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Toronto Blue Jays 2013 Outlook


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#1 Blood Brother

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 03:16 AM

Well well well, looks like the Jays have been pretty busy so far this offseason. Wow!

New projected lineup

Jose Reyes, SS
Emilio Bonifacio, 2B
Jose Bautista, RF
Edwin Encarnacion, 1B
Brett Lawrie, 3B
Melky Cabrera, LF
Colby Rasmus, CF
Adam Lind/Rajai Davis, DH
Arencibia/John Buck, C

Rotation

Josh Johnson
Brandon Morrow
Mark Buehrle
Ricky Romero
???

With the Yankees looking older an older, not to mention the fact they want to get under the luxury tax, you gotta think the Jays are seeing the East as being pretty vulnerable and up for the taking

Thoughts on what they have done so far? Do you consider them the favorites for the East? That lineup is looking pretty damn good

Edited by RotoRaysfan, 18 November 2012 - 10:03 PM.


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Posted 17 November 2012 - 11:35 AM

ESPN's Buster Olney reports the Blue Jays are "close" to naming their next manager.

According to Olney, two of the final names being discussed are Jim Tracy and Jim Riggleman. If true, this would fit the Jays' reported desire to hire a manager with a track record, as both have previous major league experience. The Rockies parted ways with Tracy this offseason after a franchise-worst 64 wins in 2012. Riggleman spent last year managing the Reds' Double-A affiliate.

Don't say it's true! Don't make every baseball fan lose their minds over Tracy's lineups again next year!

Edited by baltimore_boy, 17 November 2012 - 11:35 AM.

Bring back Ray!

#3 Suikoden

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 12:51 PM

This is the first time in over a decade where I have got goosebumps over the Jays...when I saw the trade...and then MELKY being signed....how can you not be excited as a Jays fan?

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:57 PM

Only tracy could derail this dream of a lineup. Say it aint so
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Posted 17 November 2012 - 03:10 PM

I think Melky or Lawrie would bat second, not Bonifacio.

The lineup looks sick. If they stay healthy they can contend. But alas weve seen teams have huge overhauls and still not make the playoffs. Id stll give the edge to the Yankees or Rays over them.... for now.

Also With Arencbia, Buck, and D'arnaud in the minors... I feel like they are far from finished making moves.

Edited by brockpapersizer, 17 November 2012 - 03:10 PM.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 03:55 PM

Bona isn't guaranteed IMO at 2B. I think him and Izturis will be competing for that job.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 07:38 PM

As an Angels fan, I'll say this right now. Izturis is not a starter. That dude can never hold up over a full year. Keep him as he is, the backup 2B/SS/3B. Nice MIFer back-up

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 07:56 PM

Real excited to see the Jays going for it. This is a huge offseason, HUGE!

I'm real curious who the new manager will be. I have to laugh a bit now at John Farrell who quit on the team to leave for his "dream job" in Boston. Good luck rebuilding for a few seasons minimum there John. Meanwhile the Blue Jays are going for it. I love it. Suck it Farrell.

And any concerns about the amount of money they are spending, and criticism of that.....well, it's not your money they are spending. Why care about that?

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 07:59 PM

Rotation

Josh Johnson
Brandon Morrow
Mark Buehrle
Ricky Romero
???


Pretty good chance Happ locks down the 5th spot. That's what I've seen supposed at this early stage anyway. Assuming guys can stay healthy (a big problem last season) and Ricky Romero bounces back from a horrible dreadful season, that's a pretty damn decent starting rotation, IMO.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 06:57 AM

Talks of Jim Tracy being the new coach..you know..of the last place Rockies :|

lol

#11 Suikoden

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:02 AM

then again 09 NL manager of the year...

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:21 AM

Jim Tracy, Manny Acta, Jim Riggleman, Mike Hargrove the finalists for the manager job? What is the top priority in there search? Having multiple failing stints in the last decade? Good god, those are like the worst retreads you could pursue.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:31 AM

Looks like John Gibbons has been hired as manager.... again.

This Jays fan likes the move.

Edited by HellsBells, 20 November 2012 - 02:32 AM.


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:21 AM

As long as its not Tracy they should have a shot. How in the hell did that guy even get an interview. Good lord.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:53 AM

The Blue Jays haven't made the playoffs in 20 years. They look solid on paper, but the 162 game schedule tends to play mind games with teams that look great on paper. I'd be surprised if the live up to the lofty expectations that have been placed on them.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:34 AM

Gibbons...out of all the coaches, Gibbons. One step forward, two steps back...

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:01 PM

Who else thinks the Jays are going to be similar to the Marlins of last year? Lots of talent that won't go together. If that does happen though, I doubt they sell out quickly like the Marlins. Remember last year when every MLB sports writer was basically pencilling the Marlins into the playoffs and some to the World Series? I just feel like the Jays could fall the same way if they get too much publicity and attention that they aren't used to.
Bring back Ray!

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:15 PM

Just wait until the next Sports Illustrated comes out. Going to be a smorgasbord of analysis on why the Marlins are done and why the Blue Jays are going to win. I am a Blue Jays fan and I firmly believe we are a 3rd place team. I just can't believe it until I see it is all. Now we will still be the best 3rd place team ever and I am very excited (hopefully to be proven wrong), but this is still the toughest division ever. The Yankees aren't going anywhere and whoever says they are are seriously misguided. The Rays might take a step back but they will still be one of the toughest teams to play because they are in every game until the end. The Orioles should drop down to reality but people were saying that all last season. Although how many times can Ryan Flaherty win the game for you in extra innings? And then we have the Red Sox... I don't know what to think with them. They are still a great organization even though they dumped a bunch of salary. I think getting rid of Bobby V is a HUGE upgrade. I am a believer but it is just damn hard to think that anything can change that division so dramatically.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:26 PM

Gibbons...out of all the coaches, Gibbons. One step forward, two steps back...

It's a better hire than Tracy or Riggleman. A step forward, none back.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:29 PM

Just wait until the next Sports Illustrated comes out. Going to be a smorgasbord of analysis on why the Marlins are done and why the Blue Jays are going to win. I am a Blue Jays fan and I firmly believe we are a 3rd place team. I just can't believe it until I see it is all. Now we will still be the best 3rd place team ever and I am very excited (hopefully to be proven wrong), but this is still the toughest division ever. The Yankees aren't going anywhere and whoever says they are are seriously misguided. The Rays might take a step back but they will still be one of the toughest teams to play because they are in every game until the end. The Orioles should drop down to reality but people were saying that all last season. Although how many times can Ryan Flaherty win the game for you in extra innings? And then we have the Red Sox... I don't know what to think with them. They are still a great organization even though they dumped a bunch of salary. I think getting rid of Bobby V is a HUGE upgrade. I am a believer but it is just damn hard to think that anything can change that division so dramatically.


I think the opportunity is there for the Jays to win the division. Yeah, it's December and we're talking baseball, but it's impossible to ignore what the Jays have done in the last week or so. That lineup is stacked. If they can remain healthy, they have a shot.
Yanks are and will always be dangerous. They are the biggest opposition obviously. The Rays are always interesting, but I want to see what they do with their roster before spring training before thinking they'll be in the mix like Toronto and NY. Baltimore had a great 2012 but they'll come back down to earth. The Red Sox have the most work to do and I have them firmly in the basement.