theSPANKER 2,061 Posted August 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Flynfiesta6 said:  I mean anything can happen but I'm not drafting the guy after 2 straight years of missing time. They said that he "looked bigger and stronger" last year two, doesn't change the fact that he has a sickle cell disease and cant stay healthy.  Remember though...he was taking on a massive workload before he got hurt. Now sharing rock will probably help him out alot to reach his potential.  In PPR he's going to be the man.  Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flynfiesta6 182 Posted August 31, 2018 24 minutes ago, theSPANKER said:  Remember though...he was taking on a massive workload before he got hurt. Now sharing rock will probably help him out alot to reach his potential.  In PPR he's going to be the man.   How does getting less touches equate to him being the man? He got 25 week 1, 16 week 2 and 20 in week 3, then he got hurt. I'm not saying he wont be relevant some weeks but imo he he not going to be a top 30 RB and he wont play 16 games. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theSPANKER 2,061 Posted August 31, 2018 48 minutes ago, Flynfiesta6 said:  How does getting less touches equate to him being the man? He got 25 week 1, 16 week 2 and 20 in week 3, then he got hurt. I'm not saying he wont be relevant some weeks but imo he he not going to be a top 30 RB and he wont play 16 games.  Because all passing work is going to him...plus GBs D isn't good which lead to more shoot-outs which has Ty's name all over it right.   How are you so certain he's gonna be injured again?  1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smetana34 390 Posted August 31, 2018 23 minutes ago, theSPANKER said:  Because all passing work is going to him...plus GBs D isn't good which lead to more shoot-outs which has Ty's name all over it right.   How are you so certain he's gonna be injured again?  I wouldn't bank on Green Bay's defense being bad. It isn't going to be Minnesota or Jacksonville, but it will be upper half of the league Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flynfiesta6 182 Posted September 1, 2018 2 hours ago, theSPANKER said:  Because all passing work is going to him...plus GBs D isn't good which lead to more shoot-outs which has Ty's name all over it right.   How are you so certain he's gonna be injured again?   GB's D will definitely not be bad, it also helps to have Rogers back on offense as they wont be on the field as much as last season.   Well besides never playing a full season and missing over almost 40% of games, there's this:   https://sportsinjurypredictor.com/player/ty-montgomery/7266 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4sa 499 Posted September 1, 2018 4 hours ago, theSPANKER said:  I certainly wouldn't write him off.  Packers coach Mike McCarthy said people will "see a bigger, stronger Ty Montgomery this year." Montgomery stuck around in Green Bay over the offseason to work with Packers strength and conditioning coordinator Mark Lovat in hopes of improving his durability. "I know that I can be a really good football player; I just need to stay healthy," Montgomery said. "I’m looking forward to getting one full healthy season under my belt." Unlikely to get true lead-back workloads with Jamaal Williams and Aaron Jones also vying for touches, Montgomery should have a better shot to stay healthy this season, but that competition also makes him much less interesting from a fantasy perspective.   Source: ESPN  ESPN's Rob Demovsky writes Ty Montgomery appears set for a "significant role in the offense." Demovsky added Montgomery "didn't appear to lose any ground" to Jamaal Williams and Aaron Jones during OTAs. "We have to take advantage of Ty's skills, and there's no question about that," coach Mike McCarthy said. "The offense is suited for that." While it still seems more likely Williams or Jones wins the early-down role, Montgomery is clearly not going away. He could end up being a value in the double-digit rounds.   Source: ESPN Jun 11 - 9:36 AM   ESPN's Rob Demovsky writes Ty Montgomery has worked as the third-down back early in training camp. According to Demovsky, Jamaal Williams has handled the majority of the "normal down-and-distance situations" while Montgomery has been in during "two-minute and no-huddle drives." Aaron Jones, who is currently sidelined by a hamstring injury and will serve a two-game suspension to start the season, should push Williams for the early-down work, but the passing-down job should be Montgomery's as long as he can stay healthy, making him a solid pick at his ninth-round ADP.   Source: ESPN Jul 30 - 12:40 PM  Ty is clearly a gadget player in this offense. They didn't draft two rookie RBs last season for no reason, especially since they can clearly be productive. Yes he will take some touches in certain situations but he is for the most part irrelevant. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozark 371 Posted September 4, 2018 But what about Aaron jones? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syke2007 18 Posted September 5, 2018 Im trying to get one or the other (A.Jones/J.Williams) where ever I can for the cheapest cost and wait it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joshua18 6,589 Posted September 5, 2018 On 8/31/2018 at 8:40 PM, n4sa said: Ty is clearly a gadget player in this offense. They didn't draft two rookie RBs last season for no reason, especially since they can clearly be productive. Yes he will take some touches in certain situations but he is for the most part irrelevant.  1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
austin316 439 Posted September 5, 2018 I like Ty but he can't stay healthy. Â For what it's worth, I locked up all three GB RBs on one team, but ended up dropping Ty for Geronimo Allison Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psygolf 2,790 Posted September 5, 2018 I'm thinking that, because of Rodgers, the packers have less "3rd downs" in a season than most teams-?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ponchsox 1,234 Posted September 5, 2018 Must own if you draft Williams. Lock up the GB backfield. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smeeze 5,290 Posted September 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, ponchsox said: Must own if you draft Williams. Lock up the GB backfield. Â You're not at all concerned that Ty Montgomery has some sort of role? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ponchsox 1,234 Posted September 5, 2018 Just now, smeeze said:  You're not at all concerned that Ty Montgomery has some sort of role? TyMont’s value is at best a PPR flex play. Williams/Jones will be a solid RB2 whoever starts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JetsAwesome 538 Posted September 5, 2018 1 hour ago, smeeze said: Â You're not at all concerned that Ty Montgomery has some sort of role? Yea in a ppr league couldn't get Jones( to handcuff my williams)Â Â so got Ty instead since if there is an injury Ty will def get some enhanced value in PPR leagues. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rylaughlin 32 Posted September 5, 2018 I have both Jones and Williams in the one league I'm in and I'm slightly concerned that Ty, whom I don't have, could be the next man up before Jones. Thankfully barring an early JW injury he should hit waivers soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Power-O 290 Posted September 5, 2018 yeah i think moore will be on waivers eventually...i nabed williams and grabbed ty...ty will have a role no matter what in this offense IMO. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juke 356 Posted September 15, 2018 Is Jones expected to be given an opportunity at lead back upon his return? Williams didn't look great but 1 game is too small a sample size.  Whats the chances he gets 15 touches his first game back? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kco734 304 Posted September 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Juke said: Is Jones expected to be given an opportunity at lead back upon his return? Williams didn't look great but 1 game is too small a sample size.  Whats the chances he gets 15 touches his first game back? Anyone’s guess at this point. Owners of Jamaal Williams sure seem pretty down on him right now. When you compare the 80 Career carries from Jones, to the 130 career carries of Williams, Jones is a full 2 YPC higher.  Williams however, is very good at blocking for Aaron’s Rodgers. I’d rank this backfield right there with Indianapolis, Detroit, and New England as difficult backfields to analyze. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommyGunZ 42 Posted September 15, 2018 Jones owners couldn’t be in a better position - neither Williams nor Montgomery flashed in week 1 and week 2 is perhaps the worst matchup of the season (Minn).  Another low production game from the Packer RBs should cement Jones’ opportunity to step into practice on Tues with an open opportunity to takeover.  A Williams fumble this weekend would be the cherry on top for us Jones owners.  1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rabaak 182 Posted September 15, 2018 49 minutes ago, tommyGunZ said: Jones owners couldn’t be in a better position - neither Williams nor Montgomery flashed in week 1 and week 2 is perhaps the worst matchup of the season (Minn).  Another low production game from the Packer RBs should cement Jones’ opportunity to step into practice on Tues with an open opportunity to takeover.  A Williams fumble this weekend would be the cherry on top for us Jones owners.  And when Rodgers gets killed because Jones couldn't block me, let alone Harrison Smith on a blitz, we might not see Jones for a while again either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ponchsox 1,234 Posted September 15, 2018 As both a Williams/Jones owner, I just need one of these guys to be a solid RB3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliminator123 2,843 Posted September 15, 2018 Anyone referring to week 1 is downplaying the entire game. Â They were behind the entire 2nd half and throwing constantly. Meanwhile the entire 1st half the offensive line was torn apart by the Bears defense. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markrc99 457 Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) On 9/5/2018 at 9:50 AM, smeeze said: "You're not at all concerned that Ty Montgomery has some sort of role?"  Could be a tweener deal, who knows? When the cold & the wind & the footing factor the most, teams like the Packers run the ball more. To me, down the stretch, when the games matter most, Montgomery is the guy they want in one piece. The personnel, the philosophy, not a lot of line up & mash. I don't think there's even one offense in that grouping any less often than Green Bay. It's an offense that takes what the defense gives them & the more versatile the RB, the more suited he is.    Edited September 15, 2018 by markrc99 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
disasterisk 1,267 Posted September 15, 2018 47 minutes ago, rabaak said: And when Rodgers gets killed because Jones couldn't block me, let alone Harrison Smith on a blitz, we might not see Jones for a while again either.  I've never seen one RBs value propped up so heavily based on their ability to block in the history of fantasy football. I don't even see an RBs blocking ability discussed in any depth or with any regularity in any other RB thread. Do you play in a league where your RB gets points for blocking? Maybe it's just me, but when an RB I started is seeing snaps, I'd like it if he had the opportunity to touch the ball in those situations and not be stuck blocking. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites