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Mikal Bridges 2018-19 Season Outlook

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From reading this last page there seems to be far too much concern. Where in you draft did you take him IF you took him in your draft? At the bottom is the right answer. There should be no concern with this guy. He's a rookie flier who just unseated Trevor Ariza from the starting lineup. Give yourself a free pass already.

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29 minutes ago, Spyplane said:

From reading this last page there seems to be far too much concern. Where in you draft did you take him IF you took him in your draft? At the bottom is the right answer. There should be no concern with this guy. He's a rookie flier who just unseated Trevor Ariza from the starting lineup. Give yourself a free pass already.

They were both in the starting lineup. :blink:

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Definite 3 and D potential and he seems to be able to hit his 3s without really being set which seems like a good sign. I suspect there will be some very quiet nights mixed in though considering he isn't guaranteed to continue starting, he is racking up fouls and he has such low rebounds and assists.

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20 minutes ago, Sanchez_ said:

Definite 3 and D potential and he seems to be able to hit his 3s without really being set which seems like a good sign. I suspect there will be some very quiet nights mixed in though considering he isn't guaranteed to continue starting, he is racking up fouls and he has such low rebounds and assists.

 

You roster him for his stocks potential. A more efficient Covington with less rebounds would be a nice ceiling to hit.

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Does anybody actually have confidence in the Suns coach to keep Bridges in the starting lu?? Most of these num nuts never make the right call. 

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So you’d rather pick him than the ones like Morris, Aminu, Trier, Galloway, Dedmon,  Ennis? They are all on my WW.

Still can’t post on AC. Sorry...

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4 minutes ago, chud12 said:

Does anybody actually have confidence in the Suns coach to keep Bridges in the starting lu?? Most of these num nuts never make the right call. 

Nope I dont trust the coach

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1 hour ago, chud12 said:

Does anybody actually have confidence in the Suns coach to keep Bridges in the starting lu?? Most of these num nuts never make the right call. 

 

He might not be a permanent starter right away but the fact that he's already usually getting over 20 minutes a game and closing out most games even this early in the season is an encouraging sign. Kokosov has already made the right moves banishing Ryno from the rotation and (seemingly) de-emphasizing Jackson's role. Add to the fact that Bridges has played very well, has tremendous upside and the Suns will likely prioritize youth as the season wears on as it becomes clear that they won't sniff the playoffs. I don't think you'll find a more promising waiver wire guy in 12+ teams right now considering the circumstances. 

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6 minutes ago, Purple Hippo said:

 

He might not be a permanent starter right away but the fact that he's already usually getting over 20 minutes a game and closing out most games even this early in the season is an encouraging sign. Kokosov has already made the right moves banishing Ryno from the rotation and (seemingly) de-emphasizing Jackson's role. Add to the fact that Bridges has played very well, has tremendous upside and the Suns will likely prioritize youth as the season wears on as it becomes clear that they won't sniff the playoffs. I don't think you'll find a more promising waiver wire guy in 12+ teams right now considering the circumstances. 

Agreed, between his positional versatility, on court contributions and state of the team he should get steady minutes in the mid-20s at least.

With regards to them not sniffing the playoffs -seems crystal clear already. 14 teams in the west have between 7 and 11 wins... the suns are at 3 and it would be a surprise if they don't finish last in the west.

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2 hours ago, Purple Hippo said:

 

You roster him for his stocks potential. A more efficient Covington with less rebounds would be a nice ceiling to hit.

Not happening this season. Suns are total mess. I watched some games, because i own Ayton and am so disappointed with the rotations, the plays (or i might say the lack of plays), the total lack of passing and sharing the ball... Serbian coaches are maybe the best in Europe, but Igor (and Sasha Djordjevic, too) is not good example of that. He won the euro championship only, because Djordjevic made big mistakes in the final for Serbia as their coach and Doncic/Dragic played really well. The "hero ball style" worked in the Euro championship, but in today`s NBA there is no way to succeed without sharing the ball and spacing the floor.

 

But in the future Bridges can be much better than The Lord, especially if Suns don`t draft with the No1 pick.

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I mean..........the guy started and closed out the game.  Why? Because he's statistically their most affective defender by a mile. The Suns were down late and began mounting a serious effort to tie the game and it was Bridges' defense that helped draw the 6ers back in.  Now , they lost but it's clear as clear can be that they trust Bridges in tight situations and that should give owners confidence that he'll get the minutes.  Look for a steady increase in his minutes as the season goes on, but he's a main piece to the future playoff contending Suns. 

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4 minutes ago, MynameisMudd said:

I mean..........the guy started and closed out the game.  Why? Because he's statistically their most affective defender by a mile. The Suns were down late and began mounting a serious effort to tie the game and it was Bridges' defense that helped draw the 6ers back in.  Now , they lost but it's clear as clear can be that they trust Bridges in tight situations and that should give owners confidence that he'll get the minutes.  Look for a steady increase in his minutes as the season goes on, but he's a main piece to the future playoff contending Suns. 

I am not drawing conclusions from the 76ers game. The sixers have a big lineup and that meant Canaan was sitting. I need to see the rotations when they are facing a traditional PG before seeing how they use Ariza and his impact. Ariza played 41 minutes last night so that needs to change as well. Lastly, the Suns are a year away from being a year away. They need development before thinking anything about playoffs. 

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5 minutes ago, thezing1 said:

I am not drawing conclusions from the 76ers game. The sixers have a big lineup and that meant Canaan was sitting. I need to see the rotations when they are facing a traditional PG before seeing how they use Ariza and his impact. Ariza played 41 minutes last night so that needs to change as well. Lastly, the Suns are a year away from being a year away. They need development before thinking anything about playoffs

Yes 100%.  But think about it .........if he's being trusted more and more at the end of tight games and is allowed to develop and grow in the blow outs ,  which option presents him with less minutes?  The writing is on the wall for this season already and like I said by pretty much every metric Bridges has been their most effective defender and it's pretty clear that he's a main cog in their future plans so the ride may be up and down but most rookies experience that but the trends, I believe, will have him more and more as a stalwart in the rotation.  

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8 minutes ago, thezing1 said:

I am not drawing conclusions from the 76ers game. The sixers have a big lineup and that meant Canaan was sitting. I need to see the rotations when they are facing a traditional PG before seeing how they use Ariza and his impact. Ariza played 41 minutes last night so that needs to change as well. Lastly, the Suns are a year away from being a year away. They need development before thinking anything about playoffs. 

Great point.

One thing to add is that while Bridges is a rookie he's an unusual one nowadays as an older player (22) that spent 3 years in college and was drafted in the lottery.  

His game is quite mature and the system that he was accustomed to running at Nova is similar to what they want here so he's very ready to contribute.

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14 minutes ago, thezing1 said:

I am not drawing conclusions from the 76ers game. The sixers have a big lineup and that meant Canaan was sitting. I need to see the rotations when they are facing a traditional PG before seeing how they use Ariza and his impact. Ariza played 41 minutes last night so that needs to change as well. Lastly, the Suns are a year away from being a year away. They need development before thinking anything about playoffs. 

 

You don’t think he will get 22-25 mpg right now with a steady increase as the season moves on?  He’s already averaging 22 for the month and it’s only November.

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Just now, MynameisMudd said:

Yes 100%.  But think about it .........if he's being trusted more and more at the end of tight games and is allowed to develop and grow in the blow outs ,  which option presents him with less minutes?  The writing is on the wall for this season already and like I said by pretty much every metric Bridges has been their most effective defender and it's pretty clear that he's a main cog in their future plans so the ride may be up and down but most rookies experience that but the trends, I believe, will have him more and more as a stalwart in the rotation.  

Booker isn't going to be starting at the 1 usually. Ariza and ayton are starting. Canaan or a PG will start until they make the transition to Booker as a 1 which I don't think they will do. That means bridges or Warren. This team needs scorers (and spacers) to relieve Booker. But again, the sixers are huge with Simmons at the 1 so starting and finishing a game versus the sixers isn't conclusive. It just isn't normal to have a 6' 10" point guard. 

 

I like mikal. I think he is their future. But, I don't think he has solidified a 30+ mpg role yet. I'm not saying it won't happen. Just saying it needs to be a wait and see this week to see how they set the rotation. On a good organization I would feel better about November Mikal. On the Suns nothing would surprise me, sadly. 

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1 minute ago, Purple Hippo said:

 

You don’t think he will get 22-25 mpg right now with a steady increase as the season moves on?  He’s already averaging 22 for the month and it’s only November.

22 minutes absolutely. But 22 minutes means this guy is not getting you enough chances to get stuff to be more than low end. If the shot isn't falling you can't survive on no counting stats for a steal or two. I suppose it could work for specific builds, but it isn't a set it and forget it type. Then you have to consider 3 game weeks for weekly settings, blah blah blah and so on. I love him as a flyer though. He has a fantasy friendly game and that is the second most important thing behind minutes. 

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1 minute ago, thezing1 said:

Booker isn't going to be starting at the 1 usually. Ariza and ayton are starting. Canaan or a PG will start until they make the transition to Booker as a 1 which I don't think they will do. That means bridges or Warren. This team needs scorers (and spacers) to relieve Booker. But again, the sixers are huge with Simmons at the 1 so starting and finishing a game versus the sixers isn't conclusive. It just isn't normal to have a 6' 10" point guard. 

 

I like mikal. I think he is their future. But, I don't think he has solidified a 30+ mpg role yet. I'm not saying it won't happen. Just saying it needs to be a wait and see this week to see how they set the rotation. On a good organization I would feel better about November Mikal. On the Suns nothing would surprise me, sadly. 

I think we are on the same page , I'm just focusing on the fact that it's good to see what is going on right now with Bridges.  They don't have to start him, they don't have to play him at the end of games, they don't have to give him any minutes at all. To see him even taste starts/closing games/meaningful minutes 16 games into his career is not a small matter. He's being mentored by the vets which is a great thing for his future and whether greater fantasy value manifests now or down the road, I think we see that the potential is there for him to become more than just a specialist or end of the bench player.   I could see him being on a lot of championship winning teams this year . 

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Just now, thezing1 said:

22 minutes absolutely. But 22 minutes means this guy is not getting you enough chances to get stuff to be more than low end. If the shot isn't falling you can't survive on no counting stats for a steal or two. I suppose it could work for specific builds, but it isn't a set it and forget it type. Then you have to consider 3 game weeks for weekly settings, blah blah blah and so on. I love him as a flyer though. He has a fantasy friendly game and that is the second most important thing behind minutes. 

 

He's top 100 the past 2 weeks on just 23 minutes a game. I guess that's a statement on the relative high value of stocks more than anything, but it's still perfectly cromulent right now for an end of bench guy off waivers that is likely to have much more value as the season wears on. I play roto so he's a perfect guy to plug in right now for spot starts and stash for the potential explosion later in the season. 

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He's a tough add this week.  I got him in a couple leagues but in most, with the way the schedule is packed, it's tough.  I'm just mad he picked last weekend/this week to blow up.  Any other week, I'd own a lot more of him.

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59 minutes ago, montanski said:

Not happening this season. Suns are total mess. I watched some games, because i own Ayton and am so disappointed with the rotations, the plays (or i might say the lack of plays), the total lack of passing and sharing the ball... Serbian coaches are maybe the best in Europe, but Igor (and Sasha Djordjevic, too) is not good example of that. He won the euro championship only, because Djordjevic made big mistakes in the final for Serbia as their coach and Doncic/Dragic played really well. The "hero ball style" worked in the Euro championship, but in today`s NBA there is no way to succeed without sharing the ball and spacing the floor.

 

But in the future Bridges can be much better than The Lord, especially if Suns don`t draft with the No1 pick.

The Suns are moving the ball very well. They're 3rd in the league in passes made per game (just ahead of the Warriors) and 5th in the league in ast%. Booker ranks 7th in the league in assists, ahead of players like Harden, LeBron or Rubio. If anything, the Suns are passing too much, which results in a lot of unnecessary turnovers. 

 

It also worth mentioning that they played incredibly difficult schedule so far (just 2 game against teams below .500: Mavs and Nets before LeVert got injured), but they are playing better with every game and Bridges has a big role in that. He has by far the best on/off court NetRtg on the team at +28.2 (2nd Ayton is at +8.8 on/off NetRtg).

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14 minutes ago, Purple Hippo said:

 

He's top 100 the past 2 weeks on just 23 minutes a game. I guess that's a statement on the relative high value of stocks more than anything, but it's still perfectly cromulent right now for an end of bench guy off waivers that is likely to have much more value as the season wears on. I play roto so he's a perfect guy to plug in right now for spot starts and stash for the potential explosion later in the season. 

I am not fixated on ranking and focus more on cat contribution. I understand that argument of player ranking, but I also play 8 cat and I guess there is value for a guy that doesn't turn the ball over. But his boards are a huge negative. He is a 1/1/1 guy that really doesn't impact much outside of that. Again, uselful for some builds and not for others. People have to apply their team specfics and league settings. He isnt a blanket statement guy until I see he carves out the 30+ mpg role. Definitely flyer/stash because you have to at this point or someone else will, but I am not sold (even though I own some shares). 

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PHO did trade up to get this guy. From what I can interpret he is the future Trevor Ariza of the team. Basically be the 3&D player Warren & Jackson cannot be.

 

I'm guessing they want to play him more minutes than less later on in the season. The dumpster fire is heating up in PHX.

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