Ezekiel Elliott 2019 Outlook

[Stonej14 416]

10 hours ago, dmb3684 said:

 

Oh come on. 

 

I hate 2019 so much.

 

Lol for real. Remember when ray lewis killed a guy. Or when steve smith broke 2 of his own teamamtes noses. Now everyone's ready to condemn a guy for a bump. Stuffs crazy now. 

[dashoe 5,756]

15 minutes ago, Stonej14 said:

 

Lol for real. Remember when ray lewis killed a guy. Or when steve smith broke 2 of his own teamamtes noses. Now everyone's ready to condemn a guy for a bump. Stuffs crazy now. 

Ray lewis killed a guy? 👀

[MJJ28 870]

14 minutes ago, dashoe said:

Ray lewis killed a guy? 👀

 

Him and Marvin Harrison.

[Stonej14 416]

10 minutes ago, dashoe said:

Ray lewis killed a guy? 👀

 

That's the nfl rumors.

It was a group fight between Ray and his posse vs a couple others. There were contradictory stories on Ray's involvement  and couldn't prove he was directly involved (only that he was there) but ray did destroy evidence that would connect him to the murders and rat out his buddies who were involved.

Atleast that's how I was to understand it maybe I'm 100% wrong If so sorry for being an idiot lol

[Stonej14 416]

2 minutes ago, MJJ28 said:

 

Him and Marvin Harrison.

Donte stalworth killed a guy too.

[dashoe 5,756]

1 hour ago, MJJ28 said:

 

Him and Marvin Harrison.

 

I find that surprising given that Ray is a devout Christian. and I dont know who Marvin Harrison is so I will need to use my google

[dashoe 5,756]

1 hour ago, Stonej14 said:

 

That's the nfl rumors.

It was a group fight between Ray and his posse vs a couple others. There were contradictory stories on Ray's involvement  and couldn't prove he was directly involved (only that he was there) but ray did destroy evidence that would connect him to the murders and rat out his buddies who were involved.

Atleast that's how I was to understand it maybe I'm 100% wrong If so sorry for being an idiot lol

aah ok he was ia potential suspect with some unanswered questions as to the level of his involvement. I'm going to research it

[Boudewijn 2,758]

1 hour ago, dashoe said:

aah ok he was ia potential suspect with some unanswered questions as to the level of his involvement. I'm going to research it

The Marvin Harrison is the most interesting one, if you put your googling hat on.

Nevertheless, it's not fully relevant to Zeke, who hasn't shot anybody, didn't run over anybody and wasn't present at a stabbing.
Yet.

[ajs723 1,921]

8 hours ago, dashoe said:

 

I find that surprising given that Ray is a devout Christian. and I dont know who Marvin Harrison is so I will need to use my google

What?!

[dashoe 5,756]

11 minutes ago, ajs723 said:

What?!

i started fantasy football in 2011 and  didnt watch much football prior to that except for some playoff games and SB's. 

I also dont watch college football games which could explain why I dont have a fan mentality when it comes to players.

Josh Gordon is the only player I am a fan of. . .😂

[ajs723 1,921]

10 minutes ago, dashoe said:

i started fantasy football in 2011 and  didnt watch much football prior to that except for some playoff games and SB's. 

I also dont watch college football games which could explain why I dont have a fan mentality when it comes to players.

Josh Gordon is the only player I am a fan of. . .😂

Thanks, I feel old now. 

[Boudewijn 2,758]

17 minutes ago, dashoe said:

i started fantasy football in 2011 and  didnt watch much football prior to that except for some playoff games and SB's. 

Between 2003-2006 the Colts had a couple good runs, including Superbowl XLI. During that period, if you saw Peyton Manning (and you must have seen him), he was generally throwing to Marvin Harrison.

[dmb3684 4,430]

12 hours ago, Stonej14 said:

 

That's the nfl rumors.

It was a group fight between Ray and his posse vs a couple others. There were contradictory stories on Ray's involvement  and couldn't prove he was directly involved (only that he was there) but ray did destroy evidence that would connect him to the murders and rat out his buddies who were involved.

Atleast that's how I was to understand it maybe I'm 100% wrong If so sorry for being an idiot lol

 

You are. 

 

But I mean, he def had something to do with the guy getting killed.

 

He has his own statue. 

[dmb3684 4,430]

2 hours ago, dashoe said:

i started fantasy football in 2011 and  didnt watch much football prior to that except for some playoff games and SB's. 

I also dont watch college football games which could explain why I dont have a fan mentality when it comes to players.

Josh Gordon is the only player I am a fan of. . .😂

 

Marvins a HOFer. Odd you havent heard of him. 

[SurlyRobot 201]

A lot of dashoe's posts are starting to make more sense now. Defaulting to "I will believe whatever the player says" is probably not a real wise way to look at these situations.

 

Ray and his fall guys killed 2 guys that night by the way. Baltimore was so proud of him they built a statue for him. Must be a fantastic city!

[Stonej14 416]

1 hour ago, SurlyRobot said:

 

Ray and his fall guys killed 2 guys that night by the way. Baltimore was so proud of him they built a statue for him. Must be a fantastic city!

 

That's the way I always understood the situation. And he "lost" his clothes that he was wearing that had too much DNA "blood" on it to be just a bystander. But once again I'm an idiot and could be wrong. 

Love Baltimore tho. I was there for 2 weeks and I saw a stabbing and some guy broke 3 car windows and a chick filet manager choke slam some hood rat right in the store... good times. 

 

[JSA2422 1,440]

26 minutes ago, Stonej14 said:

 

That's the way I always understood the situation. And he "lost" his clothes that he was wearing that had too much DNA "blood" on it to be just a bystander. But once again I'm an idiot and could be wrong. 

Love Baltimore tho. I was there for 2 weeks and I saw a stabbing and some guy broke 3 car windows and a chick filet manager choke slam some hood rat right in the store... good times. 

 

 

chick-fil-a probably the safest place in the hood of Baltimore lol 

[dmb3684 4,430]

1 hour ago, Stonej14 said:

 

That's the way I always understood the situation. And he "lost" his clothes that he was wearing that had too much DNA "blood" on it to be just a bystander. But once again I'm an idiot and could be wrong. 

Love Baltimore tho. I was there for 2 weeks and I saw a stabbing and some guy broke 3 car windows and a chick filet manager choke slam some hood rat right in the store... good times. 

 

 

I've only been once to the harbor area near Rams Head. Was nice there anyhow. Good food too.

Edited May 22 by dmb3684

[Jags02 138]

On 5/21/2019 at 3:11 PM, dashoe said:

 It was  not a bump, it was battery according to the police who detained him and situations like this shouldnt be discounted for a person who has a documented history of deviant behavior. Policemen dont put handcuffs on a man for a 'bump". . 👀

Now suspension may not be the answer but the  NFL/team should address this with him and implement a policy going forward outlining what action will be taken if he continues to behave in such a manner. Now of course you would have thought the 1st suspension would have been the lesson learned. . 🤣

 

According to a statement from the police, some of their officers were working at the Electric Daisy Carnival festival when they “observed from a distance an adult male, later identified as Elliott, push a security officer to the ground.” Police said that the security guard “who was the victim of the misdemeanor battery, refused to press charges and officers escorted Elliott a short distance away and he was released.”

 

 

I'm going to trust what my own eyes saw on close-up video vs what cops think they saw from a distance. Zeke merely bumped the guy when turning around.

[Jags02 138]

On 5/21/2019 at 4:04 PM, timexsocialclub said:

I meant the assertion that "policemen don't put handcuffs on a man for a 'bump' " is patently false. They handcuff people for much less, but that is peripheral to the central point of whether Zeke will be suspended, so I'll just leave it at that.

 

On the flip side, if it was the kind of battery that might warrant a suspension, the cops likely don't merely bring him to the side and then un-cuff him. 

[1972Miamidolphins 1,076]

3 minutes ago, Jags02 said:

 

On the flip side, if it was the kind of battery that might warrant a suspension, the cops likely don't merely bring him to the side and then un-cuff him. 

Dude, Zeke put that guy thru a gate, conversation over

Edited May 23 by 1972Miamidolphins

[Jags02 138]

4 minutes ago, 1972Miamidolphins said:

Dude, Zeke put that guy thru a gate, conversation over

 

Thru a gate??? Come on!... the gate moved a little as the security guard was off balance.

[Boudewijn 2,758]

 

13 minutes ago, Jags02 said:

Thru a gate??? Come on!... the gate moved a little as the security guard was off balance.

So. There is no question about what happened. Now there are three different questions:

1) was it bad?
2) was it bad enough for legal trouble?
3) was it bad enough for NFL trouble?

For 1 I will not have a discussion. This is not how I treat people, this is not how I tell my kids to treat people, and if you think this is fine on a human level, then we're done.

For 2 we can have a discussion. IANAL, but I suspect that if you do this to a cop you might be in big trouble, and if you do this in Texas you might be in trouble for a very short amount of time.

For 3 we can talk until the cows come home, or rather, until Goodell bangs the gavel. Nobody knows what his exact decision making process is, but "Is it bad publicity" appears to be one of the questions in his flow chart.

[Sack Exchange 804]

30 minutes ago, Jags02 said:

I'm going to trust what my own eyes saw on close-up video vs what cops think they saw from a distance. Zeke merely bumped the guy when turning around.

 

it kinda looked like zeke wanted to give the guy a hug

26 minutes ago, 1972Miamidolphins said:

Dude, Zeke put that guy thru a gate

 

a shame how authorities often misconstrue hugs

[dashoe 5,756]

35 minutes ago, Jags02 said:

 

Thru a gate??? Come on!... the gate moved a little as the security guard was off balance.

Come on dude zeke is about 230lbs  and can probably bench 225 20x, that security guard looks to be about 170lbs wet; it doesnt take much force from zeke to knock him over, considering he backed him into the gate to begin with. 

i wonder how people wo dismiss it as nothing would react if it was them or someone they cared about in that situation.

many think they are chuck norris until reality literally punches them in the face and then they find out they have zero fight in them

Edited May 23 by dashoe