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24 minutes ago, Auction>Snake said:

Sigh.... OKC had the Warriors down 3-1 & KD choked, he joined a 73-9 win team he almost beat it's not even remotely similar. That's taking the easiest path in NBA history and he'll forever be known as the weakest most spineless player to ever play the game. LeBron took the best path yes, who wouldn't being on that abysmal Cavs squad in 2010. Also the NBA actually made this possible when they increased the salary cap last CBA and created a threshold that bad teams had to pass which made teams spend big money on role players. Parity is gone and superstar teams have been made possible. 

Who would want to play for the Cavs team? Just like who would want to play with Westbrook...

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54 minutes ago, Auction>Snake said:

And Jordan lost 7 eastern conference championships, sometimes didn't even make it. Rings are a team achievement, LeBron GOAT bigger, stronger, faster than MJ & his career is far from over. 

 

 

That's because the East wasn't littered with trash teams back then lol. 

 

This was taken 2 or 3 years ago but you get the idea (I think LeBron is at 14 or 15 50 win teams eliminated despite playing more seasons). It gives you a taste of some of the teams Jordan had to get through just to make it to the finals. If LeBron was in the West he'd keep losing before he ever hit the finals like Jordan did before Pippen.

 

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Also, for anybody that thinks Jordan couldn't be a playmaker like LeBron, you're wrong. He wasn't ASKED to be a PG like LeBron is. But when he was ASKED to, he not only did it just as well as LeBron, but even better. He also had a span at PG where he dropped 10 triple doubles in an 11 game span. Even Russell Westbrook would blush at that.

 

"Jordan continued to play at the PG spot until the end of the season. In these 24 games he averaged 30.4 pts, 9.2 reb, 10.7 asts & 2.4 stls."

 

http://ballislife.com/michael-jordan-could-of-been-the-best-point-guard-ever-want-proof/

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Carlos Correa said:

Also, for anybody that thinks Jordan couldn't be a playmaker like LeBron, you're wrong. He wasn't ASKED to be a PG like LeBron is. But when he was ASKED to, he not only did it just as well as LeBron, but even better. He also had a span at PG where he dropped 10 triple doubles in an 11 game span. Even Russell Westbrook would blush at that.

 

"Jordan continued to play at the PG spot until the end of the season. In these 24 games he averaged 30.4 pts, 9.2 reb, 10.7 asts & 2.4 stls."

 

http://ballislife.com/michael-jordan-could-of-been-the-best-point-guard-ever-want-proof/

 

 

Strange that he lost to Shaq and Penny in the 1995 conference finals. "Jordan was rusty" doesn't fly when he goes 32/7/5 on 48% shooting. His performance in 1995 compares favorably to ANY of his postseason performances. The Bulls couldn't beat a team with a dominant center. Even if they had got through to the finals, Hakeem would have eaten them alive. He wasn't rusty at all, he dropped 55 points against the knicks a month prior, not only did he lose against Shaq & Penny in 1995 he choked twice with a turn-over and an air-ball during vital stages of winnable games, the entire 1995 series in full is on Youtube.

 

Rodman's offensive rebounding won the following 1996 series, most long time Bulls fans agree. 

 

Jordan not only shot terribly from the field, he was absolute s--- in the fourth quarters too (shot 33.3% in them, and only 15.4% in the fourth quarters of the three close games). In the two close wins of the series, Rodman averaged 11 offensive rebounds/game. He was setting records, and when MJ was shooting the team out of the game with bricks (rest of the team struggled shooting wise too), it was Rodman getting all those rebounds to give Bulls the extra possessions. Bulls as a team shot much lower than Sonics in that series...why do you think they still won? They got 34 more possessions from offensive rebounds (Rodman alone had 41!) MJ's scoring could have been replaced in that series, but Rodman's historic offensive rebounding? Not so much.

 

Rodman should have been the MVP of that Finals. The Bulls shot much worse from the field than the Sonics in the Finals but still won. How did that happen? Simple. The Bulls got more shot opportunities from offensive rebounds basically negating many of their misses. Rodman, by himself, secured and additional 41 possessions for the Bulls with his offensive rebounding including 2 games where he tied an NBA Finals record. That's like playing H-O-R-S-E and someone giving you multiple "do overs" after you've missed.

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13 minutes ago, Auction>Snake said:

Strange that he lost to Shaq and Penny in the 1995 conference finals. "Jordan was rusty" doesn't fly when he goes 32/7/5 on 48% shooting. His performance in 1995 compares favorably to ANY of his postseason performances. The Bulls couldn't beat a team with a dominant center. Even if they had got through to the finals, Hakeem would have eaten them alive. He wasn't rusty at all, he dropped 55 points against the knicks a month prior, not only did he lose against Shaq & Penny in 1995 he choked twice with a turn-over and an air-ball during vital stages of winnable games, the entire 1995 series in full is on Youtube.

 

He was rusty though since he just played 17 regular season games after 2 years off. You left out that In 1996 they swept that Magic team with Penny and Shaq in the Eastern Conference Finals. They also took out Patrick Ewing and his Knicks in 5 games and took out Alonzo Mourning and his Heat in a 3 game sweep. There's 3 HOF centers they beat in 1 single postseason  with an 11-2 record.

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5 minutes ago, Carlos Correa said:

 

He was rusty though since he just played 17 regular season games after 2 years off. You left out that In 1996 they swept that Magic team with Penny and Shaq in the Eastern Conference Finals. They also took out Patrick Ewing and his Knicks in 5 games and took out Alonzo Mourning and his Heat in a 3 game sweep. There's 3 HOF centers they beat in 1 single postseason  with an 11-2 record.

Hakeem & Shaq are on another level to Ewing & Mourning.  Dennis Rodman was desperately needed on that 1996 bulls squad. Jordan needed help.

 

His numbers were as good as always and better then in 96-98 31.5 ppg 484 FG% 6.5 rpg 4.1 Apg 2.3 Spg 1.4 Bpg


You realize he's messed up plenty of times when he was 100% too right? I bet if Pippen doesn't close out the Knicks series in '93, the only thing we hear about from that year is how bad MJ messed up. Well that or his fans playing it off like his wrist wasn't 100% (despite declaring right before the series that it was a non issue). 
Was he ''rusty'' when he scored 55 against the Knicks or 48 against the Hornets in the 1995 playoffs? MJ put up 31/6.5/4/2.5/2 on 48% in the 1995 Magic series, moved way better than he did in '96 and beyond FACTS. Even MJ has always needed one of the best (if not the best) cast in the league to win, and in '95 he didn't have it even though he had better playoff numbers in 95 than in ANY of his 2nd 3peat years. FACTS. The entire series is on youtube, watch and learn.


Jordan is supposed to be the undisputed greatest right? No excuses, him coming back should have made the Bulls an automatic lock to win the championship. (many people believed it would) His presences alone should have put them over the top that year. 


Let's not forget Jordan supposedly had a legendary ''will to win'' he always willed his team to victory no matter what, remember? He didn't though he came up short, choked in a crucial situation against Nick Anderson and cost his team the game and a chance at the title. 
Sorry but time off or ''rust'' is such a laughable excuse for a player like Jordan. I mean the guy is supposed to be by far and away the best ever and he couldn't win because of ''rust''?  Yeah okay.....


If Mike gets 95 disregarded there are a lot of people who should get some of the things used to hate on them taken back. Wilt, West, Magic, and Bird all had years or playoffs of being less than themselves due to things out of their control. The Lakers beat the Celtics in 85 with Larry having a cracked knuckle on his shooting hand. No one says a word about this.  It's a bit of a double standard. Mike is pretty much the only player who gets "Nah that doesnt count...." 


"Jordan not being Jordan" isn't the reason for the Bulls' loss that year. That would be interior defense (or lack thereof) and rebounding. Grant and O'Neal beasted on the Bulls frontcourt and that was the primary reason for the Magic winning. Again he desperately needed Rodman's help in 1996.

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So, we get it. Lebron is trash, Jordan is the GOAT. What’s the next dialogue? Is KD on his way to 5 rings like Kobe? 

 

Thats what we want to know. We don’t care about Jordan losing, at the end of the day he won 6 rings, and that’s the majority’s GOAT because he went 6-0 in the Finals. Next is Kobe, who won 5 rings and went, 5-2 in the Finals. So they the GOAT’s. Lebron is a scrub who picks players, and is 3-6 in the finals. We need new arguments. KD is 2-1, Curry is 3-1 and so is Klay. Are we going to talk

about Lonzo Ball potential? Westbrook is 0-1 a long with Harden. 

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5 minutes ago, RedDogNamedClippers said:

So, we get it. Lebron is trash, Jordan is the GOAT. What’s the next dialogue? Is KD on his way to 5 rings like Kobe? 

 

Thats what we want to know. We don’t care about Jordan losing, at the end of the day he won 6 rings, and that’s the majority’s GOAT because he went 6-0 in the Finals. Next is Kobe, who won 5 rings and went, 5-2 in the Finals. So they the GOAT’s. Lebron is a scrub who picks players, and is 3-6 in the finals. We need new arguments. KD is 2-1, Curry is 3-1 and so is Klay. Are we going to talk

about Lonzo Ball potential? Westbrook is 0-1 a long with Harden. 

KD trash in OKC, trash now. Swap KD onto that Cavs squad and they don't make playoffs. Rings are a team achievement. If you're starting a franchise, and you get to choose anyone from the entire history of the NBA. Unequivocally the only choices for your #1 pick are LeBron or Jordan. For me it's LeBron, bigger, faster, stronger. :)

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Wow what an idiot LeBron. Who punches a wall and injures himself after game 1? Took himself out of the series. Wasnt the same since. Some "leader" smdh 

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3 hours ago, Carlos Correa said:

Also, for anybody that thinks Jordan couldn't be a playmaker like LeBron, you're wrong. He wasn't ASKED to be a PG like LeBron is. But when he was ASKED to, he not only did it just as well as LeBron, but even better. He also had a span at PG where he dropped 10 triple doubles in an 11 game span. Even Russell Westbrook would blush at that.

 

"Jordan continued to play at the PG spot until the end of the season. In these 24 games he averaged 30.4 pts, 9.2 reb, 10.7 asts & 2.4 stls."

 

http://ballislife.com/michael-jordan-could-of-been-the-best-point-guard-ever-want-proof/

 

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1989-04-09/sports/8901190048_1_triple-double-new-statistic-box-score

 

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Statistics are just supposed to be there, to be appreciated after the fact. For all the scoreboards in NBA arenas, most players don`t learn about their numbers until they are handed a box score in the locker room. That often is when most interviews stop, and the studying begins. That`s fine. That`s the time. That`s the place. And that`s what makes this whole Michael Jordan triple-double thing silly. Simply, he is above it all, no matter what he thinks.

 

Since moving to point guard 16 games ago, Jordan has recorded eight triple-doubles, including a streak of seven in a row that was snapped Friday night against Detroit. He has 11 for the season. Since Jordan`s move from off-guard, the Bulls have gone 11-5. That, in itself, should be reward enough.

 

But even Jordan has been caught in triple-double-mania. During breaks in games, Jordan has been wandering over to the scorer`s table to get updates on how many rebounds, assists and points he needs to fill his three double-figure quotas. ``The guys at the scorer`s desk let me know what I need,`` he said. ``They tell me, `You need three assists; you need two rebounds.```

 

Jordan also has been double-checking the figures with Chicago assistants. ``They keep me in tune,`` he said. ``They keep reminding me when I come back to the huddle, how much I need.``

 

Last Sunday, at home against New Jersey, the 10th assist was Jordan`s final goal. ``I knew I had nine assists,`` he said, ``and I looked at (forward) Brad (Sellers), and said, `Brad, can I count on you for my 10th?` And he said, `yeah` and hit a jumper from the baseline.``

 

The push for the elusive triple-double is part of Jordan`s push for greater respect. ``If the way I`m playing now doesn`t convince them I`m a complete player,`` he said, ``then nothing will.``

 

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That, however, is just the point. It`s the grace and the ease by which the numbers come that do the convincing -- not the numbers themselves. Lesser players need to establish credibility through numbers. Great ones just let the numbers happen.

 

Even Jordan was caught up in stat-padding. The last sentence in general is on point. I remember watching a video analysis on Westbrook's game, arguing that some aspects of his stat-hunting truly are less optimal in terms of team play. I think one was e.g. leaving his man early in order to anticipate/be in position for rebounds. Adams would be there to pick up many rebounds. I don't think Westbrook catching them initiated the fastbreak significantly faster e.g.

 

edit. But yeah, still an indication of MJ's ability to create plays. But mere stats don't necessarily tell an exact picture. Even in the sense of you showing that had Bulls decided to keep MJ at the PG position, his AST would arguably be higher. Then again you might also have some stat padding. Need to look past mere stats to determine to whom does specific aspects of the game come more naturally compared with others.

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1 hour ago, jstep13 said:

Wow what an idiot LeBron. Who punches a wall and injures himself after game 1? Took himself out of the series. Wasnt the same since. Some "leader" smdh 

 

Damn brah did LeBron Delonte West you? So much hate for so much greatness.

 

Anyway, IMO LeBron vs MJ is really just opinion, too hard to split them - but they are clearly the two best of all time.

 

Unless KD leaves GSW and wins a ring somewhere else where he's the undisputed man of the team, he'll never be in the conversation for top 10 of all time - and Steph might not be now either.

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5 hours ago, Auction>Snake said:

And Jordan lost 7 eastern conference championships, sometimes didn't even make it. Rings are a team achievement, LeBron GOAT bigger, stronger, faster than MJ & his career is far from over

 

So are you saying lebron is more talented and have longer time to achieve more in NBA but still fail to surpass MJ who has a shorter NBA career?

 

lets see what teams MJ lost to in his career ( iirc ) 

 

84-85 - MJ rookie season, his bulls made playoff and lost first round to the 2nd seed bucks 

85-86 - Lost first round to the first seed Celtics who went on to win the chip this year ( celtics 67-15 this yr) 

86-87 - Lost first round to the first seed Celics who were the defending champs 

87-88 -  Lost to pistons who won the east this year and lost to lakers in a tough 7 games series in finals

88-89 - Lost to pistons but this series was the real finals(2-4) because Pistons sweep everyone else including finals in playoff this year.

89-90 - Lost to pistons but again this is the real nba finals(3-4) because pistons pretty much either sweep or only lost 1 game to any other team not bulls this playoff.

94-95- Lost to Magic with shaq and penny who won the east this year.

 

LeBron has never face any of those teams in the east as good as MJ had play against and since you like to talk about MJ's lost to 95 Magic this much that 95 Magic team is better than any of the teams lebron had face in his entire East conference career. OH since we are taking about MAGIC team, Lebron lost to Howard's Magic in 09 with homecourt ( 66 wins best record in NBA), Coach of the year mike brown( ?) and Magic didn't even have Nelson for this series due to injruried, what are the excuse for lebron this time? don't give me crap like his teams suck etc, if you do it just shows that lebron fail to win anything without 2 super stars by his side. 

 

LeBron is the best player of his generation there is no doubt about that but lebron fan boys need to face the reality that he is not the GOAT right now, most people have no problem place lebron as the 2nd tho some fans may argue KAJ is the 2nd or the goat which he made a much better case than Lebron now.

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The first couple paragraphs of the WSJ's article today about the Warriors says it all:

 

The Golden State Warriors had a very Golden State Warriors problem this season: They were too good.

 

Other teams would be delighted to have such issues. But the reigning NBA champions had so much talent and so little incentive for so much of the regular season that it became a chore for them to unleash the full powers of their superteam. They were the only team in the league that could afford to be bored. They knew they were good enough to get away with it.

 

They were right. The Warriors are now the back-to-back NBA champions after crushing LeBron James and the other Cleveland Cavaliers, 108-85, on Friday night to complete their anticlimactic Finals sweep of the greatest player of this basketball generation and establish themselves as the sport’s latest dynasty.

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48 minutes ago, ber said:

 

So are you saying lebron is more talented and have longer time to achieve more in NBA but still fail to surpass MJ who has a shorter NBA career?

 

lets see what teams MJ lost to in his career ( iirc ) 

 

84-85 - MJ rookie season, his bulls made playoff and lost first round to the 2nd seed bucks 

85-86 - Lost first round to the first seed Celtics who went on to win the chip this year ( celtics 67-15 this yr) 

86-87 - Lost first round to the first seed Celics who were the defending champs 

87-88 -  Lost to pistons who won the east this year and lost to lakers in a tough 7 games series in finals

88-89 - Lost to pistons but this series was the real finals(2-4) because Pistons sweep everyone else including finals in playoff this year.

89-90 - Lost to pistons but again this is the real nba finals(3-4) because pistons pretty much either sweep or only lost 1 game to any other team not bulls this playoff.

94-95- Lost to Magic with shaq and penny who won the east this year.

 

LeBron has never face any of those teams in the east as good as MJ had play against and since you like to talk about MJ's lost to 95 Magic this much that 95 Magic team is better than any of the teams lebron had face in his entire East conference career. OH since we are taking about MAGIC team, Lebron lost to Howard's Magic in 09 with homecourt ( 66 wins best record in NBA), Coach of the year mike brown( ?) and Magic didn't even have Nelson for this series due to injruried, what are the excuse for lebron this time? don't give me crap like his teams suck etc, if you do it just shows that lebron fail to win anything without 2 super stars by his side. 

 

LeBron is the best player of his generation there is no doubt about that but lebron fan boys need to face the reality that he is not the GOAT right now, most people have no problem place lebron as the 2nd tho some fans may argue KAJ is the 2nd or the goat which he made a much better case than Lebron now.

And when he ran away to play baseball to avoid Hakeem? Most experts did not predict the Bulls to even make the playoffs after winning their third straight championship the season before because of Jordan's departure. But the team, led by Scottie Pippen and an increased role from both Horace Grant and B. J. Armstrong were able to lead the Bulls to a 55-win season, only 2 wins less than the 1992-93 team, which had Jordan. The Bulls finished two games behind the Atlanta Hawks in the Central Division and earned the 3rd seed in the Eastern Conference Playoffs. Pippen and Armstrong were both voted to start in this season's All-Star game, and Grant was also picked as a reserve. Nearly beat the Knicks in the semi-conference finals too.

 

Name a team he beat in the finals with 3 or 4 hall of famers as an opponent? It's a debate, an opinion but I take LeBron as an individual player every single time. 

 

 

 

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Why do you keep saying LeBron has beaten a team with 3-4 hof's? He hasnt beaten a team with 3-4 hall of famers as of today.

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1 hour ago, Auction>Snake said:

And when he ran away to play baseball to avoid Hakeem? Most experts did not predict the Bulls to even make the playoffs after winning their third straight championship the season before because of Jordan's departure. But the team, led by Scottie Pippen and an increased role from both Horace Grant and B. J. Armstrong were able to lead the Bulls to a 55-win season, only 2 wins less than the 1992-93 team, which had Jordan. The Bulls finished two games behind the Atlanta Hawks in the Central Division and earned the 3rd seed in the Eastern Conference Playoffs. Pippen and Armstrong were both voted to start in this season's All-Star game, and Grant was also picked as a reserve. Nearly beat the Knicks in the semi-conference finals too.

 

Name a team he beat in the finals with 3 or 4 hall of famers as an opponent? It's a debate, an opinion but I take LeBron as an individual player every single time. 

 

 

MJ's father was brutally murdered on the street so he retired from the game as he has already accomplish most of the NBA trophy a player can earn and he lost the drive to play. You lebron fan boys have to go this far and make your own theory to discredit MJ. Most Experts if not all pick the Cavs to beat the 09 magic in 5 or 6 games, guess what happened this time bruh?

 

All those key players on bulls were drafted and developed by Bulls along side MJ. Although they are good without MJ but they still fail to win a championship hence MJ is still the key part of that bulls team( to win chips), so whats your point? MJ has a stacked team? Name a championship team lebron had without 2 other superstars , all stars on his team?

 

Super stars and stars in MJ's era are tougher in mentality, they don't just text/making phone calls to team up when they got beaten in the playoff because they want to beat the other greats in order to become the greatest and this is something lebron fan boys like you will never understand because its what Lebron lacks the most. Have you ever seen a GOAT type of player being this passive in an elimination game in finals? The answer is YES we just saw one yesterday.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Carlos Correa said:

 

That's because the East wasn't littered with trash teams back then lol. 

 

This was taken 2 or 3 years ago but you get the idea (I think LeBron is at 14 or 15 50 win teams eliminated despite playing more seasons). It gives you a taste of some of the teams Jordan had to get through just to make it to the finals. If LeBron was in the West he'd keep losing before he ever hit the finals like Jordan did before Pippen.

 

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Do you have a point? Jordan won titles on the best team in the league. Lebron loses to the best team in the league. 

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11 hours ago, Gohawks said:

The Heat were a better option so it doesn’t matter. Those 3 were already old...

 

I always laugh at that meme.  I mean I guess for the common or dumb fan, it makes sense but it's hilariously ignorant.  Allen was almost 36 by the time the playoffs came around the next year.  KG was 35.  Both were in steep declination.  Pierce was 33 so he still had a little in the tank but that team really had a tight window of 2 years and they had almost no salary cap room.  It's a false equivalency fallacy for the ignorant..... Within 2 years, Allen had joined Lebron in Miami as a bench piece and the Celtics were a .500 team who were one and done in a terrible East.  There was no future in Boston and frankly, he couldn't get the talent he needed there if he wasn't going to sign for the minimum (something he wasn't willing to do).... Miami with 2 other All-Stars in their prime (Wade on back end but still in his prime) was a much better choice than playing with 3 old guys past theirs...

 

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2 hours ago, miasma16 said:

Do you have a point? Jordan won titles on the best team in the league. Lebron loses to the best team in the league. 

 

Ding dong, ever think its because Jordan made them the best team in the league? And even if you take away the Warriors match ups, he's still 2-3 in his other Finals Match ups (realistically 1-4 if not for Ray Allen) - - how do you explain those???? 

 

Bottom line is, LeBron is not a winner. Great player yes. I'd happily place him in the Karl Malone, Barkley, David Robinson tiers. Not among the all time greats...MJ, Shaq, Duncan, Kareem, Magics of the world...

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59 minutes ago, jstep13 said:

Bottom line is, LeBron is not a winner. Great player yes. I'd happily place him in the Karl Malone, Barkley, David Robinson tiers. Not among the all time greats...MJ, Shaq, Duncan, Kareem, Magics of the world...

 

That's a silly opinion...... He amongst the handful of players to be considered top 5 players.  He's easily the best of his generation and far better player than Malone, Barkley and the Admiral, who are all-time greats.  If you want to delineate between someone like Jordan or KAJ and Lebron because of their championships, okay.  There's at least a suitable argument but don't marginalize Lebron's amazing talent. 

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10 hours ago, Auction>Snake said:

KD trash in OKC, trash now. Swap KD onto that Cavs squad and they don't make playoffs. Rings are a team achievement. If you're starting a franchise, and you get to choose anyone from the entire history of the NBA. Unequivocally the only choices for your #1 pick are LeBron or Jordan. For me it's LeBron, bigger, faster, stronger. :)

I've been on this forum for some time and you are the saltiest person i've run into. Lebron fans always say it's sad how people just hate and can't appreciate greatness. Exactly what you are doing here. We have never seen a team with such star talent play with so much fun and such selfless basketball yet you continue to spew your bull**** because they keep beating Lebron. 

 

Last finals KD averaged an incredible 35/8/5 with 1 stl and 1.6 blk per game. Including a massive shot to destroy the hopes of Cleveland and consistently performing better than Lebron down the stretch. This finals he averages 29/11/8 with 2.3 bpg and again performs incredible down the stretch. Both these finals he shot well over 50%. Even in his first finals matchup when his team shrunk like i've never seen he still managed to drop 31 PPG and shot 55%.

 

KD is the best pure scorer in the league by a massive margin and a very good defender. He is an incredible player that would average 35 PPG with Lebron like usage. Yet you rather sit here and spew your crap because you are salty. KD is trash yet he keeps outplaying Lebron when the game is on the line. Funny. Game 1 if that is KD with a smaller defender on him he buries the game instead of passing. I'm not even a Warriors fan but it's hilarious to watch people get so butt hurt because the Warriors assembled a good team like literally anyone else would do.

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8 hours ago, jstep13 said:

Wow what an idiot LeBron. Who punches a wall and injures himself after game 1? Took himself out of the series. Wasnt the same since. Some "leader" smdh 

 

Actually it's quite ingenious.

 

After the game 1 loss I'm sure LeBron knew the series was 100% over, and there was a high probability the Cavs would be swept.

 

Injure yourself and you can mitigate the losses in games 2 through 4.

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2 minutes ago, My Dinner With Andre said:

 

Actually it's quite ingenious.

 

After the game 1 loss I'm sure LeBron knew the series was 100% over, and there was a high probability the Cavs would be swept.

 

Injure yourself and you can mitigate the losses in games 2 through 4.

 

Not really. Especially when you're the team leader in your 15th year in the league. If he indeed injured his hand with a Stoudemire'esque move, that won't mitigate any losses since he basically sabotaged himself and his team and thus played a part in securing those losses. Should know better by a mile. Bottled the tiniest of chances they might've had. Think about how close game 1 was when LBJ put up 50+ points. Didn't come close to those numbers again. Now was it really because of a hand injury, or something else... Might've been better off not mentioning the whole hand ordeal. Not a good look IMO.

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41 minutes ago, Preparing the Kool-Aid said:

 

Not really. Especially when you're the team leader in your 15th year in the league. If he indeed injured his hand with a Stoudemire'esque move, that won't mitigate any losses since he basically sabotaged himself and his team and thus played a part in securing those losses. Should know better by a mile. Bottled the tiniest of chances they might've had. Think about how close game 1 was when LBJ put up 50+ points. Didn't come close to those numbers again. Now was it really because of a hand injury, or something else... Might've been better off not mentioning the whole hand ordeal. Not a good look IMO.

 

Alas, the revelation of this injury allows you to, if you choose, look at game 1 and games 2-4 differently.

 

Game 1: Healthy LeBron. Cavs lose in OT. On top of that were the recipient of some bad calls and poor luck.

 

Games 2-4: Injured LeBron. None of the games were close. 16+ pt avg margin of victory for the Warriors

 

See how that makes LeBron look better?

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