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1 hour ago, meh2 said:

Love Voit this year, but I assume he becomes worthless with a Machado signing?

Why?  If the Yankees get Machado he isn't playing 1B.  He'd play SS until Didi is well than they would see how Anduhar has been doing this year.  Also isn't Didi a FA after this season?

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14 minutes ago, The Big Bat Theory said:

Why?  If the Yankees get Machado he isn't playing 1B.  He'd play SS until Didi is well than they would see how Anduhar has been doing this year.  Also isn't Didi a FA after this season?

If Yanks get Machado they’ll have a lot of choices. I think Andujar would move over to first. Machado, Torres, and Andujar would likely be regulars in the infield. Who knows what Tulo has left but DJ would figure to get close to regular playing time. I just don’t see a ton of at bats left around for Voit. And yes, Didi is a free agent at the end of the season.

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On 2/13/2019 at 8:14 PM, The Big Bat Theory said:

Why?  If the Yankees get Machado he isn't playing 1B.  He'd play SS until Didi is well than they would see how Anduhar has been doing this year.  Also isn't Didi a FA after this season?

The Yankees have stated on multiple occasions that IF they were to get Machado he'd be playing 3rd base. They are for some unfathomable reason completely committed in starting Tulowitsky at SS. 

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42 minutes ago, Dirty Little Birdie said:

The Yankees have stated on multiple occasions that IF they were to get Machado he'd be playing 3rd base. They are for some unfathomable reason completely committed in starting Tulowitsky at SS. 

We don't really know exactly what the Yanks told Tulo. The whole "committed" thing was really started as a rumor and we really have no concrete information on that. I think Tulo and Yanks always wanted a connection and this was Yanks way of throwing him a bone before he retires. Reports said Yanks informed Manny they were signing Tulo as well. 🤷🏼‍♂️

All speculation really but when you think about it, would a $500,000 Tulo really stop Manny from playing SS with the Yanks for the next 5+ years? Probably not. 

This would bode well for Voit because it keeps Andújar at 3B who I've read Yanks have been impressed with his off-season work on defense. 

I'm guessing Gleyber stays at 2B and DJL who they told to "bring a lot of gloves" will be a Marwin Gonzalez type and back up many spots around the infield for A+ depth. 

Voit's the man at 1B and he's hitting 30+ bombs with the Yanks this year. I'm going to will this into existence.

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16 minutes ago, DannyMcPot said:

We don't really know exactly what the Yanks told Tulo. The whole "committed" thing was really started as a rumor and we really have no concrete information on that. I think Tulo and Yanks always wanted a connection and this was Yanks way of throwing him a bone before he retires. Reports said Yanks informed Manny they were signing Tulo as well. 🤷🏼‍♂️

All speculation really but when you think about it, would a $500,000 Tulo really stop Manny from playing SS with the Yanks for the next 5+ years? Probably not. 

This would bode well for Voit because it keeps Andújar at 3B who I've read Yanks have been impressed with his off-season work on defense. 

I'm guessing Gleyber stays at 2B and DJL who they told to "bring a lot of gloves" will be a Marwin Gonzalez type and back up many spots around the infield for A+ depth. 

Voit's the man at 1B and he's hitting 30+ bombs with the Yanks this year. I'm going to will this into existence.

Well you forgot about Didi, who is injured for half a season sure, but is a very important part of that team. I feel like they will re-sign him.

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So if Greg Birds rakes this spring are all you Voiters confident the Yanks don't give Bird the starting job at 1st? The Yanks still love Bird and that lefty bat, lefty swing in that short porch playing great defense. I have heard on local radio stations that if Bird does rake and outperforms Voit this spring he will get the job. 

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4 minutes ago, chud12 said:

So if Greg Birds rakes this spring are all you Voiters confident the Yanks don't give Bird the starting job at 1st? The Yanks still love Bird and that lefty bat, lefty swing in that short porch playing great defense. I have heard on local radio stations that if Bird does rake and outperforms Voit this spring he will get the job. 

I mean sure, if Voit stinks and Bird is the word in Spring, this might change. It's certainly a risk. I think if Voit was locked into 550 PAs, he'd be going higher in drafts.  This is no sure thing here, and I've been burned by plenty of 1b before, including Bird. 

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11 minutes ago, brockpapersizer said:

I mean sure, if Voit stinks and Bird is the word in Spring, this might change. It's certainly a risk. I think if Voit was locked into 550 PAs, he'd be going higher in drafts.  This is no sure thing here, and I've been burned by plenty of 1b before, including Bird. 

 

If Bird has the same spring training he had last season, Voit will be starting the year in the minors. 

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8 minutes ago, chud12 said:

 

If Bird has the same spring training he had last season, Voit will be starting the year in the minors. 

I just don't see how a guy with the 4th best DRC+ last year starts in the minors.

You're also mixing up Spring Trainings. Bird's OPS in 2019 Spring was sub 500. You're thinking of 2017.

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Just now, brockpapersizer said:

I just don't see how a guy with the 4th best DRC+ last year starts in the minors.

You're also mixing up Spring Trainings. Bird's OPS in 2019 Spring was sub 500. You're thinking of 2017.

 

I am, thanks for the correction. I still think the Yanks want to give every chance to Bird and see him succeed. Maybe I'm wrong but that is how I feel. 

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53 minutes ago, brockpapersizer said:

Well you forgot about Didi, who is injured for half a season sure, but is a very important part of that team. I feel like they will re-sign him.

I can't see them resigning Didi who yes, is a fan/clubhouse favorite, great defense, etc. but is coming off surgery and will be 29 years old in a few days. Can't see Yanks committing years past that when analytics tells them it's not smart. Gut feeling is that Manny is coming. 

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4 hours ago, DannyMcPot said:

I can't see them resigning Didi who yes, is a fan/clubhouse favorite, great defense, etc. but is coming off surgery and will be 29 years old in a few days. Can't see Yanks committing years past that when analytics tells them it's not smart. Gut feeling is that Manny is coming. 

 

29 isnt old,  still has a lot of good years left in him.  Every team is using analytics, someone is going to sign him. My bet is the team who already has him as a fan favorite and some say is the heart of the team, is the most likely team to sign him. I dont think someone is going to steal him away for a ton of money.

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15 minutes ago, brockpapersizer said:

 

29 isnt old,  still has a lot of good years left in him.  Every team is using analytics, someone is going to sign him. My bet is the team who already has him as a fan favorite and some say is the heart of the team, is the most likely team to sign him. I dont think someone is going to steal him away for a ton of money.

Plus he's one of the only lefties in the lineup. All good points and I wouldn't be surprised at all if they extended him. Again, just my gut feeling that they don't. 

Let's say he comes back mid-season and isn't quite the same player after injury which is more likely the scenario than not in my opinion. They'd have to sign him for multi-year deal hoping he returns to form at age 30.

If they don't Gleyber likely moves to SS with DJL moving to 2B full time in 2020. Manny signing changes this so idk we'll see soon enough. Tough situation to gauge at the moment. 

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7 hours ago, chud12 said:

I am, thanks for the correction. I still think the Yanks want to give every chance to Bird and see him succeed. Maybe I'm wrong but that is how I feel. 

And why wouldn't they want to give every chance to Luke Voit who HAS succeed immediately in pinstripes instead of Bird who fails time and time again.  Voit is their guy too.

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They have both guys under contract for at least three more years, more for Voit. They are trying to win games above all so I think they're just going to play whoever they think is currently a better hitter. It was very clearly Voit last year, by a couple miles. That could change but he has a big leg up imo. 

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6 minutes ago, brockpapersizer said:

They have both guys under contract for at least three more years, more for Voit. They are trying to win games above all so I think they're just going to play whoever they think is currently a better hitter. It was very clearly Voit last year, by a couple miles. That could change but he has a big leg up imo. 

Yes I also would think that Voit is the early favorite. Of course, we need to see how S.T. plays out.

I just don't trust Bird, and rightly so.

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Luke Voit will be the Greg Bird we thought we were going to get last year and at a better value.

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I’m not worried about Bird unless Voit struggles. 

Voit played well last Year and Boone seemed impressed so I think the starting job is his to lose unless some  roster changes are made (Machado). 

Voit has never really been given an opportunity to start in the majors before last year. He will likely regress in the BA department but he has power. 

I posted this 6 or so months ago on the 2018 outlook thread.

 

Ive been reading up on him and I came across this article.

https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2018/7/30/17626544/new-york-yankees-cardinals-luke-voit-aaa-first-baseman-chasen-shreve-exit-velocity’s 

 

out of 466 hitters with at least 50 batted balls Luke Voit was 11th on Exit Velocity with (91.3).

Behind Judge (94.9) , Cruz (93.2) , Gallo (93.1), Sano (92.3) , Khris Davis (92.2) , Stanton (91.9), Yandy Diaz (91.5) , Ryan Zimmerman (91.4) , Goldy (91.4) and Tomas (91.3).

 

he’s ahead of guys like machado, JD Mart, Hoskins, Olsen, Gary Sanchez.

 

Voit’s sample size is small compared to others on the list but it’s interesting nonetheless. There are some big time Homerun hitters on that list. 

 

He’s been considered a Quad A player but he’s not alone. Guys like JD Mart and Aguilar busted onto the scene late in their careers. I’m not saying he will be those guys but some do breakout late. JD Mart didn’t eclipse 20 homers until he was 26 years old (including minors). 

 

In 2017 with the Cardinals he only had one stretch where he played more than 3 games in a row. That stretch was 7 games and he hit 3 homers during that span. He started to fall apart when he was only playing twice a week. 

 

In the past his K rate was always around 17%-20% in the minors but it was 25% in 2017 with the cardinals and 29% this year. He has always had a solid walk rate that hovers around 9.5% (almost 10% this year). 

 

I’m not sure if he will be good or not but he is interesting. I like the Exit Velocity stat although it was a small sample size. Solid walk rate and some power. He hit very well when he got the chance to play everyday with the Cardinals in 2017. He must have been filling in because of an injury. He had that nice 7 game stretch (homered in his last game) and then he hit the pine. It wasn’t like he hit homers in the first 3 games and then went 0-4 in the next 4 games. 

 

He’s created an opportunity for himself late in the season. I’m taking a shot to see if he can make the best of it. As someone said, there isn’t much competition for PT at first right now. 

Boone said in recent interviews that he has been really impressed with his AB’s. 

 
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At what point do the Yankees become sick of being teased by Bird?  Unless Bird destroys it in ST and Voit stinks Voit should hold the gig.  

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Sweeny Murti, the Yankees beat writer, today said he thinks whoever comes in second in the Voit/Bird spring training first base competition will not be on the roster.

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7 hours ago, My Dinner With Andre said:

Sweeny Murti, the Yankees beat writer, today said he thinks whoever comes in second in the Voit/Bird spring training first base competition will not be on the roster.

 

Michael Kay said the same thing last week.  It’s an open comp. for the position in spring training. 

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Why would they keep both on the 25 man? Its redundant and i'm assuming they still want to rotate Judge/Stanton into DH often. Glove work earns you bench roles more than bat work. Both have option years last i checked. One starts, one gets everyday PAs in AAA. That shouldn't be a surprise. They still haven't 100 given up on Bird so they don't want to close his door. Even though Voit should have the edge.

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Another bullet dodged for Voit with Machado going to the Padres.  Path to regular at-bats starting to look that much better.

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On 2/18/2019 at 8:00 AM, Slatykamora said:

Why would they keep both on the 25 man? Its redundant and i'm assuming they still want to rotate Judge/Stanton into DH often. Glove work earns you bench roles more than bat work. Both have option years last i checked. One starts, one gets everyday PAs in AAA. That shouldn't be a surprise. They still haven't 100 given up on Bird so they don't want to close his door. Even though Voit should have the edge.

 

i think they were talking about the 40 man.  not sure tho

 

who ever loses will be in triple a

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Is porn allowed on here? 😍

Flashing the leather as well. He wants that job. Rumblings are whoever looks worse in spring training may be traded. Boone has said he doesn't think a platoon at 1B would work. 

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