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  1. Dude, are you daft? How do you compare Curry, Thompson, Kawhi to this kid. Those guys you've just mentioned were lottery picks. Notice I always mention the word undrafted for this journeyman. Are these guys undrafted? Are these guys journeymen? Curry and Thompson were kept by GSW because they're damn good. Pop loved Kawhi so much but Kawhi just wanted out and won a chip in TOR and finally got to choose where he wanted to be in hometown LAC. Does Wood have all these luxuries? IS Wood on the same career trajectory? Wasn't Wood just waived and not signed by 5 teams because he probably isn't worth keeping, even as the 12th man cheerleader? LOL this argument being called weak makes me laugh so much. What's weak is you comparing this guy's situation to those future hall of famers lol. My god I haven't seen someone preach so much about undrafted people as much as you do. Go check out the Nunn thread. This guy misleads people so much and overrates undrafted players too much, and always makes this lengthy speech as if to sound like he's coach of the year, what should be done blah blah. I don't know, he must really like these undrafted guys. He likes those underdog stories and prays they somehow get the touches they deserve because of all the stats research he does, but ignores what's going on in reality. He also recommended Chriss as a pickup here early in the season, which probably shows his inexperience in fantasy because we all know how volatile owning guys like Chriss are. Yes, stats are stats, but your stats are what i like to call "wishful stats". Sure if he gets unleashed then it may happen, but stop trying to preach here as if we're stashing Steph Curry over here (#1 option on the team, and will surely be given minutes). This guy has been tossed around for a reason dude. Are you better than those 5 teams, who for sure viewed your per36, blah blah. You tend to overrate people much more than what they're actually worth. One watch at a DET game and you'll see he isn't really anything special, and probably deserves 20 mins, but not more than that. Man I really didn't want to respond in this manner but the last straw is calling what I've said a weak argument lol. As if yours is so damn strong. You're defending an undrafted journeyman, who 5 teams passed on and is the last roster spot in Detroit (almost didn't make the cut, squeaked by over Joe Johnson lol). Wow. And you're preaching as if it's prime Shaq we're stashing lol. Dude couldn't even do anything significant in his past 3 games with 20+ minutes, coach plays other people over him, and you're acting as if he's the Savior of fantasy. Friendly tip: stop analyzing stats, watch some games now and then. Maybe you'll realize why those per36 mean crap, because he just doesn't pass the eye test, like a John Collins for example (early in his Hawks career, with fluctuating mins), who deserve to be stashed. Plus, not just his coach, but NBA teams see something not worth keeping in him (unlike Curry, Thompson, Kawhi who I still find it hilarious you mention). I'm not dissing Wood at all, he probably deserves those 20 mins. But for you to play coach and think you know better than Casey and all those other coaches he had, that they're wrong, oh boy, you really think too high of yourself. Man, I still can't believe we're talking about this journeyman as if we're talking about an all-star stash LOL. Wow, man, just WOW.
  2. I haven't watched too many Detroit games, but from what I've seen, I'm not really impressed. He just doesn't pass the eye test as someone that deserves stashing this badly. I can understand if he was a lottery pick (like Troy Brown), who deserves to be developed no matter what, but this guy has been a journeyman, in the most literal sense of the word. Undrafted, 5 teams passed on him, and he barely made the cut here in Detroit. The final guy on the roster. Don't get me wrong, I think he'll still get 20 mins, should Drummond get traded, and Griffin shutdown, but that's more because they need bodies to fill in that void. I honestly think they're better off seeing what they have in lottery pick Dembouya at this point, and playing the heck out of him. He had a decent game last night, and why not see if he can build off that. I'm probably stashing Dembouya definitely over this guy. Wood can't even get decent minutes over the likes of Morris and Maker (when Griff was down, for a point this season), so whether that's bad coaching, or the coach sees something we don't, i honestly don't care. We should take the emotion out of it, and base everything on what we see in front of us, not what we would do if we were coaching. I honestly think that's why Casey gave Maker burn at the start of the season (just to see what he had in a lottery pick player). So we shouldn't blame him really if he played him more minutes than some undrafted journeyman who 5 NBA teams passed on, and barely made the cut in yours. Anyway common sense dictates, play the lottery pick already as we're winding down to tank mode when Drummond leaves. I honestly don't think even other NBA teams would covet Wood anyway, if they fail to develop him within his 2 yrs in Detroit. Those per 36 have always been there, and the NBA teams obviously deem him not worthy of a roster spot, otherwise he wouldn't even be in cluster-big Detroit and be a rotational guy in some bad team like Charlotte or something. I honestly think Detroit has finally showed openness regarding trading Drummond now, because of what they just saw in Dembouya. This reminds me of the Cavs suddenly trading Clarkson, because they saw Porter Jr.s breakout games. This situation reminds me of Marquese Chriss so much. The guy also has monster per 36, is very young, and you would think NBA teams would spend time to actually develop him as he's a high lottery pick. But no, he became a journeyman, and even with a bunch of injuries in Golden State, his minutes are still in check. Are we going to blame Kerr like we blame Casey? My point is, these teams see something we obviously don't. Anyway, I'm not a fan of Casey either, but it is what it is. I guess Wood will forever be resigned as and end of bench guy in the NBA. He's not getting any younger, and after the next year (say he still doesn't get unleashed by Casey), sure he may wind up on another team, but I don't really see them suddenly starting him or playing him meaningful (over 20+) minutes. We can play coach all we want, but these NBA teams obviously saw something we don't.
  3. I think they give the starting SF spot to lottery pick Troy Brown, but who knows at this point. It’s anyone’s guess what Brooks’ rotations are these days.
  4. You guys are like little girls whining over nothing jesus lol. He'll be fine. Miami is always a tough matchup for any team. They're coached well and play good D. Payton will still get his even with Beal back for sure. There are numerous pathways for minutes. The most obvious one is that this team is going nowhere, and I can see them limiting Ish and IT's minutes come all-star break. Then these kids will feast, in time for fantasy playoffs.
  5. Stats don’t lie. He was the g league steals leader at a whopping 3.2, and putting up crazy lines. For sure he’d at least produce decently if you give him the opportunity on this terrible Wiz team. He’s the only bright spot on the court (him and Troy Brown) lately really. Even Beal was trying hard to lose games and leads compared to this guy, the 3 games Payton has played. I honestly thinks there’s ROS value here. I don’t see how Brooks can take this guy off the floor and not develop him compared to guys like IT and Ish Smith, especially since they’re not going to reach the playoffs this year anyway, with all these injuries. Added him since his first game, and don’t plan on looking back.
  6. I don’t know about starting either because hell even Meyers Leonard starts but plays only miniscule minutes when Heat are fully healthy. All i know is Winslow is a lock for 30+ minutes. And DJJ probably is lucky to sniff 20. And his usage will go down extremely, which will decrease his value. Especially if he and Winslow stay on the court together in the 2nd unit together with Dragic (he was also not starting in that vid against Toronto i just posted before this, and winslow played 34 mins). Basically winslow is secondary playmaker with Dragic and both have the ball in their hands quite often. They will close together with Jimmy too. My only point is DJJ will be close to irrelevant when Winslow is 100%. Gameflow or not. Winslow is a huge usage sapper. This yr he’s been attempting 12.7 shots a game. It’s no wonder DJJ suddenly became relevant when Winslow was down. He’ll be part of the guys that get tinkered around by Spo often, because as ive said, Winslow being there, makes him a redundancy now. Winslow is averaging 33 minutes a game this yr, and i don’t see that changing anytime soon, once any minute restrictions are lifted/he’s 100%.
  7. So are you saying Winslow won’t close? Are you saying DJJ gets same or more mins or what? I’m not sure im getting your point. Anyway if you are, I think you’re misjudging how much Spo loves Winslow. He always gushes about him in interviews and it shows with the minutes he gives him as well. Check that vid out. This is before he got injured recently. Take note DJJ was also in this game and played quite a bit. He’s even in this vid. Now check the 4th quarter closing lineup and the entire OT. He basically was the secondary playmaker next to Jimmy. Basically Winslow has more playmaking tools than DJJ, that’s why Spo prefers him. He also can switch any position, and play good d, which makes DJJ a redundancy. He even blocked Ibaka this game. Anyway, i’m pretty sure him coming back will make DJJ close to irrelevant. You can quote back at me if it doesn’t happen, and ill be happy to say im wrong, but im pretty sure it will, because minutes are tough to come by with this very deep miami team. Winslow has always been a Spo fav, and always gets heavy minutes when he plays and is 100% healthy. Fwiw, I watch a lot of Miami games and study their rotations very meticulously, as i own Jimmy B, and own Bam in another league.
  8. Yeah, in my opinion, Justise takes most of DJJ’s minutes and some of Nunn’s already dwindling minutes. He likes Winslow so much, along with Dragic. Basically almost all of DJJ and Nunn’s value will get sapped out with everyone healthy imo. He’ll probably close out with Butler, Dragic, Winslow, Bam, and 1 of either Robinson, Herro or Nunn (whoever is hot that day). DJJ and Winslow are basically used the same way by Spo (can switch multiple positions on defense), so I think DJJ gets affected the most.
  9. https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wizards/gary-payton-ii-helps-save-the-day-for-the-wizards-against-the-knicks/2019/12/23/33f1a33c-25b7-11ea-ad73-2fd294520e97_story.html Interesting read from the Washington Post. Basically, Beal holds him in high regard, along with especially Troy Brown Jr. Troy Brown Jr and Payton apparently play together during the summer and grew up together. Said it made it easier to vibe on the court. Also, this guy played on such short-notice and played jet-lagged (flew from vegas to washington for his physical, then hopped on a train to New York). Had like an hour to study defensive schemes and plays. Imagine what he’d be like with a full practice in. This is a sure fire speculative add/lotto ticket. He’s the g-league steals leader at 3.2. Guess he got his dad’s defensive prowess. I don’t think IT or Ish are setting the world on fire and are long-term solutions for the losing Wiz. May as well ride the kid till the wheels fall off.
  10. I added him. One of the few games Wiz have won and he was a part of it. We never know with this team. I didn’t think Mo Wagner or Davis Bertans would even have value here to start the season, but here we are. Same for IT. If they ever fully embrace the youth movement in the second half and just not play IT or Ish, he benefits. They should just stick with him and Troy Brown imo. Payton is a g-league beast and deserves at least a decent look to see if he can carry it over to the nba.
  11. I honestly think Exum benefits the most here.. sorry, im too lazy to search for his thread. But yeah, i dont see much difference regarding Clarkson. He came from a bad team, and didn’t really set the world on fire being a super sub. Those numbers for sure go down with a good team with good players like the Jazz.
  12. The fact that he overplays and gives a ton of minutes to veterans like Isaiah Thomas, Ish Smith, etc, over prioritizing player development of guys like lottery pick Troy Brown Jr, Schofield, etc is clearly an obvious sign they’re not tanking. Wall will play this season for sure. Just a matter of when he’s fully healthy.