Ads7633 16 Posted October 2 Okay. So, just won my league and have a great team, but now I have to decide who to keep for next year. I only get 5. A few things to note: Points league= I could care less about steals or batting average and starting pitching is extra valuable Quality Starts are worth a lot more than wins In this league nobody ever has enough SP's so they get pushed up considerably on draft day. If you don't keep an ace or two, it's really hard to catch up in pitching. Here are my possible keepers, with the round they would have to be kept in. (note: If they were kept last year they just slot into your first available round- so if you keep 5 previous year guys you don't pick until the 6th round.) Hitters: Yelich (Previous Keeper) Bellinger (4th) Jose Ramirez (1st) Harper (Previous Keeper) -better in points leagues Realmuto (Previous Keeper) -Really tempted to keep him, he was the #25 overall hitter and is a huge value over other catchers Suarez (5th) Carlos Santana (7th)- incredible in points, finished as the #15 hitter Encarnacion (14th) Aquino (25th) Pitchers: Kershaw (Previous Keeper) Corbin (Previous Keeper) Castillo (6th) Syndergaard (Previous Keeper) Woodruff (14th) Minor (25th) My initial thoughts are 1. ) Yelich 2.) Bellinger 3.) Ramirez 4.) Castillo 5.) Corbin. But it really hurts leaving off Harper, J.T., Kershaw, and Woodruff. Also, I just know this will be the year Thor turns the corner if I don't keep him... Also, I can always try to trade some of these guys for draft picks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
secretagentman 299 Posted October 2 I probably would go Bellinger, Yellich, J. Ramirez, Suarez and Castillo\Corbin\Kershaw (depending on your preference). No way I keep 2 pitchers. You can make a case for Harper over Suarez, but kind of tired of Harper's act and 35 Hrs is not what it used to be with the juiced ball this year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ads7633 16 Posted October 2 1 hour ago, secretagentman said: I probably would go Bellinger, Yellich, J. Ramirez, Suarez and Castillo\Corbin\Kershaw (depending on your preference). No way I keep 2 pitchers. You can make a case for Harper over Suarez, but kind of tired of Harper's act and 35 Hrs is not what it used to be with the juiced ball this year. I mean it is a points league so number of home runs isn't everything. Harper was still the #18 batter and outscored Suarez 530 to 460. On the pitchers, my reason for keeping two is that a Kershaw/Corbin/Castillo type pitcher is a whole lot harder to replace than a Harper/Suarez type hitter (at least in this league). I mean I got Suarez for next to nothing from a 11th place team, but a pitcher like Kershaw would cost me significant capital, and surely will not be around for me to draft by the time I get picks in the 5th or 6th round of our drafts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
exm 244 Posted October 3 10 hours ago, Ads7633 said: Okay. So, just won my league and have a great team, but now I have to decide who to keep for next year. I only get 5. A few things to note: Points league= I could care less about steals or batting average and starting pitching is extra valuable Quality Starts are worth a lot more than wins In this league nobody ever has enough SP's so they get pushed up considerably on draft day. If you don't keep an ace or two, it's really hard to catch up in pitching. Here are my possible keepers, with the round they would have to be kept in. (note: If they were kept last year they just slot into your first available round- so if you keep 5 previous year guys you don't pick until the 6th round.) Hitters: Yelich (Previous Keeper) Bellinger (4th) Jose Ramirez (1st) Harper (Previous Keeper) -better in points leagues Realmuto (Previous Keeper) -Really tempted to keep him, he was the #25 overall hitter and is a huge value over other catchers Suarez (5th) Carlos Santana (7th)- incredible in points, finished as the #15 hitter Encarnacion (14th) Aquino (25th) Pitchers: Kershaw (Previous Keeper) Corbin (Previous Keeper) Castillo (6th) Syndergaard (Previous Keeper) Woodruff (14th) Minor (25th) My initial thoughts are 1. ) Yelich 2.) Bellinger 3.) Ramirez 4.) Castillo 5.) Corbin. But it really hurts leaving off Harper, J.T., Kershaw, and Woodruff. Also, I just know this will be the year Thor turns the corner if I don't keep him... Also, I can always try to trade some of these guys for draft picks. Thanks for helping me. No-brainers: Yelich (Previous Keeper) Bellinger (4th) Corbin (Previous Keeper) No based on your league settings I would add: Castillo (6th) Then add one of: Kershaw (Previous Keeper) Syndergaard (Previous Keeper) Woodruff (14th) Minor (25th) Not sold on J-Ram, especially as a 1st pick. With settings like yours (I'm in a similar league) I would go definitely go with 3 pitchers. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brockpapersizer 10,292 Posted October 3 Kersh-Castill-Corbin-Bellinger-Yelich 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSkibisky 580 Posted October 3 I think some are discounting the year Harper had.. quietly. I would go Yelich Bellinger Harper Joram Suarez. Not keeping Castillo or Corbin is tough, but if it were me I would build the hitting base, then draft the arms. .02 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charger_ss24 13 Posted October 3 10 hours ago, brockpapersizer said: Kersh-Castill-Corbin-Bellinger-Yelich 👆🏻This right here.👆🏻 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brockpapersizer 10,292 Posted October 3 44 minutes ago, MSkibisky said: I think some are discounting the year Harper had.. quietly. I would go Yelich Bellinger Harper Joram Suarez. Not keeping Castillo or Corbin is tough, but if it were me I would build the hitting base, then draft the arms. .02 He said it was a points league where pitching is super valuable. Screams to me that you can't cut Corbin/Castillo. In a standard league I'd agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ads7633 16 Posted October 3 12 hours ago, exm said: Thanks for helping me. No-brainers: Yelich (Previous Keeper) Bellinger (4th) Corbin (Previous Keeper) No based on your league settings I would add: Castillo (6th) Then add one of: Kershaw (Previous Keeper) Syndergaard (Previous Keeper) Woodruff (14th) Minor (25th) Not sold on J-Ram, especially as a 1st pick. With settings like yours (I'm in a similar league) I would go definitely go with 3 pitchers. Yeah, keeping 3 ace-like pitchers going into this year really helped me this year. The problem with not keeping Jo-Ram is that even though he would be slotted in my first round, If I don't keep him then one of my other previous keepers would slot there instead. So, keeping him really costs the same as keeping any of Kershaw, Corbin, or Syndergaard. I guess the question is "with all things the same would I rather have Jo-Ram or one of those guys?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSkibisky 580 Posted October 3 14 minutes ago, brockpapersizer said: He said it was a points league where pitching is super valuable. Screams to me that you can't cut Corbin/Castillo. In a standard league I'd agree. ah, missed that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brockpapersizer 10,292 Posted October 3 A lot of Jo Ram's value is tied to steals, which as you mentioned isn't worth as much when scarcity isn't an issue. Honestly besides the 5 I mentioned, Woodruff is interesting just to have a good pitcher and get the extra pick. Still, I think Id go with the 5 I mentioned, but something to consider. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ads7633 16 Posted October 3 13 minutes ago, brockpapersizer said: He said it was a points league where pitching is super valuable. Screams to me that you can't cut Corbin/Castillo. In a standard league I'd agree. Exactly. The league dynamic is weird. My first year in this league I didn't take a pitcher until round 14 because the pitchers were all going so far ahead of their ranking I couldn't bear to jump that early. Well, that failed in epic proportions. Since then I've realized in this type of setting bats are much easier to come by. Still, some bats (Yelich, Bellinger, etc.) stand out enough where you can't replace them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ads7633 16 Posted October 3 Just now, brockpapersizer said: A lot of Jo Ram's value is tied to steals, which as you mentioned isn't worth as much when scarcity isn't an issue. Honestly besides the 5 I mentioned, Woodruff is interesting just to have a good pitcher and get the extra pick. Still, I think Id go with the 5 I mentioned, but something to consider. True, but honestly his plate discipline plays up in points leagues to the point where when he is "good" Jose Ramirez he is still one of the top 5 point producers in the league. And yes, I am really tempted by Woodruff. I think he has top 20 SP talent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ads7633 16 Posted October 3 1 hour ago, MSkibisky said: I think some are discounting the year Harper had.. quietly. I would go Yelich Bellinger Harper Joram Suarez. Not keeping Castillo or Corbin is tough, but if it were me I would build the hitting base, then draft the arms. .02 I do agree with your Harper thoughts. And he is better in points. Even in down years #18 this year and #8 last year. Plus, he may play better in year number 2 in the new venue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoarOf84 4 Posted October 3 Thanks for the help on mine. I'd go Yelich, Bellinger, Kershaw, Corbin, and Woodruff. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UberRebel 383 Posted October 8 MUST HAVE IN ORDER Yelich Bellinger Castillo Corbin Kershaw (if you're in win now mode) OR Woodruff (if you're also trying to be mindful of the future; he's the real deal but Castillo/Corbin/Belly/Yelich are all young anyway so no real need) With 6 keepers in at most a 12 team league, there should be enough solid players that are too old to keep that will be close enough to match Jose Ramirez Help with mine? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSkibisky 580 Posted October 9 I think the 5 you mentioned is what I would lean towards in a points league. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nittanychris 130 Posted October 10 I like the 5 you picked. My only quibble is that Jose Ramirez is so volatile, that for a 1st round pick, I might not keep him. I might go Realmuto instead. Good luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSkibisky 580 Posted October 11 15 hours ago, nittanychris said: I like the 5 you picked. My only quibble is that Jose Ramirez is so volatile, that for a 1st round pick, I might not keep him. I might go Realmuto instead. Good luck. he was showing (before his injury, which he came back from and picked back up RAKING) that he figured it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheTruth024 312 Posted October 23 1. Yelich - No explanation necessary 2. Bellinger - Same as above 3. Castillo - budding Ace who will be top 20 SP for quite a while 4. Corbin - Solid SP who is a need for this type of league 5. Harper - Still the "18th best hitter" despite the down year. Consider that his floor for 2020. Still only 27 years old 6. If there was someone to maybe replace Harper, it would be Woodruff. However with how the Brewers handle their starters (no letting them pitch really deep into games), I dont think the upside translates to a points league. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
