FouLLine

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  1. One cool thing I would like to point out is that William Powell will be going up against the guy he backed up in college Daniel Thomas. Both look to have increased workloads this week. Powell will have his work cut out for him as Miami is 2nd in the NFL in rush yards per attempt against at 2.5.
  2. So basically you hate when people use logical thought. Arian is an elite top RB, does Powell even have a carry? We all know Arian came out of nowhere... but its not like there is even a RB like that every year. Spiller(hurt/timeshare), Andre Brown(a backup), and Morris(Shanny) are not on that level of value (imo the biggest value surprises at RB). I can see LeShoure being the biggest suprise by year end but even he'll have to fend off Best and probably won't be elite anyway. It is true that the chances Powell becomes Arian are not good, so why be surprised/effected by the opinion of those you call "naysayers". You may be misjudging them, I don't see any reason to have 11 pages for a player without a snap, and my fantasy time is limited. Well obviously Spiller was drafted in all competitive leagues. Andre Brown was drafted in 1 of my 3 leagues and picked up quickly in the other 2. So yes he has a chance to be a big time pick up. LeShore was drafted in all 3 of my drafts. Granted I am from Illinois so the guys in my league all know very well about LeShore. Hell half of my one 12 team league went to the game at Wrigley Field where he broke the Big 10 rushing record against NU. But here's the thing. Here's the exact quote How does that translate to this guy has to be the next Arian Foster. He COULD be one of those undrafted gems (SIMILAR to Arian Foster). Yet haters who have nothing to contribute to this thread come in and say his situation is nothing like Arian Foster yet they actually have quite a few things in common. You can't get excited about a player without getting flammed for it. Just look at the Zuerlein thread. So many people are having fun with it, yet you have a few negative jerks coming in there with nothing to contribute other than negativity and naysaying. Yes he's a kicker so what, why are you so prejudiced against kickers? Again if you don't agree with me fine, but let's here why. Let's see some evidence to why you believe what you believe. Because you never see me post YOU'RE WRONG!! then have no reason for saying why I think differently. Comparing a player to another player doesn't mean I think he will produce like that player. It just means Foster at one point in his career was in a similar situation and look where he elevated his game to. Here is a statement you can flame me for. I could see William Powell being a top 8 RB from here on out if he gets the RB1 status. He has that type of big play making ability. I enjoy gambling on upside and I will take my chances. Also I don't see what the amount of pages a player has, has anything to do with.... anything? Read the recent pages, look him up yourself and make your own opinion. It's not hard. You even posting in here is counter productive of your last statement.
  3. I don't take anything personal. I just said it's annoying when naysayers come in here with no facts or reasoning. It's easy to say he won't be anything like Arian Foster if people thought he would be they would have drafted him in the first round. I was just making the comparison. We will see what happens. Right now if I had to put money on pick up of the year I'd bet on William Powell... And judging by the majority opinion in here I would think I would get great odds on my money.
  4. I see a guy that danced in a hole, failed to follow his blocks, and bounced outside. Usually not a successful move. I don't think we watched the same video. I have to go with Chardo. This run is for 2 yard loss regular season unless vs the Saints. I'm not so sure about that. Powell wasn't even touched at the line by a defender at the line. He bounced it out so quick and at the a great time. That is what the best RBs do. I could agree with you had he broken a weak tackle by some defender off the practice team. But there was a stalemate at the line of scrimmage, he recognized it, bounced it outside and up the sideline. Watch a Barry Sander's highlight reel. Better yet watch a Barry Sanders game or even Reggie Bush in college. Their best runs weren't runs by design. They were the ones where they improvised and got the edge where pure speed in space took over. Sanders would go for no gain, -1 yard, bust one for 45. Forte is very similar as well.
  5. This is my entire point. Either he's an awesome pick up and it's a big win or you drop him for someone else. You can't really lose.
  6. I've posted 12 times in the past 2 hours because I'm off early and doing fantasy football research. That has nothing to do with anything. I could care less if you agree with me or not. But I'm not going to let you tell me I'm wrong or can't compare him to Arian Foster (which you can go back and see the many times I spelled it correctly, when you type well over 100 words a min a minor typo is not a big deal) when you have no basis of an argument. It is just especially annoying when people just assume their opinion instead of know it or research it. Know what you're saying before you say it, don't just come at me popping off to be argumentitive. I made a statement you guys took it out of context and flamed me for it. Of course I'm going to defend what I've said. It's the Kris Medlen thread all over again.
  7. Okay this did make me burst out with laughter lol.
  8. I'm trying to find one but can't either... Powell could be a special breed, the first of his kind!! I just can't believe the guy has 4 TDs in 23 carries and can't warrant more carries? I'm going to look deeper into this, I'm thinking he probably didn't even play the first half of the season? From his sophomore-senior year at arkansas, Peyton Hillis only had 140 carries, behind felix jones and darren mcfadden. So for those 3 years, Hillis had only 10% of the carries in that backfield. Looks like William Powell had a similar situation with Daniel Thomas and Thomas sucks, while DMC is arguably one of the best RBs in football and Jones was explosive, too bad Jones couldn't take a hit. so to use your comparison to Hillis coming out of college doesn't really work. and its not like Hillis is some world beater in the nfl either. he won me a championship 2 years ago and I'm sure he did the same for many others.. that's what this thread is all about isn't it??? That is exactly what this forum is about. It's just so annoying when people tell you, you can't compare these two players!! For whatever personal fan boy reasoning they have. What if you were comparing how different they were? Or what if you were comparing how much comparing player X to player Y would piss of random troll in a fantasy message forum? I mean there are many ways to compare someone on, let alone when you comparing similarities.
  9. Here's the last RB taken in the 2nd round this year. LaMichael James http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/lamichael-james-1.html All the 3rd round RBs. Ronnie Hillman http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/ronnie-hillman-1.html Brenard Pierce http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/bernard-pierce-1.html RBs drafted in the 7th round (final round). Michael Smith http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/michael-smith-6.html Bryce Brown http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/bryce-brown-1.html Edwin Baker http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/edwin-baker-1.html (the definition of should have come out a year earlier) Daryl Richardson you find his stats and let me know. Needless to say. He wouldn't have gone in the 3rd round. Maybe a 7th round draft pick. Foster has been a better NFL rusher than a college rusher. He did it by sticking it out and continuing to work hard. Not because he was this blow them away type talent out of college.
  10. Honestly how do you compare players that is so great? Who would you compare him to? I mean every player has something in common with many other players, therefore by your logic they would be weak comparisons. Cause undrafted players just lead the preseason in rushing all the time. You act like leading the NFL in rushing in the preseason is a negative thing. I understand "take it with a grain of salt" but you can't hold that against someone. I mean what more do you want? Here are so more similarities. Arain Foster had to make the team his rookie year. He was released but signed to the practice squad. Despite being unknown he continued to work hard. He wasn't on the active roster to start the season. He all of a sudden went off in the final two weeks of the season his rookie year and then become the best fantasy RB. Okay the similarities stop after "He wasn't on the active roster". With all due respect, his name is AR-IA-N Foster, not AR-AI-N Foster. I thought it was a typo before, but that's the 2nd post where you've identified him as Arain Foster. I think the point that some of us are trying to make is that by comparing Powell to Foster, there is an inherent over-hyping that occurs whether you intended it or not, precisely because there are MANY MANY other undrafted running backs who have fantasy relevance that make for a better comparison. The only reason people point to Arian Foster rather than Jackie Battle is to create excitement about this oh-so-seductive possibility that you could pick up a guy from waivers and have him turn out to be the #1 RB in all of fantasy. But again, bear in mind that Foster's breakout season came in a year when he was drafted, certainly late in many rounds. But he didn't have this huge season during the first year he got playing time, which was late in the season BEFORE his breakout year. Yes I will give you that William Powell's rookie season is looking very similar to Foster's 2nd year. But technically this could be Powell's 2nd year as he was done with college in 2010. I don't know what he did if he was just a practice squad player last year or what. But either way the compassion still stands. But feel free to continue to shoot me down for having my own opinion. It's funny seeing people get worked up over nothing. YOU CAN'T COMPARE THIS GUY TO ARIAN FOSTER!! THAT IS JUST NOT RIGHT!! I DON'T CARE HOW LONG YOUR LIST OF SIMILARITIES IS, IT JUST CAN'T BE!! THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER RB TO BREAKOUT LIKE THAT!! IT IS JUST IMPOSSIBLE!! that is the one side. Then there's me saying. Hey guys, there's a chance this kid could be a really damn good pick up right now. Remember when Arian Foster (another undrafted RB) lead the preseason in rushing? It could be similar to something like that if the guy gets a chance to carry the ball. Well hell it looks like he's going to touch the rock a little bit now doesn't it?
  11. Just more evidence that you are clearly grasping at anything. Haha, great points. You really brought the facts to the table. I know how to spell but sure I guess anything to prove your point for you?
  12. I love how you guys talk about this like you know this for a fact. As if you heard it out of Mel Kiper's mouth during the 2009 draft. Arian Foster did not have great college numbers. He was an average RB his entire college career that got injured his senior season. He was averaging 4.4 yards a carry his senior season with only 1 TD in 131 carries. No that doesn't scream draft me. Hell that doesn't even say draft me. No team's logic on Foster was, "Okay boys we are going to have to pass on Arian Foster this draft simply because he got injured as a senior and some guys on rotoworld message forums a few years from now will claim that he is what they call 'uncoachable'." That was never uttered in a draft room. Sorry to say it guys, Foster just continued to improve. He wasn't some college stud that teams were really looking at. Hell William Powell's senior year: 253 yards 4 TDs on 23 carries. Arian Foster's senior year: 570 yards 1 TD on 131 carries. Plus Powell returned a kick for a TD. I'd say that Powell was pretty effective his senior year.
  13. Honestly how do you compare players that is so great? Who would you compare him to? I mean every player has something in common with many other players, therefore by your logic they would be weak comparisons. Cause undrafted players just lead the preseason in rushing all the time. You act like leading the NFL in rushing in the preseason is a negative thing. I understand "take it with a grain of salt" but you can't hold that against someone. I mean what more do you want? Here are so more similarities. Arain Foster had to make the team his rookie year. He was released but signed to the practice squad. Despite being unknown he continued to work hard. He wasn't on the active roster to start the season. He all of a sudden went off in the final two weeks of the season his rookie year and then become the best fantasy RB. Okay the similarities stop after "He wasn't on the active roster".
  14. Powell also got injured in his final year in college http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2010/12/16/a-few-minutes-with-william-powell/ So chalk up another similarity. Your whole argument that they aren't similar is as weak as it gets. To sum up your argument "A lot of players have a lot of similarities with a lot of other players therefore they cannot be considered similar." That is what you are saying. Doesn't sound all that intelligent when you break it down, does it? When was the last time an undrafted RB lead the preseason in rushing? I'm not exactly positive but my memory leads me to Arian Foster. You can do the research to prove me wrong, by all means I welcome it because I honestly don't feel like looking into it right now. Okay so far the standings say The Cardinals are the best team in the NFC West. Strength of schedule also confirms this. As well as point differential. Sure long season anything can happen but right now you can't ignore what The Cardinals have done so far. Being a Superbowl contender has nothing to do with fantasy hell being a good team has little to do with the success of a running back ask MJD or AP. Hell McCoy had a great year last year despite The Eagles being 8-8. So needless to say whatever point you were trying to prove with those statements is clearly going to work for The Cardinals right now as well. You are clearly getting mad for no reason and just arguing for the sake of arguing. It's clear by the lack of relevant points you bring compared to how much irrelevancy you have brought to your side of the argument that you are more caught up in being "right" than with what is right. What is right is that William Powell has a chance to be an insanely good player at an insanely low cost. His situation is similar to Arain Foster who exponentially increased his value. Powell has a chance to do something similar. Don't get confused and think I'm saying Powell will become the clear cut #1 fantasy RB, but Powell could easily become the pick up of the year. Which let's face it this year there hasn't been many good pick ups so far.
  15. Stop being argumentitve for no reason. Where did I steer this hype train out of control? With my comment that you can pick him up free of waiver priority at the risk of your worst player? LOL That is the bare minimum cost to roster a player. You fail to understand upside and value. I'm all for being told I'm wrong, but please bring some facts or value arguments not just Kendall Hunter clearly has more upside. Also I never once said drop any guy on that list for William Powell. I'm saying drop your 2nd DST for whatever reason you have them rostered. Or drop that guy that will never sniff your starting lineup. Yeah those guys are on your team. Like I said before if your worst player is a guy off of Wombat's list then you are the luckiest fantasy football player in the world and should waltz into first place and your luck should carry you through the playoffs as well.
  16. Actually the two situations have a lot in common. I listed the common factors. One common factor implies you can't say they have nothing in common. Sure you're right about Arain Foster was a lot closer to RB1 duties than William Powell was. But you can't say they have nothing in common, especially not after we have already gone over this. 1. They both went undrafted. 2. Neither was the starting RB1. 3. They both lead the preseason in rushing. 4. They both had extremely high yards per rush in preseason. Again you are getting upside confused with floor or realistic expectation. Kendall Hunter had 16 TDs on 271 carries at football power house Oklahoma State. If he has so much more upside than William Powell, how come William Powell ran for 4 TDs in only 23 touches?? Sure small sample size, but the TD per touch average is so insanely high that it can't be ignored. Upside is a lot more about averages than it is total gross numbers. The guy with the higher yards per run and TDs per carry you figure will out produce the guy with the higher gross numbers if given equal opportunities. That is how "upside" works.
  17. Just watch the guy's moves. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap2000000048664/William-Powell-67-yard-run
  18. Let's just say hypothetically if all of these players were given RB1 status. William Powell has shown the most big play ability. The more big play making ability a player has the more upside they have. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap2000000051754/Powell-9-yard-TD-run He breaks a tackle on a cut back and scampers into the end zone untouched. I don't care if he's going against the '85 Bears, those moves are insane. That cut back doesn't change much against many first string NFL defenses. The announcer even says, "That kid has something, he has the X factor."
  19. I'm trying to find one but can't either... Powell could be a special breed, the first of his kind!! I just can't believe the guy has 4 TDs in 23 carries and can't warrant more carries? I'm going to look deeper into this, I'm thinking he probably didn't even play the first half of the season? That would be pretty cool if he did. But it would be a pretty big longshot. But for those who like to gamble on RB injuries and stash backups he is a nice speculative add. I would pretty much leave it at that though. Exactly. Basically drop your first drop to pick up Powell, if he doesn't do anything this week you could always drop him for whoever you need to pick up anyway. It's a long shot, but it also comes at minimal risk. If you are afraid to drop the worst player on your team for a guy with this much upside, you are just shooting yourself in the foot, in my opinion. I think you need to qualify the last sentence there. The two worst players on my team are, I guess, Kenny Britt and Donald Brown (12-team league). I had a lucky draft by waiting on a QB (RGIII) and TE (Bennett) and getting lucky with some other later picks (Cedric Benson and CJ Spiller). I don't think I'm shooting myself in the foot by not dropping Britt or Brown for Powell. I guess if I really believed in Powell, I could drop Brown for him, but I think THAT would be shooting myself in the foot by dropping a starter for a speculative backupl Sure this all depends on your team. But 99% of the teams out there have a player who they are eventually going to drop. If you don't have a player who you are eventually going to drop then you should easily win your league and be deemed the luckiest fantasy football player in the world. No I'm not taking future injuries into consideration on this either. But let's be honest. If your worst two palyers are Kenny Britt and Donald Brown then your team has to be stacked (10 teamer as well?). Just seems a bit weird that your bottom two players are owened in 77% and 78% of Yahoo! leagues. What makes this even more strange is that I own both of these guys in 2 of my 3 leagues and I clearly drafted them both around the 9th - 10th rounds... I would also suspect that it is extremely likely you are currently rostering 2 DSTs?... Possibly even 2 kickers? Otherwise your 10 team league uses a much smaller than standard roster size.
  20. What do you think was the main evidence of Arain Foster breaking out a few years ago? He dominated in preseason. He wasn't the clear cut starter over Steve Slaton until right before the season started. But people were taking chances on him in fantasy drafts somewhere around the 5th - 6th rounds hoping he would win the job. I'm not saying what you are saying is wrong. Yes leading the preseason in rushing should be taken with a grain of salt (I never said go draft William Powell) but leading in the league in rushing in the preseason can't hurt your chances. Especially when your average was around 6 yards per carry. 1 huge difference is foster was actually in the discussion to start the season as the RB1 for HOU throughout the the preseason. Powell meanwhile was behind the entire battery of RBs in ARI. so it isn't quite the samething The fact that it isn't quite the same thing is made obvious by the fact that we are talking about picking the guy up as a lottery ticket in week 4. No one said draft the guy in the 5th round. Powell is closer to consistent touches than you think. Stephen-Howling is not practicing right now, dealing with a groin injury. So it doesn't make sense to rush him back to be the RB2 when you have all this depth. Alfonso Smith didn't do much last year, so why wouldn't you give the new guy who you kept on the roster a chance over the guy who was on the team last year but didn't do much? Especially after what he showed in preseason. ARZ could have out right cut William Powell. The only reason they didn't is because they know he has tremendous upside. It's kind of like how The Patriots rostered Tom Brady back in the day. Yes I am aware it's not the same exact thing but similar logic.
  21. Sure this is a nice list. But you are failing to acknowledge the fact that these guys are all pretty much owned. Any competitive 12 team league just about all of these guys are rostered if not all. That being said, none of these guys has the upside William Powell has. So while you are coming in here with your "counter argument" you aren't actually realizing that William Powell can be had free of waiver priority at the expense of your worst player right now. That is as cheap as a "lottery ticket" comes. Sure Powell's floor is a bit a ways from those guys, but his ceiling is much higher.
  22. I'm trying to find one but can't either... Powell could be a special breed, the first of his kind!! I just can't believe the guy has 4 TDs in 23 carries and can't warrant more carries? I'm going to look deeper into this, I'm thinking he probably didn't even play the first half of the season? That would be pretty cool if he did. But it would be a pretty big longshot. But for those who like to gamble on RB injuries and stash backups he is a nice speculative add. I would pretty much leave it at that though. Exactly. Basically drop your first drop to pick up Powell, if he doesn't do anything this week you could always drop him for whoever you need to pick up anyway. It's a long shot, but it also comes at minimal risk. If you are afraid to drop the worst player on your team for a guy with this much upside, you are just shooting yourself in the foot, in my opinion.
  23. I'm trying to find one but can't either... Powell could be a special breed, the first of his kind!! I just can't believe the guy has 4 TDs in 23 carries and can't warrant more carries? I'm going to look deeper into this, I'm thinking he probably didn't even play the first half of the season? So it looks like Powell played to start the season as the #2 RB. But got hurt after 9 games. I'll be back with an update.
  24. I'm trying to find one but can't either... Powell could be a special breed, the first of his kind!! I just can't believe the guy has 4 TDs in 23 carries and can't warrant more carries? I'm going to look deeper into this, I'm thinking he probably didn't even play the first half of the season?
  25. What do you think was the main evidence of Arain Foster breaking out a few years ago? He dominated in preseason. He wasn't the clear cut starter over Steve Slaton until right before the season started. But people were taking chances on him in fantasy drafts somewhere around the 5th - 6th rounds hoping he would win the job. I'm not saying what you are saying is wrong. Yes leading the preseason in rushing should be taken with a grain of salt (I never said go draft William Powell) but leading in the league in rushing in the preseason can't hurt your chances. Especially when your average was around 6 yards per carry.