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Khrush is khrushing. Two more bombs tonight and on pace to set career highs in HR and RBI. 

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47 minutes ago, Flyman75 said:

Khrush is khrushing. Two more bombs tonight and on pace to set career highs in HR and RBI. 

0/11 between the last time he hit 2 bombs. Not that I'm complaining, but the hit/miss can be frustrating for daily bench/start.

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4 minutes ago, pbjfb said:

0/11 between the last time he hit 2 bombs. Not that I'm complaining, but the hit/miss can be frustrating for daily bench/start.

 

Nah. I have him in a daily league, and he's a set-and-forget for me. There's no deciding if I bench him or start him. I know he's going to hit in the .240s, but I also know he's going to hit 40 HRs and drive in 100 runs. In roto, I'll take that to the bank. 

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4 hours ago, Flyman75 said:

 

Nah. I have him in a daily league, and he's a set-and-forget for me. There's no deciding if I bench him or start him. I know he's going to hit in the .240s, but I also know he's going to hit 40 HRs and drive in 100 runs. In roto, I'll take that to the bank. 

 

Actually in daily leagues he's not a set a and forget, it's a pretty easy decision based on his splits to sit him vs. the majority of LHP.  

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7 hours ago, El_Chingon said:

 

Actually in daily leagues he's not a set a and forget, it's a pretty easy decision based on his splits to sit him vs. the majority of LHP.  

Are you benching vs Verlander?

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Don’t be cute and bench him vs anyone.  Conventional playing matchups wisdom would of said coming off 0/11 going up against Cole would be a bench.  But they got down big and then he crushed one off Cole and then another off a grocery bagger.  Starting pitching only makes up a certain % of at bats during a game usually.  Davis is most consistent power source in baseball, take the good with bad and leave him in daily.  

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2 hours ago, Cmilne23 said:

Don’t be cute and bench him vs anyone.  Conventional playing matchups wisdom would of said coming off 0/11 going up against Cole would be a bench.  But they got down big and then he crushed one off Cole and then another off a grocery bagger.  Starting pitching only makes up a certain % of at bats during a game usually.  Davis is most consistent power source in baseball, take the good with bad and leave him in daily.  

preach he's set and forget.  he can hit HR off anyone at anytime.

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4 hours ago, Cmilne23 said:

Don’t be cute and bench him vs anyone.  Conventional playing matchups wisdom would of said coming off 0/11 going up against Cole would be a bench.  But they got down big and then he crushed one off Cole and then another off a grocery bagger.  Starting pitching only makes up a certain % of at bats during a game usually.  Davis is most consistent power source in baseball, take the good with bad and leave him in daily.  

 

Cole and Verlander are righties, I said he should be benched vs. majority of LHP not RHP. 

 

Splits from last season vs. RHP:  .257/.336/.550 with 36 HR

Splits from last season vs. LHP:  .213/.336/.451 with 4 HR

 

You are doing a lot of damage to your batting average for only 4 HR when starting him vs. LHP

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5 minutes ago, El_Chingon said:

 

Cole and Verlander are righties, I said he should be benched vs. majority of LHP not RHP. 

 

Splits from last season vs. RHP:  .257/.336/.550 with 36 HR

Splits from last season vs. LHP:  .213/.336/.451 with 4 HR

 

You are doing a lot of damage to your batting average for only 4 HR when starting him vs. LHP

 

but again, how long will that (LHP) starter be in the game until a RHP reliever comes in?

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23 minutes ago, Members_Only_76 said:

 

but again, how long will that (LHP) starter be in the game until a RHP reliever comes in?

 

You don't think they would play a lefty specialist against him?

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12 hours ago, El_Chingon said:

 

Actually in daily leagues he's not a set a and forget, it's a pretty easy decision based on his splits to sit him vs. the majority of LHP.  

 

Actually, no. Sorry, I'm not benching a guy who will hit 40+ HR and drive in 100+ RBI. I know full well it comes with a .240s avg, so I plan for that as I put together my roster. Therefore, he is without doubt a set-and-forget. 

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43 minutes ago, El_Chingon said:

 

Cole and Verlander are righties, I said he should be benched vs. majority of LHP not RHP. 

 

Splits from last season vs. RHP:  .257/.336/.550 with 36 HR

Splits from last season vs. LHP:  .213/.336/.451 with 4 HR

 

You are doing a lot of damage to your batting average for only 4 HR when starting him vs. LHP

That's kinda interesting considering Davis is a righty, good to know

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2 minutes ago, Flyman75 said:

 

Actually, no. Sorry, I'm not benching a guy who will hit 40+ HR and drive in 100+ RBI. I know full well it comes with a .240s avg, so I plan for that as I put together my roster. Therefore, he is without doubt a set-and-forget. 

 

He hit 4 HR vs. LHP,  not 40 :rolleyes:

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Davis actually had 7 HR vs LHP last year in 149 PA, which is still about a 30 HR pace over a full season. He has 4 this year in 68 PA which is an even better pace. A .787 OPS vs L last year, .806 this year... that’s not bad.

 

I like to platoon hitters, but I do it with cheaper guys who don’t cost much and have more drastic splits to exploit. Sitting a guy as good as Davis is overthinking things a bit IMO.

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A real shame the Brewers gave him away for nothing. He could be hitting 50 homers a year in that ball park.

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43 minutes ago, SpartyOn4 said:

Davis actually had 7 HR vs LHP last year in 149 PA, which is still about a 30 HR pace over a full season. He has 4 this year in 68 PA which is an even better pace. A .787 OPS vs L last year, .806 this year... that’s not bad.

 

I like to platoon hitters, but I do it with cheaper guys who don’t cost much and have more drastic splits to exploit. Sitting a guy as good as Davis is overthinking things a bit IMO.

 

7 HR vs. LHP last season, you are correct

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50 minutes ago, Evincar said:

A real shame the Brewers gave him away for nothing. He could be hitting 50 homers a year in that ball park.

 

I agree but you never know. The way he's playing right now I can't imagine him being much better. Going to OAK may have been a blessing for some reason. 

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2 hours ago, El_Chingon said:

 

He hit 4 HR vs. LHP,  not 40 :rolleyes:

 

Did I say he hit 40 HR vs LHP :rolleyes:? I frankly don't care what his splits are. I planned for a consistent bat in my lineup...one that would hit .240ish, 40 HR, and 100 RBI. Because that is what I planned for, that is what I'm expecting. I don't care what parts of those stats come from LHP or RHP...I just plan for .240-40-100. And I build that into my overall plan for my lineup, making sure that I have guys who complement Khris' statistics to bring balance to my roster. 

 

If you want to keep arguing in circles, then by all means, be my guest. But when you plan for a guy with Davis' consistency to hit .240-40-100 and he's on track to do that, then yes, he's set-and-forget. And frankly, it's working pretty darn well for me. 

 

All that said, I'm out on this part of the Khris Davis discussion. If you want to continue the discussion, feel free to PM me so everyone else doesn't have to read it. 

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1 hour ago, SpartyOn4 said:

Davis actually had 7 HR vs LHP last year in 149 PA, which is still about a 30 HR pace over a full season. He has 4 this year in 68 PA which is an even better pace. A .787 OPS vs L last year, .806 this year... that’s not bad.

 

I like to platoon hitters, but I do it with cheaper guys who don’t cost much and have more drastic splits to exploit. Sitting a guy as good as Davis is overthinking things a bit IMO.

 

And his BA vs LHP this year is .224 vs .250 vs RHP...not an unreasonable disparity. The difference was more drastic last year (-.044 vs LHP), but in 2016, he hit .026 higher vs LHP than RHP. So yeah, set and forget. 

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25 minutes ago, Flyman75 said:

 

Did I say he hit 40 HR vs LHP :rolleyes:? I frankly don't care what his splits are. I planned for a consistent bat in my lineup...one that would hit .240ish, 40 HR, and 100 RBI. Because that is what I planned for, that is what I'm expecting. I don't care what parts of those stats come from LHP or RHP...I just plan for .240-40-100. And I build that into my overall plan for my lineup, making sure that I have guys who complement Khris' statistics to bring balance to my roster. 

 

If you want to keep arguing in circles, then by all means, be my guest. But when you plan for a guy with Davis' consistency to hit .240-40-100 and he's on track to do that, then yes, he's set-and-forget. And frankly, it's working pretty darn well for me. 

 

All that said, I'm out on this part of the Khris Davis discussion. If you want to continue the discussion, feel free to PM me so everyone else doesn't have to read it. 

Why are you mad?  People can disagree amicably and learn from other points of view.  I disagree with a "set and forget" mindset because i view nuances in daily matchups....you see it differently.  Cool.  I still learned some things reading your posts.

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Last night went 0-4 vs LHP Skaggs and accrued these stats on my bench.  Will gladly continue benching vs tough LHP like Skaggs...

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3 minutes ago, El_Chingon said:

Last night went 0-4 vs LHP Skaggs and accrued these stats on my bench.  Will gladly continue benching vs tough LHP like Skaggs...

Then you’ll continue to miss stats.  .787 ops isn’t even close to deeming someone platoon worthy.  He’s not even in the discussion.  You’re on your own with this one.  

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Just now, Cmilne23 said:

Then you’ll continue to miss stats.  .787 ops isn’t even close to seeming someone platoon worthy.  He’s not even in the discussion.  You’re on your own with this one.  

Touche.  I will gladly continue to miss stats if you mean continued 0-4 lines vs tough lefties.

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