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Darren Collison 2018-2019 Season Outlook

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Finished top 50 in 9cat last year. A personal favorite, love his efficient production. The question is how much Tyreke cuts in to his production. 

 

I'm projecting 12ppg / 2.6 rebs  / 4.8 ast  / 1.6 3pm  / 1.2 stls /   1.1 TO's  on 48% FG and 88% FT.

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Do you realize that last year he made around 47% of his threes out of 205 attempts?
He cannot duplicate season he has.

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4 minutes ago, st1010 said:

ok, so what happened this game?

Foul trouble and blow-out? Based off of the box score. 

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He also missed all of his shots from the field.  I was mildly optimistic before the season but willing to listen to those who said reke will reduce his value.  I still think he’s rosterable but if he’s not making his shots, well his value was in efficiency, and he doesn’t have great counting stats.  I never really drafted him as I had better targets but I do have in a keeper league where he was a throw in from another trade.  I’m not thrilled about yesterday’s performance. 

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16 minutes ago, StifleTower2 said:

He also missed all of his shots from the field.  I was mildly optimistic before the season but willing to listen to those who said reke will reduce his value.  I still think he’s rosterable but if he’s not making his shots, well his value was in efficiency, and he doesn’t have great counting stats.  I never really drafted him as I had better targets but I do have in a keeper league where he was a throw in from another trade.  I’m not thrilled about yesterday’s performance. 

Same... I'm not really feeling him this year with Tyreke Evans on the team.

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Not panicking just yet...but I am concerned. Tyreke will definitely affect him - he's a better ball-handler and scorer and Collison just isn't a very assertive player. 

 

If you guys have George Hill available in your league I'd actually look into picking him up, or Shai-Gilgeous Alexander

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3 minutes ago, fabrar said:

Not panicking just yet...but I am concerned. Tyreke will definitely affect him - he's a better ball-handler and scorer and Collison just isn't a very assertive player. 

 

If you guys have George Hill available in your league I'd actually look into picking him up, or Shai-Gilgeous Alexander

Why Shai-Gilgeous Alexander?

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Just now, lilremix328 said:

Why Shai-Gilgeous Alexander?

I think I'm higher on Shai than a lot of people but I watched the entire LAC-DEN game last night, and Shai looked great. Very composed on both ends, some nice offensive moves and the length to play great defense (got a steal and a block). Also played the 3rd most minutes after Tobias and Gallo (28 minutes to be specific). He's coming off the bench for now but the Clippers seem all-in on him and I think he will get a lot of burn. Pat Bev is really just a defensive specialist and Teodosic is always injured and barely an NBA calibre player, so I think he has a path to some good production.

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Where is everyone at on him? I'm not feeling bullish on his ROS outlook, given McMillan talking up Tyreke's role on the team, and Joseph's solid play. I'm thinking of giving him a couple more games before I drop him. Being a first time owner of him, should I wait it out, or drop him for a hot FA?

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I dropped him for Hart last night. Oladipo and Evans need the ball too much for my liking for Collison I made a mistake drafting him.

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I've had him on my teams for the last couple of years & have a 8th round pick invested this year. Hoping he gets going. He's been dependable.

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I took him when I could have drafted much better contributors.  Underestimated the Reke factor.  Oh well.

 

He's a hold for me for now.  I'm not expecting much but hope he can at least get some steals along with low volume efficiency.

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18 minutes ago, SnackilleOatmeal said:

Where is everyone at on him? I'm not feeling bullish on his ROS outlook, given McMillan talking up Tyreke's role on the team, and Joseph's solid play. I'm thinking of giving him a couple more games before I drop him. Being a first time owner of him, should I wait it out, or drop him for a hot FA?

I think if you spent a draft pick on him you did so for a reason.  Look at guys such as Covington.  Didn’t have a great opening night (although he did get 2 steals/2 threes/1 block). There’s variance in this game, and you have to wait for an adequate sample size, but if he’s still not doing anything in a few weeks then you can feel comfortable dropping him.  That said I’m not optimistic he’ll do anything.

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If you owned him last year, he had a few games like this (albeit not quite as bad) but still turned it around. Sure it's very possible reke kills Collison's value, but can't overreact off a game where his shot didn't fall and the game was over by the half.

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I believe it's the last year of his contract, so there's that.

 

Looking over his game logs last season, it seems there will be nights like this.

 

The only thing that irked me is his 3 TO's lol.

 

I don't care if he scores single digits once in a while, I want that 5:1 ratio.

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I had Collison last year. I'm about to drop him for Trey Burke who became available and see what happens. I can't imagine DC will be scooped up by anyone during my little trial run with Burke.

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What can i do with Collison ?

if i want to trade him against a player who does blocks and rebounds... who i can target for a equal trade ? Thanks you

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1 hour ago, Tomy said:

What can i do with Collison ?

if i want to trade him against a player who does blocks and rebounds... who i can target for a equal trade ? Thanks you

 

His value is kind of down right now. You may just have to wait for him to produce a little more before getting anyone of value back for him. That first game effort is really screwing his averages

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Dropped him a couple of days ago for Hart. It was risky but as you say: Barely top 100 atm when he has no off nights.

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