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3 minutes ago, jumboJET85 said:

And I guess you’re saying David Moore is as good as Doug Baldwin 

 

47 minutes ago, martinjlm said:

Improved defense means less plays needed on offense.

Run first offense continues to limits the number of pass attempts.

Wilson is top 5 in QB rush attempts and only averaging 26 passes per game.

Moore is now another solid mouth to feed for receptions.

DK has taken the Baldwin role.

Dissly is taking over the receiving TD upside.

I think that's plenty of "expounding."

Reading is a good habit.

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5 minutes ago, Sivaro said:

What is the scoop on him?

 

He’s a 7th rounder with brick hands who only plays because they have nothing else.

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3 minutes ago, jumboJET85 said:

How has DK affected him when he’s had two solid games? 

How is a single catch and a lucky TD a solid game?

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1 minute ago, martinjlm said:

How is a single catch and a lucky TD a solid game?

if all TDs are considered "lucky" by detractors....

I'd rather be lucky than good...

Lockett plays 67% of his snaps in the slot... That's the Doug Baldwin's role.

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25 minutes ago, Szer0 said:

if all TDs are considered "lucky" by detractors....

I'd rather be lucky than good...

Lockett plays 67% of his snaps in the slot... That's the Doug Baldwin's role.

The Baldwin role is the "WR1" on the team regardless of where they line up.

Example: AB was the #1 on the Patriots until today. Now Edelman is the WR1, not Gordon who takes over for AB.

I'd rather be correct than lucky.

 

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20 minutes ago, martinjlm said:

The Baldwin role is the "WR1" on the team regardless of where they line up.

Example: AB was the #1 on the Patriots until today. Now Edelman is the WR1, not Gordon who takes over for AB.

I'd rather be correct than lucky.

 

If by being correct you mean 'presumptious' then sure.

DK has 7 receptions on 13 targets. Lockett has 11 receptions on 14 targets. Not so clear cut here.
Lockett's 1 reception game was caused by him being purposefully gameplanned out by the bengals defense = obviously DK would be Russ' next read. Does gameplanning for a receiver not scream "WR1"?

Obviously he bounced back with a 10-for-12 effort as Russ's first read against the Steelers' heavy blitz packages. Still doesn't sound like a team's WR1?

Carroll has praised him and has vouched to use him all over the field more this year. Russ and Lockett have a connection. DK coming in, as a rookie, isn't going to change that. I'm not trying to discount how special DK is, but I wouldn't call him the WR1 of the team just yet.

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1 hour ago, martinjlm said:

The Baldwin role is the "WR1" on the team regardless of where they line up.

Example: AB was the #1 on the Patriots until today. Now Edelman is the WR1, not Gordon who takes over for AB.

I'd rather be correct than lucky.

 

 

I really don't get this logic.  Are you trying to attribute fantasy points = WR1, WR2, etc status?  If so, that is extremely premature 2 games into the year.  I don't know how else you're reaching the conclusion of what "WR1" status means.  You do realize that neither Edelman or AB are/were the highest scoring fantasy WR on the Patriots so far this year right?  That belongs to Dorsett, does that make him their WR1?  No.  You can say the same thing about the Seattle WR situation.  The best way I have found to understand the hierarchy of a team's WRs is snap counts - and where I do agree is that Edelman is New England's WR1, the snap counts make that very clear (Edelman 93.7%, Gordon 74.6%, Dorsett 66%).  We also have to consider that adding AB into the mix last week threw off everyone's counts except Edelman, so the disparity there makes sense. 

 

Now lets look at Seattle's WR snap counts: Lockett 89.4%, Metcalf 84.1%, J. Brown 75%. If you're applying logic from one situation to another, Lockett is the WR1.  Is it close?  Absolutely.  Before long this could very well be a 1a and 1b situation, maybe it already is.  I think both are going to be productive honestly.  As far as the "role" in the offense they play, as a poster mentioned above, Lockett takes most of his plays in the slot, just like Doug Baldwin did - so that is the role in the offense he is filling.  If anything, Metcalf is filling Lockett's role from last year which is the deep threat specialist, as he has about 50% of Seattle's total air yards so far this year.

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6 hours ago, Bryce84 said:

 

I really don't get this logic.  Are you trying to attribute fantasy points = WR1, WR2, etc status?  If so, that is extremely premature 2 games into the year.  I don't know how else you're reaching the conclusion of what "WR1" status means.  You do realize that neither Edelman or AB are/were the highest scoring fantasy WR on the Patriots so far this year right?  That belongs to Dorsett, does that make him their WR1?  No.  You can say the same thing about the Seattle WR situation.  The best way I have found to understand the hierarchy of a team's WRs is snap counts - and where I do agree is that Edelman is New England's WR1, the snap counts make that very clear (Edelman 93.7%, Gordon 74.6%, Dorsett 66%).  We also have to consider that adding AB into the mix last week threw off everyone's counts except Edelman, so the disparity there makes sense. 

 

Now lets look at Seattle's WR snap counts: Lockett 89.4%, Metcalf 84.1%, J. Brown 75%. If you're applying logic from one situation to another, Lockett is the WR1.  Is it close?  Absolutely.  Before long this could very well be a 1a and 1b situation, maybe it already is.  I think both are going to be productive honestly.  As far as the "role" in the offense they play, as a poster mentioned above, Lockett takes most of his plays in the slot, just like Doug Baldwin did - so that is the role in the offense he is filling.  If anything, Metcalf is filling Lockett's role from last year which is the deep threat specialist, as he has about 50% of Seattle's total air yards so far this year.

 

You're being a little premature as well with your last statement. In the first game I believe Lockett had 2 targets, both of which were deep balls. Second game he was a PPR machine. Who knows what trend will emerge long term, but Lockett can do it all so they'll probably use him in all capacities this year. 

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11 hours ago, martinjlm said:

How is a single catch and a lucky TD a solid game?

 

We can apply conditional statements to any player. I’m sure if I cared I could do the same for DK Metcalf. 

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10 hours ago, owenmills said:

 

You're being a little premature as well with your last statement. In the first game I believe Lockett had 2 targets, both of which were deep balls. Second game he was a PPR machine. Who knows what trend will emerge long term, but Lockett can do it all so they'll probably use him in all capacities this year. 

 

I do apologize, it was not meant to be spoken as gospel.  There is certainly a whole hell of a lot that is to be determined.  I don't think there's anyone else on the Seattle roster better suited to play primarily in the slot than Lockett though.  It sure wont be Metcalf.  I like Ursua there, but he probably wont see the field if everyone else is healthy.

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On 9/20/2019 at 9:18 PM, martinjlm said:

I sure hope everyone is dumping their Lockett shares after his final good game of the season...

 

 

 

On 9/20/2019 at 9:33 PM, martinjlm said:

Improved defense means less plays needed on offense.

Run first offense continues to limits the number of pass attempts.

Wilson is top 5 in QB rush attempts and only averaging 26 passes per game.

Moore is now another solid mouth to feed for receptions.

DK has taken the Baldwin role.

Dissly is taking over the receiving TD upside.

I think that's plenty of "expounding."

 

On 9/20/2019 at 9:57 PM, martinjlm said:

I guess you didn't play fantasy last year when Baldwin was active?

 

On 9/20/2019 at 10:21 PM, martinjlm said:

 

Reading is a good habit.

 

14 Targets 11 Catches 154Yards TD later....

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In case we were still wondering, yes, Tyler Lockett has taken over the Doug Baldwin role. High-end WR2 ROS, with the possibility for more.

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On 9/20/2019 at 10:18 PM, martinjlm said:

I sure hope everyone is dumping their Lockett shares after his final good game of the season...

 

 

Imagine believing in your take strong enough to post this only to watch Lockett get 14 targets and go for 11-154-1. Can you post in more of my players’ threads? 

 

Glad the believers kept the faith. More to come this season, fellas.

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Lockett had a big week.

 

But that is because the run game went out the window and Carson got in the dog house  / Penny Injured.

 

Expect a regression....Trade high

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Woah it's almost like Russell is a good QB and the Seahawks don't have to play REAL SMASHMOUTH FOOTBAH


Maybe Schotty will get his head out of his a** and let Wilson throw more often

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Second straight game with 12+ targets. One where they led almost the entire game, and one where they were playing catch up.

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Weird game.  Seattle had almost double the yardage of the Saints.  They had 11 more first downs.  They in the game at all until the 4th, and that was pure garbage time for the most part.  That last garbage TD that they gave them 10 tries for (or whatever it was) made it look closer than it was.  I'm not sure I've seen a game where a guy goes for career days, the other team is terrible at offense, and it wasn't really close.

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31 minutes ago, Sternes said:

Weird game.  Seattle had almost double the yardage of the Saints.  They had 11 more first downs.  They in the game at all until the 4th, and that was pure garbage time for the most part.  That last garbage TD that they gave them 10 tries for (or whatever it was) made it look closer than it was.  I'm not sure I've seen a game where a guy goes for career days, the other team is terrible at offense, and it wasn't really close.

 

Punt return TD and fumble return TD will do that. 

Great usage for Lockett the last 2 weeks, so things are definitely looking up. It was against poor slot coverage defenses (from what I understand) in the Steelers and Saints, so will be interesting to see if this trend continues. 

Regardless, Cardinals are up next so will be riding him next week for sure. 

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40 minutes ago, sSektor said:

Woah it's almost like Russell is a good QB and the Seahawks don't have to play REAL SMASHMOUTH FOOTBAH


Maybe Schotty will get his head out of his a** and let Wilson throw more often

I love Wilson, and I love Lockett but Schotty will never, ever, ever, NEVER get his head out of his a**. 

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Just now, yossarian said:

I love Wilson, and I love Lockett but Schotty will never, ever, ever, NEVER get his head out of his a**. 

 

SMASH

MOUF

 

FOOTBAH

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