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  1. 19 hours ago, OaksterDan said:

    NBA? That's true. Thought we were talking about tennis. Different playing surfaces. Plenty of people play sports, including tennis, without towels and don't get injured. I just don't see "towels" as being the logistical problem that prevents tennis from happening. Players can towel off what they need to towel off, and throw the towel in a bucket of bleach post-match. There are far more realistic logistical problems in resuming pro tennis than the towels.


    The logic of running and changing directions quickly on a slick surface are still very much applicable here.  I wasn't trying to say it's deal breaker or there weren't ways to deal with it.  I just thought it was pretty trite to ask for statistical evidence to support that running on slick surfaces could be dangerous.  

  2. 4 minutes ago, shakestreet said:

    That plan was stupid. I also cannot understand why it was even brought to the table and anybody thought it was going to happen. 


    Something along those lines are likely to happen.  Forget ticket sales.  The MLB is going to lose TV money as well as fans.  Baseball was dying after the strike in 1994.  Steroids actually were what saved the game which was why it was hard for upper management to really speak out against it until years later.  So yeah get ready for empty stadium games at one of if not both of the spring training sites.


  3. 5 minutes ago, JE7HorseGod said:

    Hard to imagine that the players don't have a lot of leverage in this type of scenario.

    The owners want them to play, and there will be a lot of public sympathy for the players risking it, if they do decide they want to.

    But I do tend to side with the players in labor disputes, so I'm probably biased.


    Me too.... Anyone or any group with money can pretty much be an owner.  Not everyone can play major league baseball and most that can are lucky if they even get a 10 year window.  The league should stop catering to the owners.  The MLB should be leveraging the owners on behalf of the players.  The NBA took the Clippers from Donald Sterrling.  Just pose a if you want to make the kind of money MLB owners make you adhere to our rules.  Not the other way around.  Hell most of the stadiums are tax payer funded anyway so screw the owners.

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  4. 1 minute ago, JE7HorseGod said:

    Right now it sounds like Cuomo speculating based on a conversation with Wilpon.

    But I wouldn't say it would be the first time we've heard owners take a hard line with players.


    Indeed... It's just sad that they get to keep winning the way that they do.  The draft is already being cut to 5-10 rounds.  Crushing hundreds of players dreams.  And for what?  To save the 5-25K you're going to pay to sign those kids?  The draft cut alone is nothing short of a national tragedy.  Back in the 90s teams could pick as many players as they wanted I remember the Yankees drafted 100 players one year. 

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  5. 3 minutes ago, JE7HorseGod said:

    It sounds like there is another potential issue that needs to be resolved aside from the most pressing public health and logistical issues, that being compensation for players for games played in empty stadiums.  From today's Rosenthal article in The Athletic:

    The league has yet to make a proposal to the players’ union on the subject, but New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, in a CNN appearance Wednesday night, referenced potential salary cuts while discussing a conversation he had earlier in the day with Mets COO Jeff Wilpon.

    “Apparently, Major League Baseball would have to make a deal with the players because if you have no one in the stands then the numbers are going to change, right? The economics are going to change,” Cuomo said.

    Some on the players’ side, however, say the issue is already settled, pointing to the 17-page agreement the league and the union reached in March. The document created a framework for the sport during the shutdown, and includes a subhead titled, “Player Compensation and Benefits.”

    A separate section of the deal, listing the conditions for games to resume, says the commissioner’s office and the union “will discuss in good faith the economic feasibility of playing games in the absence of spectators or at appropriate substitute neutral sites.” Similar phrasing exists in other parts of the agreement as well.

    One person with knowledge of the deal said the clause was not intended to signal any willingness by the players to reopen salary discussions. Others said the issue was left undecided, and that the league made it clear to the union that economic adjustments would be necessary if games were played in empty parks.


    This is utter BS to me.  Now owners get to weasel out of money they owe?  Why?  Because they aren't making as much money?  What happened to risk?  Why is it that these people get to claim they make as much money as they do because of the risks they take but every time risk comes around they cash in on the workers?  This goes far beyond just baseball as well.  

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  6. 1 minute ago, The Big Bat Theory said:

    The Arizona/Florida plan was already officially scraped.  They said all in on Bubbletown Arizona or bust.  That was their only plan at this point.  And if you read directly above you will see that crazy scheme isn't getting off the ground all too well.


    Where was there any official statement on this?  As far as I've seen it's been "we don't really know we are working through ideas".  I've yet to see Tony Clark or any MLB official come out and say it is one way or another. 


    Also to your post before this one neither Trout and Kershaw said they wouldn't do it.  They both just reasonably expressed warranted skepticism.  I watched the interviews the head lines were blowing it way out of proportion to try to create the drama and click bait they need. 

  7. On 4/15/2020 at 4:06 AM, TennisDude said:


    Please don't say that. I'm going to perform seppuku on myself if we cannot have sports until Fall of 2021.


    Don't worry it is highly unlikely the 2020 baseball season gets canceled.  There have already been extensive talks about playing in empty Arizona.  They've also been talking about scrapping AL / NL for this year and just doing Grapefruit and Cactus Leagues so everyone plays out of their spring training facilities.


    I also read the other day that Florida already declared The WWE an essential service (yeah pretty crazy but it's a good sign for baseball in 2020).  So Florida is already gearing to get going again.  So I'm sure the state government would welcome and accommodate the Grapefruit League games as soon as possible.

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  8. On 4/5/2020 at 8:56 AM, chucky said:

    The biggest changes to Cease’s delivery, repertoire? One word, Yasmani Grandal <sic>! Generally regarded as one of if not thee best framer in the business. If he can steal a strike every now and again, as opposed to James McCann, we could be looking at another Giolitto breakout. 


    They may test run robot strike zone if they have to start the season in empty spring training facilities.

  9. 1 hour ago, daynlokki said:

    CDC just stated today that they are most likely under reporting deaths as people are dying at home without being tested. The only way for a death to count for covid in the USA is if there is a positive test for covid.  No presumptive positives count towards the total deaths. 


    Are test kits so scarce they aren't testing the dead bodies?  You'd think they'd eventually get counted into the stats.

  10. 10 minutes ago, jonninho said:

    At what point of the day do these numbers on 'worldometers' get finalized? I am assuming it is by State depending on their respective time zone?

    Looking at a lot of the numbers of some individual states, There seems to be positives happening.. although i realize untill it happens for days and days and days consecutively, it doesnt mean all that much just yet.


    From what I've seen and I check worldmeters at least a few times a day seems that states do a daily reporting.  I have seen NY do updates throughout the day but the last couple of days its seemed to be a 1 day reporting.  All the states vary to when they report while it seems the east coast reports sooner a lot of times NY and CA are both 2 of the first states to report.

  11. 1 hour ago, The Big Bat Theory said:

    Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports that the Major League Baseball owners have voted unanimously to ratify the deal with the Players Association.

    The agreement was first reported Thursday after being approved by the players and now it's official after the owners gave it the go-ahead. Jeff Passan of ESPN writes that the players and league agreed that the 2020 season won't start until "there are no bans on mass gatherings that limit the ability to play in front of fans, there are no travel restrictions and medical experts determine games will not pose a risk to health of teams and fans." Passan does add that the two sides "will consider the feasibility of playing in empty stadiums" and also at neutral sites. The players will be advanced $170 million for the months of April and May and the money can be kept if the season is canceled, service time will be pro-rated and the international signing period can be pushed back from July to January. Additionally, the Draft has been shortened to five rounds and picks will only receive $100,000 of their bonuses in 2020.

    Source: Joel Sherman on Twitter                     Mar 27, 2020, 12:31 PM ET



    All of this is final?  The players are getting screwed so hard...

  12. 1 hour ago, 2ndCitySox said:

    I've read 1% is more likely (but we will see). The bigger concern with covid is just how contagious it can be, and how long it can last away from a person (meaning on a surface like metal, plastic, suspended in air), hence some of the drastic actions that have been suggested or enforced to minimize the spread. Season flu % also accounts for hospitals being able to handle the load. That is not the case in some of the major hotspots like NYC (and likely more places to follow).



    The mortality rate in America has been rising despite testing being more available.  It was in the 1.1% - 1.4% range for days.  When I checked this morning it was at 1.9% now it is up to 1.98%.  Globally the death rate is at 4.9% (albeit missing many asymptomatic / mild symptom) the overall global death rate has been trending higher while testing has been greatly increasing.  For over a week straight was in bouncing around between 3.0% - 3.5% and it's just steadily rose from there.


    This trend could get quite a bit worse once hospitals start hitting and exceeding capacity.  We have to see how dedicated everyone continues to be with social distancing.  As well as we have to see how creative cities and states get with testing and make shift hospitalization.  Drugs to treat it will also help get people out of the hospital depending on how efficient they are.  But the main problem I hear doctors fear is that we could eventually run out of ventilators. 


    Also here's where I pull my numbers from.  Seems to be the most accurate I've found.  Has state by state breakdowns on it too.  As well as all the other countries.

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  13. 4 hours ago, tonycpsu said:

    The "greater chance of dying in a car accident" thing gets thrown around a lot as kind of a thought-terminating cliche, but it doesn't survive even the smallest amount of scrutiny.  The only reason we tolerate the relatively high risk of dying in a car accident is because we're going somewhere we want/need to go.  Work, home, a ballgame, whatever.  Those things keep us alive or give us a reason to live.


    That and if you don't drink or drive late at night your chances of dying in a car accident are astronomically smaller than the overall whole statistic of % of people who die in car accidents.


    Also when operating a vehicle you have some sense of control to somewhat maneuver your own fate.  The only thing you can control about catching covid is to isolate and execute good hygiene after the times you had to leave the house.  Otherwise you're just a percent chance floating around out there.

  14. On 3/25/2020 at 12:07 PM, Sidearmer said:


    Sounds like MLB will soon be announcing more concrete plans. If Mish is correct, and weekly double headers become a thing, this can drastically effect a lot of teams. Would almost necessitate a 6 man rotation.


    If they're going to cut the rounds than I would think players association should argue signing bonuses should be increased drastically.

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  15. On 3/29/2020 at 6:48 PM, pbjfb said:

    Are we still expecting a call up in 2020 if they play?


    Are we still so sure he's better than Skubal?  Prospect rankings clearly say so but personally I wouldn't trade my Skubal straight up for Mize just based on the upside end of the two players.

  16. On 3/28/2020 at 12:18 PM, bigbossman said:

    How would you rank these prospects for fantasy purposes in a dynasty league:




    LRod (dodgers)

    Heriberto Hernandez



    Paredes is by far the best on this list.  I know there's a lot of shiny new toy hype surrounding Heriberto Hernandez but he is not anywhere near Paredes right now.  Paredes will hit the bigs this year even in a shortened season.

  17. On 3/28/2020 at 12:29 PM, bigbossman said:

    @brockpapersizer @FouLLine @TheTruth024 @Coach George @Tryptamine @ST. STEVEN @ChicksDigTheOPS @hailfire4  

    Hi fellas, if you have any input on the above would be grateful..


    Also available:

    Alex Canario


    I'm about to trade Lux, Puk and Riley to acquire Bieber and can add two prospects to replace Lux and Puk...I've already penciled in Alex Manoah to replace Puk and am looking to add a bat to replace Lux.


    Any suggestions appreciated, thx!


    I'm probably late to answer this but honestly it all really depends on league settings.  I personally am super high on Lux.  Puk could skyrocket back up the charts once he's healthy and back on track.  Is Riley, Riley Green?  If so I'd rather just keep the youth personally.  Especially with the season being shortened.

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  18. 21 minutes ago, tonycpsu said:

    "Per 100,000 people..."

    🙄 🤦‍♂️


    Ahh my mistake I missed that.  


    So let me change my number 4.


    4.  It should be tracking overall hospitalization rate and we should be watching that number grow towards our hospitals capacity.  Once it breaks through that point that's when the death rate starts to climb back up. 

  19. Just now, tonycpsu said:


    Not true.  A few things to consider.


    1.  America has taken this much more serious than Italy did.  I heard they gave out over 200,000 citations.

    2.  America has better hospitals and lesser population density.  So our spread will subside more from social distancing than Italy's and it will take longer for our hospitals to be at capacity.

    3.  Italy's death rate is currently 9.5% compared to America's being at 1.2%

    4.  Obviously for this chart to be a more accurate measurement it should be done on a per capita basis which it is not. 


    source I've been using:

  20. 2 minutes ago, The Big Bat Theory said:

    Mainstream media are mainstream because they are rational and reporting the facts unlike all these conspiracy sites on the internet.  And no people were very VERY late reacting to this and clusters will be breaking out anew during the next month plus because of this.  All it takes in a tiny percent of the population to think this is nothing but a hoax or it doesn't effect me cause I'm young and I want to par-tee or that it is all over because two weeks are up that someone just made up as a date or just basically clueless period to keep this stuff going.  We have no draconian military checkpoints and such to do a real lock down so the disease will keep on getting new life from these idiots.


    I will say the mainstream media never called it a hoax but they keep claiming we are right behind Italy and that's just fear mongering.  Which maybe it is helping people take it even more serious or make people think twice about breaking the shelter in place. 


    Now Trump and The GOP called it a hoax for nearly 2 months.  It's almost poetic justice when a bunch of the people at CPAC were making fun of the virus calling it a hoax ended up getting it.

  21. 6 minutes ago, The Big Bat Theory said:

    And you don't think people over here are not self-medicating?  It is totally irresponsible for someone to say that so and so drug seems to work with no scientific evidence to back it up then tons of ignorant people hear this and run off scoring this and that "miracle med" that isn't and probably doing major damage to themselves in the process.  Nigeria just has more access to anti-malaria drugs because malaria is a major problem there.  But believe me their are "pushers" out there right now in this country selling this stuff to the totally naive among us.  Or other stuff they pass on saying it is this stuff as well.


    Doctors should be explaining the risks.  Is this stuff over the counter in Nigeria? 


    Also Hydroxychloroquine is less toxic than chloroquine.  Clinical trials start in NY tomorrow so we will soon start getting some real data.


    Keep in mind desperate times call for desperate measures.  This is a clinical trial that was not FDA approved to streamline it in a clear time of crisis. 

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  22. 58 minutes ago, The Big Bat Theory said:

    The messaging and the hearing and following the message are two different things.  And even now in some parts of the country like say Texas where they are doing next to nothing. 

    Also see break, spring.  Only today (Monday) are most beaches in Florida closing because apparently it was far more important to sell booze to the college kids and rake in those last few dollars from those sales this weekend than end their partying early.  And those kids are the perfect transmitters for the virus as they will for the most part show little signs of being sick as they spread the virus all over the country now starting up brand new mini-clusters that will grow bigger all over the place now.


    The Florida Beaches were bad.  But honestly the rest of the country as a whole I feel has taken this very seriously.  Americans had the benefit of seeing what was happening in Italy before it happened here.


    Like said earlier in here this next week is critical data to project this going forward.  I for one am very curious as to how much the deaths go up today compared to yesterday.  But there are a lot of positive things happening in America right now to combat covid-19.


    Tomorrow there are clinical trials starting for Chloroquine (originally used to treat malaria) & Hydroxychloroquine (a less toxic deriviatie of chloroquine).  Both are hopeful to help alleviate symptoms making less people need to be hospitalized (depending on how effective they are).  Also I've heard experts saying that there is hope Hydroxychloroquine can make covid-19 less efficient at transmission (not to be confused with a cure or vaccine).


    GM, Haines, and other big companies are offering to start manufacturing needed PPE (personal protective equipment) for hospitals.  States are converting hotels that obviously aren't getting much business into temporary hospitals for covid-19 patients.  Many states are doing very well with the drive thru testing.  


    I don't want to say that the worst part is behind us just yet but I think we are doing a lot better than the fear mongering mainstream media is making it sound like.


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