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Ronald Acuna 2018 Outlook

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I have to wonder about some of these guys and their conditioning, stretching, hydration etc.  or lackthereof. 

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Man, this thread is a lot of doom and gloom for a guy who has missed 30 days in his months-long MLB career.

 

Both of his injuries came when he was trying to hustle out an infield single.  His knee injury in May looked WAY worse than last night, and he ended up missing a month, with reports saying he was good to go earlier but obviously Atlanta is going to play it safe with their #1 prospect.

 

I don't know anything about his conditioning, but unfortunately one of the risks of a high speed, impact player like Acuna are potential injuries due to zipping down the baseline to try to leg out grounders as opposed to putting your head down and jogging for the guaranteed out, potential collisions/awkward slides when stealing, and flying around the outfield running into walls (Although this part of his game hasn't developed as much yet).

 

We could get a report today that he is out for the season - I'd be shocked, but anything is possible.  I don't think there's any reason, however, to label this guy injury prone or to get overly worried about the injury we saw last night.

 

 

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A guy should be able to run without getting hurt. 

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19 minutes ago, Members_Only_76 said:

A guy should be able to run without getting hurt. 

yea especially with all the top tier trainers/training 

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Probably bc of the hype of being the #1 prospect on a lot of preseason lists but this thread has really jumped the shark and been probably the goofiest I’ve seen on here. 

Dude is day to day with a minor injury and people are acting like it’s his fault and he is made of glass. For many players the original injury probably would’ve torn several knee ligaments but instead he came back after only a month. And he reportedly wanted to play the next day after the injury.  

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32 minutes ago, Members_Only_76 said:

A guy should be able to run without getting hurt. 

What injuries are acceptable to you then?

 

Only collisions at the plate?  What about when Giancarlo took a FB to the face?  If a pitcher isn't throwing violently across the body or with the dreaded inverted W, yet still goes down for TJS, whose fault is it?  If they aren't on the Mets, surely they have good conditioning/training programs.

 

Injuries happen, and they are going to happen with greater frequency if you are a rough and tumble speedster, as opposed to say David Ortiz.

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45 minutes ago, Members_Only_76 said:

A guy should be able to run without getting hurt. 

 

Most injuries happen from running, lol. Sports are filled with hammy, groin, calf, knee, and quad injuries. Acuna has no injury history prior to this year so calm down.

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14 minutes ago, HesSoTaguchi said:

What injuries are acceptable to you then?

 

Only collisions at the plate?  What about when Giancarlo took a FB to the face?  If a pitcher isn't throwing violently across the body or with the dreaded inverted W, yet still goes down for TJS, whose fault is it?  If they aren't on the Mets, surely they have good conditioning/training programs.

 

Injuries happen, and they are going to happen with greater frequency if you are a rough and tumble speedster, as opposed to say David Ortiz.

 

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Was he making a juke at the goaline against a DB and LB?

 

I guess we should see track sprinters falling down constantly with injured hamstrings and groins all the time. Oh wait. Nope sure don’t. 

 

I’m talking about running. Just running and basic game play. I played sports for 15 years including college. Never missed a football game. Played 5 sports a year btw. But yeah these MLB players, not just Acuna, are not properly training (hydrating, stretching, conditioning, etc.) IMHO. Too many injuries from basic activity on the field. 

 

Trainers etc. can only do so much. It’s not like a high school team, these are professionals getting paid a lot and are responsible for a lot of there own training. 

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12 minutes ago, JDL88 said:

 

Most injuries happen from running, lol. Sports are filled with hammy, groin, calf, knee, and quad injuries. Acuna has no injury history prior to this year so calm down.

 

I hope it’s minor and he’s back in a couple days. But see Cain. Still out two weeks later. I like Acuna a lot as s player and rooting for him. 

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2 minutes ago, Members_Only_76 said:

Was he making a juke at the goaline against a DB and LB?

 

I guess we should see track sprinters falling down constantly with injured hamstrings and groins all the time. Oh wait. Nope sure don’t. 

 

I’m talking about running. Just running and basic game play. I played sports for 15 years including college. Never missed a football game. Played 5 sports a year btw. But yeah these MLB players, not just Acuna, are not properly training (hydrating, stretching, conditioning, etc.) IMHO. Too many injuries from basic activity on the field. 

 

Trainers etc. can only do so much. It’s not like a high school team, these are professionals getting paid a lot and are responsible for a lot of there own training. 

 

1.  Track sprinters are in their own lane.  They do not have to worry about stepping on a base (or potential obstruction from 1B legs being in the way), nor do they have to slow down soon after passing the base in case there is an opportunity to advance to 2nd.  And yes - track stars get hurt all the time.  

 

2.  I'm not trying to be a dick, but you comparing your experience to one of the top prospects in MLB is ridiculous and smacks of /r/Iamverybadass . Do you really think that players who are making/stand to make hundreds of millions of dollars have access to worse trainers than you did at a high school/college level?  Or are you just that much tougher (I'll also assume you played 162 games a season)?

 

 

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22 minutes ago, HesSoTaguchi said:

What injuries are acceptable to you then?

 

Only collisions at the plate?  What about when Giancarlo took a FB to the face?  If a pitcher isn't throwing violently across the body or with the dreaded inverted W, yet still goes down for TJS, whose fault is it?  If they aren't on the Mets, surely they have good conditioning/training programs.

 

Injuries happen, and they are going to happen with greater frequency if you are a rough and tumble speedster, as opposed to say David Ortiz.

 

Hustling for a diving catch and run into the wall  A collision at first base and twist an ankle. Hbp. Can’t name every scenario. But basic running and game play isn’t one of them. He’s not a 40 year old Beltre, he’s 20. 

 

I’m not saying he’s done for the season or some injury prone jag (Dahl lol). I’m saying I believe some players aren’t conditioning properly.

 

I studied health and fitness a lot. Was an athlete, personal trainer and bodybuilder for years. I’m a business exec now and totally out of shape lol. But I’m not just talking without experience. 

 

Carry on. And please be ok Ronnie. 

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Just now, HesSoTaguchi said:

 

1.  Track sprinters are in their own lane.  They do not have to worry about stepping on a base (or potential obstruction from 1B legs being in the way), nor do they have to slow down soon after passing the base in case there is an opportunity to advance to 2nd.  And yes - track stars get hurt all the time.  

 

2.  I'm not trying to be a dick, but you comparing your experience to one of the top prospects in MLB is ridiculous and smacks of /r/Iamverybadass . Do you really think that players who are making/stand to make hundreds of millions of dollars have access to worse trainers than you did at a high school/college level?  Or are you just that much tougher (I'll also assume you played 162 games a season)?

 

 

 

You're not hearing the point, no worries and no hard feelings. 

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4 minutes ago, Members_Only_76 said:

 

You're not hearing the point, no worries and no hard feelings. 

 

Your point seems to be that getting injured while running is not a legitimate injury, and is due to MLB players not undergoing proper conditioning and training (Provide zero evidence to back this up).  You bolstered this 'point' by telling us that you were a 5 sport player into college, and never had injury problems (Irrelevant).  Then you bring track players into this, and I link an article where literally the best track runner of all time was dealing with a hamstring injury.

 

But sure - we can agree to disagree.

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1 minute ago, HesSoTaguchi said:

 

Your point seems to be that getting injured while running is not a legitimate injury, and is due to MLB players not undergoing proper conditioning and training (Provide zero evidence to back this up).  You bolstered this 'point' by telling us that you were a 5 sport player into college, and never had injury problems (Irrelevant).  Then you bring track players into this, and I link an article where literally the best track runner of all time was dealing with a hamstring injury.

 

But sure - we can agree to disagree.

 

Maybe I'm the only one who doesn’t understand the amount of soft tissue injuries in mlb.

 

Maybe guys just need rest and lean on the 10 day DL to get through the grueling (very long) season.

 

Whatever it is it just seems excessive. Sharing some of my own experiences with fellow roto members is frowned upon I guess. I’m not an ego guy, was just elaborating on why I don’t understand a lot of the injuries these days. Maybe it’s always been that way and I just follow more closely these days. 

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3 minutes ago, Members_Only_76 said:

 

Maybe I'm the only one who doesn’t understand the amount of soft tissue injuries in mlb.

 

Maybe guys just need rest and lean on the 10 day DL to get through the grueling (very long) season.

 

Whatever it is it just seems excessive. Sharing some of my own experiences with fellow roto members is frowned upon I guess. I’m not an ego guy, was just elaborating on why I don’t understand a lot of the injuries these days. Maybe it’s always been that way and I just follow more closely these days. 

 

Is this the internet?!

 

Thanks for the even-keeled response - we could use more of that.  And again, I'm not trying to attack you, I just don't think it's very reasonable for any of us (Unless we have some closet MLBers on the forums) to extrapolate our personal experiences to these guys, especially a talent at the level of Acuna.

 

I'd also hate for a newer fantasy player to come into this thread and think that Acuna has one foot in the grave.  I was watching the game live last night, and obviously the first word that came out of my mouth when I saw the play rhymed with duck, but hopefully we dodged a bullet and this guy will drink some more Gatorade and get back out there soon!

 

Cheers!

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2 minutes ago, HesSoTaguchi said:

 

Is this the internet?!

 

Thanks for the even-keeled response - we could use more of that.  And again, I'm not trying to attack you, I just don't think it's very reasonable for any of us (Unless we have some closet MLBers on the forums) to extrapolate our personal experiences to these guys, especially a talent at the level of Acuna.

 

I'd also hate for a newer fantasy player to come into this thread and think that Acuna has one foot in the grave.  I was watching the game live last night, and obviously the first word that came out of my mouth when I saw the play rhymed with duck, but hopefully we dodged a bullet and this guy will drink some more Gatorade and get back out there soon!

 

Cheers!

 

Cheers ? 

 

the other factor I think about is just the nature of baseball. Some guys depending on game flow barely run (especially at full exertion) or not often enough to keep the muscles warm and prepared for a full on sprint. I think they should ride bikes or something between innings or find ways to stay warm. IDK. ??‍♂️

 

Be well Acuna. He’s sitting out today as expected. 

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