruiser. Kamara/Ingram perhaps? Cook should have always been the specialist catching balls out the backfield and not take the beating from jump street. He really doesn't need that many touches to cause damage.

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3 minutes ago, CABLE87 said:

 

I surely hope so. that gives Murray owners a RB2 RB3, then makes Cook a complete PPR GOLDMINE, he already is but he'll be the undoubtably pass catching RB with murray being the bruiser. Kamara/Ingram perhaps? Cook should have always been the specialist catching balls out the backfield and not take the beating from jump street. He really doesn't need that many touches to cause damage.

Dumb trolls.  Go to the Lat Murray thread.

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1 hour ago, FreakFries said:

time share like last year with Cookin the J McK role upon his return?

It was like a 75-25 snap count split through the first 2 weeks I'm not sure I see quite a 1A, 1B situation like last year especially with not as clear of roles. A split closer to 60-40 seems more reasonable to me especially until Cook is healthy. It isn't like the hammy injury was connected to the ACL from last year but I think Vikings will try to be a little more conscious of Cook's workload especially with Murray showing he is capable of handling the rock (and should reinforce that this week). 

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Is there any indication that this is a multi-week injury?  Hamstrings can be tricky but I didn't see any reports that there was huge concern.  The short turn-around to Thursday game might mean we are without him another week as well?

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3 minutes ago, CooL said:

Is there any indication that this is a multi-week injury?  Hamstrings can be tricky but I didn't see any reports that there was huge concern.  The short turn-around to Thursday game might mean we are without him another week as well?

Seems relatively minor, I would think the realistic worst-case scenario is that he misses TNF next week.

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16 minutes ago, CooL said:

Is there any indication that this is a multi-week injury?  Hamstrings can be tricky but I didn't see any reports that there was huge concern.  The short turn-around to Thursday game might mean we are without him another week as well?

 

The fact that the HC said he wasn’t sure if he’d be ready for the Vikes is probably some indication, yes.

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15 minutes ago, BMcP said:

 

The fact that the HC said he wasn’t sure if he’d be ready for the Vikes is probably some indication, yes.

 

agreed.  

 

and that says alot, especially considering the Vikes are 1/2 game behind the Rams (due to the tie) ... i can see the Rams going 14-2, if not 15-1 ... they are such a complete team, in all facets of the game. if they steer clear of the injury bug, look the hell out. (pegged them vs Jags for SB in preseason)  

 

the Vikes are not too far behind, but, without Cook, it diminishes.  that #1 seed may very well be decided Thursday night - speaking of which, this is the best TNight matchup i can recall - both of them are elite, SB timber teams.  

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For fantasy purposes he's pretty much out for 2 weeks. Obviously he's out this weekend in real life and I can't see starting him next thursday coming off a hamstring injury against that Rams defense. That means you're going to be heading in to week 5 with a RB you took in the first 2 rounds who's had one healthy unproductive game, 1 game in which he left due to an injury that he and the team lied about being a cramp, a game he missed due to said injury, and a game where he's coming off injury against a top 3 defense. I have found the Dalvin Cook experience to be frustrating so far. 

 

Also keep in mind how the Vikings handled Bradford's knee injury last season. It was weeks of him being "day-to-day" until at some point late in the season they finally admitted he was done for the year. 

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1 hour ago, kingofplo said:

Whose firing up Murray? Must play RB1?

 

Why aren't you asking this question in the Murray thread.  Does not compute.

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1 hour ago, kingofplo said:

Whose firing up Murray? Must play RB1?

 

3 minutes ago, TTo34 said:

 

Why aren't you asking this question in the Murray thread.  Does not compute.

 

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