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Jayson Tatum 2018-2019 Season Outlook

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MAAAAN I swear to God this guy is new KD...

I'M IN LOVE in his game... so skilful, so elegant, so efficient...

I almost feel bad (fantasywise) because he's a part of so stacked Boston roster..  He already could be better player that Hayward...

Anyways... what your expectation (stats & draft position) this upcoming season...

THANKS

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I think the floor is Danny Granger.

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NBA yes, fantasy not so much. Boston has too much talent surrounding him and a more than capable coach.

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54 minutes ago, sya said:

I think the floor is Danny Granger.

Interesting comp. 

 

A: 13.9/4.6/1.4/0.8/0.7/1.3/46%/80%/1.6 TO's/10 fga/g

B: 13.9/5.0/1.6/1.0/0.7/1.3/47%/83%/1.5 TO's/10 fga/g

 

A is Granger's 2nd year when he started getting 30+ mins/game. B was Tatum last season in 30+ mins/game. Nearly identical stats.

 

Fantasywise, Granger didn't really break out until the following year when he increased his fga's to 15+ and his defensive stats went up. Can Tatum do something like that with Kyrie, Hayward, etc. around?

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12 hours ago, sya said:

I think the floor is Danny Granger.

I am lower on Tatum than most, but the Granger comp is an appropriate one. Nice pull there. I worry a lot about what Tatum's position is going to be. Personally I dont love him playing the PF spot and think he actually hurts the team rebounding and size wise. I also worry that with this team at full strength with Kyrie and G Hay that he just isnt going to get the usage that he probably should. I have a sneaking suspicion he'll be a 15-17 ppg guy with good percentages and some stocks. I am bearish that he'll return value based on where he is likely to be drafted at.  

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5 hours ago, Code of Hammurabi said:

I am lower on Tatum than most, but the Granger comp is an appropriate one. Nice pull there. I worry a lot about what Tatum's position is going to be. Personally I dont love him playing the PF spot and think he actually hurts the team rebounding and size wise. I also worry that with this team at full strength with Kyrie and G Hay that he just isnt going to get the usage that he probably should. I have a sneaking suspicion he'll be a 15-17 ppg guy with good percentages and some stocks. I am bearish that he'll return value based on where he is likely to be drafted at.  

It sure is crowded in Boston if everyone is healthy. And we haven't even mentioned Brown and his development. I think Horford is fine taking less shots, but he can't really give up many since he doesn't take many. Kyrie is going to be the guy that is going to have to sacrifice and that is kind of a double edged sword since less usage/role could have him looking to go to his "own team" again when he is a FA. 

 

All that said, Tatum is amazingly talented, but he doesn't force much. Until he starts to grow as an alpha, he will just be in that 15-20 ppg range that comes with the flow of the offense and being really freaking good at basketball. 

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Tatum is going to be pretty much an improvement on himself slightly every year until he is either traded or someone is traded..then he will see a significant improvement in production and slight reduction in efficiency. either way he will be fantasy stud as overall player, top 30...

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21 hours ago, sya said:

I think the floor is Danny Granger.

 

20 hours ago, Auction>Snake said:

NBA yes, fantasy not so much. Boston has too much talent surrounding him and a more than capable coach.

 

20 hours ago, Kaboom said:

Interesting comp. 

 

A: 13.9/4.6/1.4/0.8/0.7/1.3/46%/80%/1.6 TO's/10 fga/g

B: 13.9/5.0/1.6/1.0/0.7/1.3/47%/83%/1.5 TO's/10 fga/g

 

A is Granger's 2nd year when he started getting 30+ mins/game. B was Tatum last season in 30+ mins/game. Nearly identical stats.

 

Fantasywise, Granger didn't really break out until the following year when he increased his fga's to 15+ and his defensive stats went up. Can Tatum do something like that with Kyrie, Hayward, etc. around?

 

8 hours ago, Code of Hammurabi said:

I am lower on Tatum than most, but the Granger comp is an appropriate one. Nice pull there. I worry a lot about what Tatum's position is going to be. Personally I dont love him playing the PF spot and think he actually hurts the team rebounding and size wise. I also worry that with this team at full strength with Kyrie and G Hay that he just isnt going to get the usage that he probably should. I have a sneaking suspicion he'll be a 15-17 ppg guy with good percentages and some stocks. I am bearish that he'll return value based on where he is likely to be drafted at.  

 

1 hour ago, larfboy said:

Tatum is going to be pretty much an improvement on himself slightly every year until he is either traded or someone is traded..then he will see a significant improvement in production and slight reduction in efficiency. either way he will be fantasy stud as overall player, top 30...

 

Ok. Sooooooo in what round are you targeting him ?

He's currently ranked 51... and at the moment... I'm not comfortable drafting him in that range...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Stefan said:

 

 

 

 

 

Ok. Sooooooo in what round are you targeting him ?

He's currently ranked 51... and at the moment... I'm not comfortable drafting him in that range...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Redraft i'd probably draft him in the early mid rounds around the 5th...in Dynasty, he should be top 15 

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I have him in dynasty and I don't love that Hayward and Irving are going to be in the mix. However, he should be a starter and they would probably look to him as the 2 or 3rd option when Irving is on the bench or on the floor respectively. As well, they could try to play him on the 4 spot.

 

Also I think that Irving is definitely going to be shutdown well before the playoffs. BOS can afford it in the weak East and Kyrie has to be kidding himself if he thinks BOS will let him get injured in the regular season and just to lose in the playoffs. Should allow Tatum to be unleashed come Fantasy playoff time.

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On 7/13/2018 at 7:17 AM, rob0403 said:

I have him in dynasty and I don't love that Hayward and Irving are going to be in the mix. However, he should be a starter and they would probably look to him as the 2 or 3rd option when Irving is on the bench or on the floor respectively. As well, they could try to play him on the 4 spot.

 

Also I think that Irving is definitely going to be shutdown well before the playoffs. BOS can afford it in the weak East and Kyrie has to be kidding himself if he thinks BOS will let him get injured in the regular season and just to lose in the playoffs. Should allow Tatum to be unleashed come Fantasy playoff time.

I think I am usually forward thinking and looking pretty deep into things, but you definitely went one step above. I am going to counter with one point. Boston is super deep and they are going to coast into the playoffs and they are probably locking down a top 2 seed without extending themselves. But, that resting down the stretch cuts a lot of ways. Kyrie is injury prone, but he isn't the only important piece. Boston can cycle through and rest two of their starters for long stretches and be fine. Plus, they will want to hit the playoffs on a roll. If you think Kyrie rests come fantasy playoff time then I think you need to consider that ALL celtics will catch some rest down the stretch. Plus, Kyrie isn't a long term piece and a free agent after this year. If they break him they don't have to pay for him. And, if there was a way to rest Kyrie and have him avoid regular season injury the Celtics and Cavs would have figured that out by now. 

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