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9 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said:

I think the Chiefs then Ravens both concluded that he has nothing left.  And those are two of the worst receiver groups in the league, with or without Maclin.  But that leads you to conclude he will sign with the Giants and thrive?  Interesting.

Hence, bold prediction. I will guarantee that Maclin will be on a roster week 1 though.  

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6 minutes ago, ajs723 said:

Hence bold prediction. I will guarantee that Maclin will be on a roster week 1 though.  

That, alone, is bold imo.  I remember arguing about Vincent Jackson being toast about four years ago.  When it's over, it's over.

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On 5/14/2018 at 4:52 PM, SharkSwimmer said:

Jordy Nelson does not finish amongst the top 32 WRs in ppr scoring.

 

On 5/14/2018 at 4:54 PM, South Carolina said:

That's a good one to. I don't think there's a chance he's top 32. 

 

Not going to argue for or against, but just throw out a suggestion. Is it possible Jordy's lack of success last year has more to do with poor QB play, a QB honing on one target and tossing to Jordy only 88 times, his fewest in the past four years, and less to do with his ability to separate under coverage? Wasn't it just two years ago that Jordy beat out Antonio Brown, OBJ, and Julio Jones, and Nuk, and Micheal Thomas, Mike Evans, and everyone, to land his season point total at #1?

 

Jordy's success or lack of it might have more to do with Carr leveling-up, and/or Cooper or Bryant making a difference, less to do with his own skills.

 

This is the bold predictions thread, so I suggest Jordy lands in the top 12 of WRs blowing his ADP out of the water.

 

Even if (if) his feet fail him, the man still has his hands.

 

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7 minutes ago, cohenstantinople said:

 

 

Not going to argue for or against, but just throw out a suggestion. Is it possible Jordy's lack of success last year has more to do with poor QB play, a QB honing on one target and tossing to Jordy only 88 times, his fewest in the past four years, and less to do with his ability to separate under coverage? Wasn't it just two years ago that Jordy beat out Antonio Brown, OBJ, and Julio Jones, and Nuk, and Micheal Thomas, Mike Evans, and everyone, to land his season point total at #1?

 

Jordy's success or lack of it might have more to do with Carr leveling-up, and/or Cooper or Bryant making a difference, less to do with his own skills.

 

This is the bold predictions thread, so I suggest Jordy lands in the top 12 of WRs blowing his ADP out of the water.

 

Even if (if) his feet fail him, the man still has his hands.

 

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 I doubt he finishes top 12 or outside of the top 32. I'll say Jordy finishes between WR 20-30. 

 

He has the skills to transition smoothly into old-man game. 

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Bold predictions are great.  Nonsense predictions will be called out.  

 

Jordy will be top 12.

 

Christine Michael will be top 10.

 

Maclin will be the 2nd leading receiver on the NYG.  Come on people.

 

Might as well say that Emmitt Smith will come out of retirement to lead the NFL in rushing.

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48 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said:

Bold predictions are great.  Nonsense predictions will be called out.  

 

Jordy will be top 12.

 

Christine Michael will be top 10.

 

Maclin will be the 2nd leading receiver on the NYG.  Come on people.

 

Might as well say that Emmitt Smith will come out of retirement to lead the NFL in rushing.

 

Stop with the shaming already. Bold is bold for a reason. If you disagree, simply state that and move one...no need to be a drama queen about it.

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53 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said:

Bold predictions are great.  Nonsense predictions will be called out.  

 

Jordy will be top 12.

 

Christine Michael will be top 10.

 

Maclin will be the 2nd leading receiver on the NYG.  Come on people.

 

Might as well say that Emmitt Smith will come out of retirement to lead the NFL in rushing.

Nonsense predictions heading into last season:

 

Jermaine Kearse will score more fantasy points than a healthy TY Hilton.

 

Adam Thielen is a top ten WR.

 

Alex Smith will be a top 10 fantasy player.

 

Alvin Kamara will be the number 3 overall fantasy RB. 

 

Dion Lewis and Duke Johnson are both RB1s in PPR. 

 

Todd Gurley will lead all players in fantasy points.  

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6 minutes ago, ajs723 said:

Nonsense predictions heading into last season:

 

Jermaine Kearse will score more fantasy points than a healthy TY Hilton.

 

Adam Thielen is a top ten WR.

 

Alex Smith will be a top 10 fantasy player.

 

Alvin Kamara will be the number 3 overall fantasy RB. 

 

Dion Lewis and Duke Johnson are both RB1s in PPR. 

 

Todd Gurley will lead all players in fantasy points.  

 

Dont forget:

 

Case Keenum is a top-15 QB

 

Alvin Kamara outscores Ajayi and Mixon combined

 

Cooper Kupp outscores Corey Davis

 

Agholor is a top-20 WR

 

Funchess is a top-20 WR

 

Blake Bortles outscores Winston and Mariota

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9 minutes ago, joshua18 said:

 

Dont forget:

 

Case Keenum is a top-15 QB

 

Alvin Kamara outscores Ajayi and Mixon combined

 

Cooper Kupp outscores Corey Davis

 

Agholor is a top-20 WR

 

Funchess is a top-20 WR

 

Blake Bortles outscores Winston and Mariota

 

Those are all really good.

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But notice none of those involve players who will not even be on an NFL roster.

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22 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said:

But notice none of those involve players who will not even be on an NFL roster.

If Jeremy Maclin walks away, then he will be the youngest receiver to ever retire with multiple 1000 yard receiving seasons (yes, younger than Calvin). 

 

You want a bold prediction, that's a BOLD prediction. Maclin will be on a team this season.

 

Anyway...... 

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1 hour ago, ajs723 said:

If Jeremy Maclin walks away, then he will be the youngest receiver to ever retire with multiple 1000 yard receiving seasons (yes, younger than Calvin). 

 

You want a bold prediction, that's a BOLD prediction. Maclin will be on a team this season.

 

Anyway...... 

Sometimes a player does not decide to retire.  Sometimes the NFL retires them against their will.

 

Also, please do not mention Calvin Johnson and Jeremy Maclin in the same sentence.  Maclin was a decent receiver who had a couple of pretty good seasons when he wasn't injured.  Calvin Johnson is going to be a Hall of Famer.

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33 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said:

Also, please do not mention Calvin Johnson and Jeremy Maclin in the same sentence.

 

Umm... you did 

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1 hour ago, SharkSwimmer said:

Sometimes a player does not decide to retire.  Sometimes the NFL retires them against their will.

 

Also, please do not mention Calvin Johnson and Jeremy Maclin in the same sentence.  Maclin was a decent receiver who had a couple of pretty good seasons when he wasn't injured.  Calvin Johnson is going to be a Hall of Famer.

I obviously wasn't comparing the two. Just pointing it out as a preemptive strike against the inevitable reference to him walking away early. 

 

We're sidetracked, but whatever, it's May. Can you name one other notable WR who has ever been retired by the NFL at this age? Not including gruesome injuries (Johnny Knox) or serious chronic conditions (Percy Harvin). 

 

While Maclin has been banged up a lot, he isn't coming off a severe injury, by any stretch. He mostly played through a shoulder injury earlier in the year, and then missed the last 2 weeks of last season with a grade 1 knee sprain.

 

In the 11 games he wasn't injured, he had 7 games of at least 4 receptions or 50 yards. I can't understand the conclusion that his career must be over. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, ajs723 said:

If Jeremy Maclin walks away, then he will be the youngest receiver to ever retire with multiple 1000 yard receiving seasons (yes, younger than Calvin). 

 

You want a bold prediction, that's a BOLD prediction. Maclin will be on a team this season.

 

Anyway...... 

Bold Predictions:

Maclin isn’t drafted in 95%+ of leagues.

The Chargers win a playoff game.

Barkley rushes for less than 900 yards.

Eli Manning averages an interception a game.

Engram drops 10+ balls.

Chargers D has more fantasy points than the Rams D

None of the rookie WR’s exceed 700 yards

6+ rookie RBs exceed 700 yards

Mike Gesicki (TE) scores more TDs than any rookie WR.

 

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1 hour ago, seanismorris said:

Bold Predictions:

Maclin isn’t drafted in 95%+ of leagues.

The Chargers win a playoff game.

Barkley rushes for less than 900 yards.

Eli Manning averages an interception a game.

Engram drops 10+ balls.

Chargers D has more fantasy points than the Rams D

None of the rookie WR’s exceed 700 yards

6+ rookie RBs exceed 700 yards

Mike Gesicki (TE) scores more TDs than any rookie WR.

 

I like the bolded. 

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2 hours ago, seanismorris said:

Bold Predictions:

Maclin isn’t drafted in 95%+ of leagues.

The Chargers win a playoff game.

Barkley rushes for less than 900 yards.

Eli Manning averages an interception a game.

Engram drops 10+ balls.

Chargers D has more fantasy points than the Rams D

None of the rookie WR’s exceed 700 yards

6+ rookie RBs exceed 700 yards

Mike Gesicki (TE) scores more TDs than any rookie WR.

 

 

By far the boldest claim in this thread.

 

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2 hours ago, seanismorris said:

Bold Predictions:

 

Eli Manning averages an interception a game.

 

So basically what he's done his whole career?

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16 minutes ago, Evincar said:

 

So basically what he's done his whole career?

Maybe the bold part is that he ONLY throws one pick per game. 

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1 hour ago, ajs723 said:

Maybe the bold part is that he ONLY throws one pick per game. 

 

It’s not quite that bad, but I agree his interceptions are excessive.  

 

Eli’s about 1.5 TDs/INT.  I consider 2 pretty good.  Brady for comparison is 3 (2x better than Eli). Rodgers = 4

 

For Eli to have a good year he needs to score at least 32TDs (assuming 16 INT).  His stats say that’s going to be a struggle.

 

ELI MANNING STATS
 
Year
Team
CMP%
YDS
TD
INT
Rating
 
2017
61.6
3,468
19
13
80.4
 
2016
63.0
4,027
26
16
86.0
 
2015
62.6
4,432
35
14
93.6
 
2014
63.1
4,410
30
14
92.1
 
2013
57.5
3,818
18
27
69.4
 
2012
59.9
3,948
26
15
87.2
 
2011
61.0
4,933
29
16
92.9
 
2010
62.9
4,002
31
25
85.3
 
2009
62.3
4,021
27
14
93.1
 
2008
60.3
3,238
21
10
86.4
 
2007
56.1
3,336
23
20
73.9
 
2006
57.7
3,244
24
18
77.0
 
2005
52.8
3,762
24
17
75.9
 
2004
48.2
1,043
6
9
55.4
 
Career
 
59.8
51,682
339
228
83.5
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11 minutes ago, seanismorris said:

 

It’s not quite that bad, but I agree his interceptions are excessive.  

 

Eli’s about 1.5 TDs/INT.  I consider 2 pretty good.  Brady for comparison is 3 (2x better than Eli). Rodgers = 4

 

For Eli to have a good year he needs to score at least 32TDs (assuming 16 INT).  His stats say that’s going to be a struggle.

 

ELI MANNING STATS
 
Year
Team
CMP%
YDS
TD
INT
Rating
 
2017
61.6
3,468
19
13
80.4
 
2016
63.0
4,027
26
16
86.0
 
2015
62.6
4,432
35
14
93.6
 
2014
63.1
4,410
30
14
92.1
 
2013
57.5
3,818
18
27
69.4
 
2012
59.9
3,948
26
15
87.2
 
2011
61.0
4,933
29
16
92.9
 
2010
62.9
4,002
31
25
85.3
 
2009
62.3
4,021
27
14
93.1
 
2008
60.3
3,238
21
10
86.4
 
2007
56.1
3,336
23
20
73.9
 
2006
57.7
3,244
24
18
77.0
 
2005
52.8
3,762
24
17
75.9
 
2004
48.2
1,043
6
9
55.4
 
Career
 
59.8
51,682
339
228
83.5

216 games, 228 picks.... It kinda is that bad. That's more than 1 per. If he plays 16 games and throws 16 picks, it would be an improvement over his career average. 

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11 hours ago, ajs723 said:

I obviously wasn't comparing the two. Just pointing it out as a preemptive strike against the inevitable reference to him walking away early. 

 

We're sidetracked, but whatever, it's May. Can you name one other notable WR who has ever been retired by the NFL at this age? Not including gruesome injuries (Johnny Knox) or serious chronic conditions (Percy Harvin). 

 

While Maclin has been banged up a lot, he isn't coming off a severe injury, by any stretch. He mostly played through a shoulder injury earlier in the year, and then missed the last 2 weeks of last season with a grade 1 knee sprain.

 

In the 11 games he wasn't injured, he had 7 games of at least 4 receptions or 50 yards. I can't understand the conclusion that his career must be over. 

 

 

I am right on track.  Maclin's toast as evidenced by his poor play the last two years for teams desperate for a playmaker in the passing game.  Dez can't find a job right now, and Dez has far more juice left than Maclin.

 

As for a "notable" receiver "deciding" to walk away at such a young age, we will have to define our terms.  If "notable" means all WRs as good or better than Jeremy Maclin, it is quite a huge list.  

 

Also, a WR can decide to keep playing all he wants, but if no team signs him, he is still out of the league.

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Bold Prediction. All of the following running backs will be underdrafted in PPR. 

 

Chris Thompson

Tarik Cohen

Duke Johnson

Theo Riddick

Gio Bernard

Corey Clement

Austin Ekeler

John Kelly

Bilal Powell (if he isn't cut) 

 

As popular as PPR has gotten, people never seem to learn the value of these useful 3rd down backs. 

 

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Jerick McKinnon scores more fantasy points than Todd Gurley.

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