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Oh snap I didnt realize McGuire's game winning touchdown was on 4th and goal with basically the game on the line down 3 with 1:20 left.  Instead of kicking game tying FG they gave it to Elijah for the win. That shows quite a lot of confidence from the coaches.  

 

LETS GO

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He looked pretty good on the highlights, of course those are just the big plays though.  What I did see was some elusiveness though not sure about his overall speed.  He made some good cuts and reads on the plays we did see.  Pass protection seemed okay too.

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Why is no one taking the opponent into consideration???  Here are the texans opponents last several weeks:

 

14:  Indy - Mack 33 yds and a Td

13:  Chubb - 31 yds and a Td 3 Rec 41 yds

12: Henry:  30 yds and 2 Rec 19 yds

 

slow your roll that this guy is gonna go off.  No one would cut any of the above to add him.  I would not be relying on him in the playoffs against this team.

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2 minutes ago, jjbooda said:

Why is no one taking the opponent into consideration???  Here are the texans opponents last several weeks:

 

14:  Indy - Mack 33 yds and a Td

13:  Chubb - 31 yds and a Td 3 Rec 41 yds

12: Henry:  30 yds and 2 Rec 19 yds

 

slow your roll that this guy is gonna go off.  No one would cut any of the above to add him.  I would not be relying on him in the playoffs against this team.

 

Most of us just want a reasonable flex option in this RB wasteland.  8-11 pts bc of volume is fine with most. 

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Just now, Zak0221 said:

 

Most of us just want a reasonable flex option in this RB wasteland.  8-11 pts bc of volume is fine with most. 

 

I think 8 - 11 is fair projection.  

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9 minutes ago, jjbooda said:

Why is no one taking the opponent into consideration???  Here are the texans opponents last several weeks:

 

14:  Indy - Mack 33 yds and a Td

13:  Chubb - 31 yds and a Td 3 Rec 41 yds

12: Henry:  30 yds and 2 Rec 19 yds

 

slow your roll that this guy is gonna go off.  No one would cut any of the above to add him.  I would not be relying on him in the playoffs against this team.

 

Who said hes going to go off? 

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42 minutes ago, jjbooda said:

Why is no one taking the opponent into consideration???  Here are the texans opponents last several weeks:

 

14:  Indy - Mack 33 yds and a Td

13:  Chubb - 31 yds and a Td 3 Rec 41 yds

12: Henry:  30 yds and 2 Rec 19 yds

 

slow your roll that this guy is gonna go off.  No one would cut any of the above to add him.  I would not be relying on him in the playoffs against this team.

 

I’m hoping for a line similar to what Chubb had, and I think it’s doable.  

 

Those last 3 games were at home... run defenses in general tend to soften up a bit on the road.

 

I don’t think anyone is counting on 100 yards and 2 TDs... Anything over 8 pts standard and I’m a happy man.  

 

I probably speak for most of us in that he’ll be the weakest player in our semi-final lineups, so I just don’t want him to lose me the week.  It’s not ideal but injuries have forced my hand.  I think he’s a better flex option than the middling bench WRs on my roster (Corey Davis, Humphries).

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56 minutes ago, jjbooda said:

Why is no one taking the opponent into consideration???  Here are the texans opponents last several weeks:

 

14:  Indy - Mack 33 yds and a Td

13:  Chubb - 31 yds and a Td 3 Rec 41 yds

12: Henry:  30 yds and 2 Rec 19 yds

 

slow your roll that this guy is gonna go off.  No one would cut any of the above to add him.  I would not be relying on him in the playoffs against this team.

 

Good post but I do want to point out that Eli is not a good match with any of the above in terms of body type/style of play. None of these guys are reputable pass-catchers (Chubb is doing work to change that). Eli is quicker in space than these backs as well.

 

Not ripping at all - just pointing out a significant difference in type of back.

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25 minutes ago, SkinsChargersFan said:

I probably speak for most of us in that he’ll be the weakest player in our semi-final lineups, so I just don’t want him to lose me the week.  It’s not ideal but injuries have forced my hand.  I think he’s a better flex option than the middling bench WRs on my roster (Corey Davis, Humphries).

 

Much nicer flex than those options

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I feel like I have to start him over Michel in PPR. Floor and average are higher. My one regret will be if Michel throws up a 3 tds and 100.

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17 hours ago, Zak0221 said:

 

Broncos WRs over him??? Cmon lol 

 

Id be plenty happy with 17 carries 45 yards rushing 1 TD 4 catches 32 yards

Yes check Sutton’s game before last, and hamtilon and Patrick’s numbers last week. We’re talking about Elijah McGuire here lol and against an amazing defense 

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17 hours ago, SkinsChargersFan said:

 

I don’t blame you, Courtland Sutton is on a heater. So hot right now. 🔥

Game before last, yes it was fire. And check hamilton and Patrick’s stats since sanders out last game. Research 

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9 minutes ago, floppy said:

Game before last, yes it was fire. And check hamilton and Patrick’s stats since sanders out last game. Research 

 

I don’t need to check, I know them.  I’ve had Sutton on my team since DT was traded... One solid game (4/85/1) against the worst pass defense in the league isn’t a heater.  He doesn’t get enough targets to be trusted.  He’s not a complete WR at this point in his career, he’s simply a jump ball specialist.

 

Either Patrick or Hamilton will probably do well, but which one? I’d lean Hamilton because he’s out of the slot, but who knows.  Keenum can’t support more than 1 maybe 2 WRs any given week, so you’re throwing darts.  Good luck with that.

 

I’ll take the guy who’s getting 15+ touches over that mess.

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23 minutes ago, SkinsChargersFan said:

 

I don’t need to check, I know them.  I’ve had Sutton on my team since DT was traded... One solid game (4/85/1) against the worst pass defense in the league isn’t a heater.  He doesn’t get enough targets to be trusted.  He’s not a complete WR at this point in his career, he’s simply a jump ball specialist.

 

Either Patrick or Hamilton will probably do well, but which one? I’d lean Hamilton because he’s out of the slot, but who knows.  Keenum can’t support more than 1 maybe 2 WRs any given week, so you’re throwing darts.  Good luck with that.

 

I’ll take the guy who’s getting 15+ touches over that mess.

Not a bad argument. Fine, I’ll start mcguire :)

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23 minutes ago, floppy said:

Not a bad argument. Fine, I’ll start mcguire :)

 

I have a feeling I’m gonna get blamed when McGuire struggles and one of the 3 Broncos has a good game. “I knew I should have started (insert Hamilton, Patrick, or Sutton here) over McGuire!”

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6 minutes ago, SkinsChargersFan said:

 

I have a feeling I’m gonna get blamed when McGuire struggles and one of the 3 Broncos has a good game. “I knew I should have started (insert Hamilton, Patrick, or Sutton here) over McGuire!”

 

I'll stand with you. Starting with volume-based confidence. 

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Pretty good last week against Buffalo when the workload shifted to him, did he have any games as the primary back last year that we can reference?  Considering a start despite the tough matchup due to his presumed volume but also might wait to see how the RB situation in San Fran shakes out, I have Wilson Jr and would definitely prefer him of McGuire if Breida is out

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2 minutes ago, SkinsChargersFan said:

 

I have a feeling I’m gonna get blamed when McGuire struggles and one of the 3 Broncos has a good game. “I knew I should have started (insert Hamilton, Patrick, or Sutton here) over McGuire!”

 

Why? You do realize most of this s--- at this point is luck anyways? I mean, injuries thrust guys like JJ and Williams into feature roles, just in time for the playoffs. And then one missed tackle can mean the difference between RB1 production and waiver fodder. 

 

Just gotta guess lucky. That’s all. 

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7 minutes ago, poormansmoorman said:

Pretty good last week against Buffalo when the workload shifted to him, did he have any games as the primary back last year that we can reference?  Considering a start despite the tough matchup due to his presumed volume but also might wait to see how the RB situation in San Fran shakes out, I have Wilson Jr and would definitely prefer him of McGuire if Breida is out

 

Jets game is today in a few hours so you won't have that luxury unfortunately.

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6 minutes ago, Sonny_D said:

 

Why? You do realize most of this s--- at this point is luck anyways? I mean, injuries thrust guys like JJ and Williams into feature roles, just in time for the playoffs. And then one missed tackle can mean the difference between RB1 production and waiver fodder. 

 

Just gotta guess lucky. That’s all. 

 

I’d like to respond to this in full, but I fear it would start another “Luck v. Skill” argument. 😁

 

But anyway, I think luck factors much more on the injury part of the equation than the Start v. Sit part.  

 

Trying to choose which Broncos WR to start... you’re hoping to get lucky.  Starting McGuire minimizes the luck factor IMO.  Barring something unforeseen, you know you’re getting the touches.  You just gotta hope he can do something with them.

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2 minutes ago, Maroney's Bolgna said:

 

Jets game is today in a few hours so you won't have that luxury unfortunately.

Yeah that's my dilemma.  Definitely way more upside with Wilson if Breida is out but my other options are Mack or Ingram who are also hard to trust.  I'm wondering if McGuire is the safest floor play or if I should wait it out for Wilson.  I've also heard Cannon could be heavily involved on passing plays which would be a concern for McGuire potential.  Also hard to trust a jet

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20 minutes ago, poormansmoorman said:

Yeah that's my dilemma.  Definitely way more upside with Wilson if Breida is out but my other options are Mack or Ingram who are also hard to trust.  I'm wondering if McGuire is the safest floor play or if I should wait it out for Wilson.  I've also heard Cannon could be heavily involved on passing plays which would be a concern for McGuire potential.  Also hard to trust a jet

 

In a similar-ish situation with Wilson so have been monitoring Breida updates.

 

Most recent reports I've found suggest Breida is on track to play:

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/49ers-matt-breida-expects-to-play-sunday/

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/12/14/49ers-matt-breida-gets-green-light-for-return-vs-seahawks/

 

(Although if he plays, how many snaps will he last before re-injury)

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1 hour ago, poormansmoorman said:

Pretty good last week against Buffalo when the workload shifted to him, did he have any games as the primary back last year that we can reference?  Considering a start despite the tough matchup due to his presumed volume but also might wait to see how the RB situation in San Fran shakes out, I have Wilson Jr and would definitely prefer him of McGuire if Breida is out

 

I too prefer Wilson Jr over McGuire if Breida is out. That said, if Breida is in I also have a capable fallback option in an even later game (Curtis Samuel) so I can afford to bench McGuire and wait on the SF. If you don't have one of those, probably best to just roll out McGuire and take the floor play. Of course, the concern is how low that floor is given the matchup and if McGuire doesn't seem as much in the passing game as we hope.  

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