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Kareem Hunt 2019 Outlook

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45 minutes ago, urban2014 said:

What if he is your keeper?

 

Depends on your keeper settings.  I have a league where you keep 1 guy for only 1 year in the round he was acquired.  Guice wasn't picked up till November because roster spots are that valuable.

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59 minutes ago, SurlyRobot said:

I read them, and you left out the victim's version which is what lead people to the conclusion you're taking his side which I've tried explaining to you a few times here. If you don't want to accept her story fine, but don't act shocked when people point that out.

Dude why are you going on about taking sides when none are taken?

You are spreading misinformation because you have a bias and you obviously don't know the facts

The facts are:

1.the victim wanted to press charges and she wanted police to look at the hotel surveillance. The police could not do that because they didnt have a warrant to get the footage. The victim was told she could pursue charges by filing with the city prosecutor.   All of this is on camera. She chose not to file charges with the proesecutor. 

2. A witness in Hunts group gave a statement to police the victim used a racial slur

3. Everyone admits there was an altercation however the extent was unknown until video was obtained by a celeb gossip site

 

So once again slur->violence->police investigation does not equal domestic violence, instead it was ASSAULT,  which was my point.  There is no side and no need for the victims story as you claim. These are the official facts. 👈

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On 3/18/2019 at 10:24 AM, Lord_Varys said:

Here's the deal:

You should not be drafting Kareem Hunt at all unless you're in a 14-team league or in a 10-12 man league with tons of bench spots.

Hunt's suspended through Week 8.  Week 9, you're not starting him.  Say he comes out and looks OK.  It's not until Week 10 that you can even THINK about putting this guy into your active roster.  And then what?  You think he's gonna be the Browns starting running back?  He'll be an RB2 at best as the 1b in a timeshare, and even that upside won't be reached until Week 12 or so.  Best case scenario.

Tons of people are gonna hold onto this dead weight all year and miss out on the James Conner / Alvin Kamara late round pickups because they don't want to let go.  Roster spots are too valuable.  Just... don't do it.

 

I love the idea of getting Hunt as a Chubb owner in keeper leagues. You get Chubb as an RB1, plus a killer handcuff for the second half of the season in case Chubb gets hurt, and you might even be able to start both, using Hunt as an RB2/3/Flex type along with Chubb for the final few weeks if necessary. Then there’s a great chance Hunt is the starter somewhere else in 2020, or maybe even traded before the deadline this year. 

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5 hours ago, Lord_Varys said:

 

Depends on your keeper settings.  I have a league where you keep 1 guy for only 1 year in the round he was acquired.  Guice wasn't picked up till November because roster spots are that valuable.

 

I don't think Hunt is valuable enough to be kept in keeper leagues. In Dynasty formats probably, but most dynasty leagues keep most, or all, of their roster.

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12 hours ago, Lamont Sanford said:

 

I love the idea of getting Hunt as a Chubb owner in keeper leagues. You get Chubb as an RB1, plus a killer handcuff for the second half of the season in case Chubb gets hurt, and you might even be able to start both, using Hunt as an RB2/3/Flex type along with Chubb for the final few weeks if necessary. Then there’s a great chance Hunt is the starter somewhere else in 2020, or maybe even traded before the deadline this year. 

I guess...if you can get Hunt for virtually nothing.  Still, I would probably rather use that roster spot on a player who will be active all season.  2020 and beyond?  We don't even know yet if Hunt will successfully make it back to where he was.  Don't tell this to Le'Veon Bell, but sitting out for 15 or 16 games in a row is normally not too good for a player's career.

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17 hours ago, urban2014 said:

What if he is your keeper?

If Hunt is your keeper, it's time to find a different keeper.

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44 minutes ago, SharkSwimmer said:

I guess...if you can get Hunt for virtually nothing.  Still, I would probably rather use that roster spot on a player who will be active all season.  2020 and beyond?  We don't even know yet if Hunt will successfully make it back to where he was.  Don't tell this to Le'Veon Bell, but sitting out for 15 or 16 games in a row is normally not too good for a player's career.

That would be more  likely if you are speaking of a 30yr rb but not a 23yr old rb. As long as they are healthy and talented they will be used.

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9 minutes ago, dashoe said:

That would be more  likely if you are speaking of a 30yr rb but not a 23yr old rb. As long as they are healthy and talented they will be used.

What? You actually think they will utilize the once leading rusher? He's going to rot in JAIL

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39 minutes ago, bhawks489 said:

What? You actually think they will utilize the once leading rusher? He's going to rot in JAIL

I have seen nothing to indicate that Hunt will have to go to jail, at least not yet.  If he keeps trying to solve all of life's problems with his fists, he may land there eventually.

Since I mostly focus on redraft, Hunt is a super easy player to avoid for me in 2019.  As stated, once he serves his 8 gamer, how long will it take to get up to speed?  Probably by the time the fantasy portion of the season is pretty much over.

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Hunt serving jail time seems unlikely.

 

everyone should have an opportunity to atone for their mistakes.

 

A lot of folks seem to confuse vengeance for justice, or perhaps knowingly seek vengeance.  Ridiculous considering they have nothing to do with the victim or the incident and will never be a part of it.  Using the victim to vent your own moral outrage is just, ugh.

if Hunt plays and plays well when he returns he can still have a gantastic career.  I will be holding in my dynasty leagues.  He could even outperform Chubb eventually.

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On 3/20/2019 at 7:47 AM, SharkSwimmer said:

If Hunt is your keeper, it's time to find a different keeper.

That really depends on the specifics.

If I get Chubb I'm definitely looking at Hunt near the end of the draft.

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Was Chubb really that good, with that kind of consistent high end RB1 ability that would keep Hunt on the bench once he’s acclimated? And that indeed might come rather late in the season so the redraft hesitation is fully warranted on that front. However, I think this pair are ideal for one another, their skills compliment one another, and that is the modern NFL.  Not to mention splitting time can help maintain their respective health status for a team with an eye on the playoffs.   All though that late in the year, won’t be as big a factor.

i think Chubb was excellent last year.  But I also think he’s a very good candidate for being part of a 1&2 Punch.  Him being the thunder to Hunts lightning if you like cliches.  That at least for this season; bit of a season.  If they worked well together, I don’t know if the Browns could afford both of them if Hunt plays well so not sure if that situation even possible. But either way ?Hunt is good enough to get on the field, I think that’s obvious.   But he’s not up against Barry Sanders here, all though his thighs mite pretend.  Chubb was great, but Hunt had been better his rookie year and beyond all be it for a different team.

And if Hunt performs well, maybe even moderately so, I can’t see him not getting a starting job somewhere, probably as the main cog.  So sure there is some gamble in keeper/dynasty.  But I think it’s well worth it probably in leagues of 5 keepers or more, but that’s relative.

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2 hours ago, bomont said:

If I get Chubb I'm definitely looking at Hunt near the end of the draft.

Or you could just grab him off waivers in week 7

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13 hours ago, RMJ_12 said:

Or you could just grab him off waivers in week 7

 

If you think he won’t be stashed, you’re crazy. 

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1 minute ago, HarambeLives said:

 

If you think he won’t be stashed, you’re crazy. 

I usually play in competitive leagues

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1 minute ago, RMJ_12 said:

I usually play in competitive leagues

 

Correct; in leagues I’m sure Ingram was stashed for 4 weeks as well. 

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14 hours ago, RMJ_12 said:

Or you could just grab him off waivers in week 7

I don’t think you’ll be able to do that. 8 teamers probably 

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22 minutes ago, HarambeLives said:

 

Correct; in leagues I’m sure Ingram was stashed for 4 weeks as well. 

Ingram was a late 2nd/early 3rd round pick before the suspension based on a guaranteed workload behind the best run-blocking offensive line in the league.  He also wasn't suspended 8 games.

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26 minutes ago, bhawks489 said:

I don’t think you’ll be able to do that. 8 teamers probably 

He isn't even back until week 10 lol

 

Anyone wasting a roster spot in the first 6 weeks on a guy not even guaranteed to touch the ball when he gets back is crazy.

 

Depending on the # of bench spots in your league of course.  Any less than 7 and you're doing yourself a disservice.

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9 minutes ago, RMJ_12 said:

He isn't even back until week 10 lol

 

Anyone wasting a roster spot in the first 6 weeks on a guy not even guaranteed to touch the ball when he gets back is crazy.

 

Depending on the # of bench spots in your league of course.  Any less than 7 and you're doing yourself a disservice.

True, it really depends on the roster breakdown but Hunt is only gone for 8 games. And you know at least one person will either draft and hold or pick him up week 3 or so

 

i see, Browns have a week 9 bye? 

 

Kinda unrelated but do bye weeks count toward a suspension for a player?

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24 minutes ago, bhawks489 said:

Kinda unrelated but do bye weeks count toward a suspension for a player? 

No. He's suspended for 8 games, so he can't play in weeks 1-8. He can't play in week 9 because the Browns have a bye.

If the Browns' bye was week 4, he still couldn't play until week 10, because week 4 doesn't count as one of his suspended games.

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39 minutes ago, bhawks489 said:

i see, Browns have a week 9 bye?

 

Kinda unrelated but do bye weeks count toward a suspension for a player?

They do not.

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Yearly leagues he's waiver wire material because bench spots are valuable... any kind of keeper I can see any argument he has value... dudes 23 and an elite back... as long as he keeps his nose clean he will be back somewhere more than likely starting...if rj2 doesn't work this year I can see him in Tampa next... as a chubb owner in dynasty I made the trade to get him hoping I have a high end cuff in the playoffs and possibly another starter next... not all teams can make this investment or should... but acting like pending him staying the line this time that he won't be back next year as something is silly... Adrian Peterson older came back... josh gordon older countless times has been back... rice if he'd have been any good probably would have been back.. a pro team is taking a chance on hunt... that means he's worth something to them most likely means he's worth something to you... 

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